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Bunch of snobby, condescending intellectuals looking down their noses at the men and women from all races who protect this country.
 
At the time of the interview, she had 6 days to retirement.....

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Wow, she’s going to get fired just a few days before retirement. That’s gotta hurt.

I wonder what kind of job she’ll get now to makeup for her lost retirement funds. I suspect she may be working alongside some of these “punks.”
 
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No I'm a sane person who understands prosecutorial overreach and a bunch of testosterone roid jobbed uneducated cops who roll into a black neighborhood near midnight looking to empty their guns and then come up with a plausible explanation why they executed an innocent American citizen.
I say this with love and friendship...you need to find a hobby or something else to do with your time and energy.
 
Wow, she’s going to get fired just a few days before retirement. That’s gotta hurt.

I wonder what kind of job she’ll get now to makeup for her lost retirement funds. I suspect she may be working alongside some of these “punks.”

I’m pretty sure her pension is not in jeopardy; it belongs to her even if terminated.
 
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She's right. Look at the trash that has been arrested. Between piercings and hair colors, most of them can't really even be called human at this point. I'm sure some of these protesters have done some good at some point in their life. Not many of them of course, and this is not he best moment for any of them.
trumpbaggers could be considered sub-human. Why else would they support him?
 
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She's right. Look at the trash that has been arrested. Between piercings and hair colors, most of them can't really even be called human at this point. I'm sure some of these protesters have done some good at some point in their life. Not many of them of course, and this is not he best moment for any of them.
Good people on both sides?
 
Socialism seems to be a trigger word for some these days.

Tell me. Were you publicly educated? Do you drive on state and county roads. Do you fly out of major airports? Is your bank account protected by FICA?, etc...etc...etc...
They will never understand this. Somebody will talk about "agreed upon...good for citizens...blah blah blah" , when it's easier to just say "socialist policy". We have lots of them. Then when socialism doesn't scare people enough they switch to communism.

Yet vote for a guy who is a puppet of a former member of the KGB. Good stuff.
 
Uh, I think that is how the Nazis classified the Jews.

Maybe you should try again?

jfc
Maybe you should look at how the Nazis made their rise: protests, riots, vandalism, limiting speech, attempting to defund police, force people to agree with their movement through violence. Hmm, sounds eerily familiar to you and your friends are doing.

jfc
 
Maybe you should look at how the Nazis made their rise: protests, riots, vandalism, limiting speech, attempting to defund police, force people to agree with their movement through violence. Hmm, sounds eerily familiar to you and your friends are doing.

jfc
Sounds eerily like what trump and his cult are doing.
 
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Not true at all, but if it helps add more texture to the image you are trying to create, don't be surprised when you are called out for being wrong.

It is pretty close. You do not need to have graduated high school to become a cop.
 
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It is pretty close. You do not need to have graduated high school to become a cop.

Well, progress, you are admitting your first post was wrong or a lie or both.

To be a cop, you need to be certified by a state law enforcement education system with does require 6 months at least of job specific training (depending on state).

And many departments require a 2 year or even 4 year degree in additional to state certifications, so stop taking the lowest common denominator and pretending it is the average.
 
Well, progress, you are admitting your first post was wrong or a lie or both.

To be a cop, you need to be certified by a state law enforcement education system with does require 6 months at least of job specific training (depending on state).

And many departments require a 2 year or even 4 year degree in additional to state certifications, so stop taking the lowest common denominator and pretending it is the average.

That training is AFTER someone has been already been hired.
Just like someone would have to graduate from McDonald's training.

Most departments are not requiring 2 or 4 year degrees. These are mostly high school and GED grads.
 
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That training is AFTER someone has been already been hired.
Just like someone would have to graduate from McDonald's training.

Most departments are not requiring 2 or 4 year degrees. These are mostly high school and GED grads.

Actually, there is no set standard on when you get the training. Before. After. Your dime. Sponsored. It depends on the department, but completion is a requirement for employment. Don't finish, you don't get the job.

All don't require. @1/3 require. But all value and say it is a desired.

Your statement of "its the same to work at McDonalds" is just wrong. Still.
 
...so stop taking the lowest common denominator and pretending it is the average.
Conversely, stop taking the average and pretending it doesn't include cops from the lowest common denominator.

Without any data to base a conclusion from... I wonder if there's a correlation between the requirements to be a cop in a specific locality, and the number of crimes/excess violence incidents that occur there? Like, where you have to have a 4yr degree, there are fewer "bad cops"?
 
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Maybe you should look at how the Nazis made their rise: protests, riots, vandalism, limiting speech, attempting to defund police, force people to agree with their movement through violence. Hmm, sounds eerily familiar to you and your friends are doing.

jfc

They used that as pretext to eliminate their enemies.
 
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Well, progress, you are admitting your first post was wrong or a lie or both.

To be a cop, you need to be certified by a state law enforcement education system with does require 6 months at least of job specific training (depending on state).

And many departments require a 2 year or even 4 year degree in additional to state certifications, so stop taking the lowest common denominator and pretending it is the average.
Dude you're making me laugh too hard. Thanks for the post! Hahaha good lord. Ever see the Police Academy movies? That has the acme of cop education :)
 
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Conversely, stop taking the average and pretending it doesn't include cops from the lowest common denominator.

Without any data to base a conclusion from... I wonder if there's a correlation between the requirements to be a cop in a specific locality, and the number of crimes/excess violence incidents that occur there? Like, where you have to have a 4yr degree, there are fewer "bad cops"?

The statement was the requirements are the same. Any REQUIREMENTS that exceed bring the average up, there are no depts that bring the average down (less than a GED), therefore the average is above McDonalds and state certification is required. Still a wrong statement. The math still works.

There doesn't seem to be an absolute correlation between education and firearms use, but some studies do indicate. The largest factor seems to be in service training.

However, I bet that after this last year, we will see more studies to critically evaluate the success and risk factors and many departments will start increasing the education requirements. I don't know that it is true, but it sure seems like it is, that higher level of education would lead to less instances of us of deadly force and more appropriate use of force. Id also be shocked that if Biden wins, he doesn't start moving towards a national minimum standards guideline. Which will likely be hard for some of the smaller, more rural departments to comply with, but it should still be a goal and a requirement we move to. I'd also submit that if we had more national guidelines, standards and education, it would allow for more officers to move from department to department without having to start over. This easier ability to be portable would allow for more disruption in many departments to do things new and varied ways. Currently, only the highest level of leadership is portable across state lines. Officers/Deputies/corporals/Lts usually stay where they start. The lack of portability provides for a closed ecosystem that, IMO, doesn't keep a department's staff fresh to help identify and root out problem officers.
 
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Dude you're making me laugh too hard. Thanks for the post! Hahaha good lord. Ever see the Police Academy movies? That has the acme of cop education :)


Oh, then Police Academy movies is your basis for reality? That explains a lot of your posting.
 
These are the Iowa State Patrol minimum requirements:

In order to join the Iowa State Patrol, you must possess the following qualifications:

  • Have a high school diploma or a GED certificate
  • Be a U.S. citizen
  • Possess at least 20/100 vision in each eye without correction
  • Possess normal color vision
  • Possess normal hearing or be able to perform professional duties with hearing aids
  • Be at least 18 years of age before attending the Academy
The academy lasts a whopping 18 weeks. In other words, a junior college degree is tougher:

The DPS Basic Training Academy is conducted at the Camp Dodge military facility located in Johnston, Iowa.


During the eighteen (18) week academy, all training materials, meals, and lodging are furnished at no cost to the recruits. Recruits receive a salary during academy training. Subjects studied during the Academy include such topics as laws of arrest, search and seizure, defensive tactics, arrest techniques, precision driving, firearms, emergency management services, criminal law, physical fitness and motor vehicle law.


The academy runs from 8:00 AM Monday morning until approximately 5:00 PM on Friday afternoon. Recruits are required to stay on complex Monday through Friday but may go home on the weekends.


Upon graduation from the DPS Academy, each officer will complete at least 70 working days of field training for the Iowa State Patrol Trooper 2's who work from various District Offices around the state; 30 working days of field training for the Iowa State Patrol Trooper 1's who work from Post 16 (Capitol Complex in Des Moines); or up to 12 months of field training for the Department's Special Agent positions who work statewide.
 
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These are the Iowa State Patrol minimum requirements:

In order to join the Iowa State Patrol, you must possess the following qualifications:

  • Have a high school diploma or a GED certificate
  • Be a U.S. citizen
  • Possess at least 20/100 vision in each eye without correction
  • Possess normal color vision
  • Possess normal hearing or be able to perform professional duties with hearing aids
  • Be at least 18 years of age before attending the Academy
The academy lasts a whopping 18 weeks. In other words, a junior college degree is tougher:

The DPS Basic Training Academy is conducted at the Camp Dodge military facility located in Johnston, Iowa.


During the eighteen (18) week academy, all training materials, meals, and lodging are furnished at no cost to the recruits. Recruits receive a salary during academy training. Subjects studied during the Academy include such topics as laws of arrest, search and seizure, defensive tactics, arrest techniques, precision driving, firearms, emergency management services, criminal law, physical fitness and motor vehicle law.


The academy runs from 8:00 AM Monday morning until approximately 5:00 PM on Friday afternoon. Recruits are required to stay on complex Monday through Friday but may go home on the weekends.


Upon graduation from the DPS Academy, each officer will complete at least 70 working days of field training for the Iowa State Patrol Trooper 2's who work from various District Offices around the state; 30 working days of field training for the Iowa State Patrol Trooper 1's who work from Post 16 (Capitol Complex in Des Moines); or up to 12 months of field training for the Department's Special Agent positions who work statewide.

Great, so you agree that the requirements to be employed as a cop, are, at minimum, greater than working at McDonalds.

The degree above <both is and what should be> McDonalds is not what is being discussed. Thats a whole different discussion and is very valid.
 
Great, so you agree that the requirements to be employed as a cop, are, at minimum, greater than working at McDonalds.

The degree above <both is and what should be> McDonalds is not what is being discussed. Thats a whole different discussion and is very valid.
It requires a GED. I wouldn't call that a high bar given that a person with a pulse can get out of hs.
 
These are the Iowa State Patrol minimum requirements:

In order to join the Iowa State Patrol, you must possess the following qualifications:

  • Have a high school diploma or a GED certificate
  • Be a U.S. citizen
  • Possess at least 20/100 vision in each eye without correction
  • Possess normal color vision
  • Possess normal hearing or be able to perform professional duties with hearing aids
  • Be at least 18 years of age before attending the Academy
The academy lasts a whopping 18 weeks. In other words, a junior college degree is tougher:

The DPS Basic Training Academy is conducted at the Camp Dodge military facility located in Johnston, Iowa.


During the eighteen (18) week academy, all training materials, meals, and lodging are furnished at no cost to the recruits. Recruits receive a salary during academy training. Subjects studied during the Academy include such topics as laws of arrest, search and seizure, defensive tactics, arrest techniques, precision driving, firearms, emergency management services, criminal law, physical fitness and motor vehicle law.


The academy runs from 8:00 AM Monday morning until approximately 5:00 PM on Friday afternoon. Recruits are required to stay on complex Monday through Friday but may go home on the weekends.


Upon graduation from the DPS Academy, each officer will complete at least 70 working days of field training for the Iowa State Patrol Trooper 2's who work from various District Offices around the state; 30 working days of field training for the Iowa State Patrol Trooper 1's who work from Post 16 (Capitol Complex in Des Moines); or up to 12 months of field training for the Department's Special Agent positions who work statewide.

It took me 10 seconds to find this. It’s from Quora. I just perused it but found some interesting information.



I did find that a study has been done nationally with police in the US. It appears to have been published in 2017.

About one third (30.2 percent) of police officers in the United States have a four-year college degree. A little more than half (51.8 percent) have a two-year degree, while 5.4 percent have a graduate degree.
The author is Christine Gardiner, an associate professor of criminal justice at California State University, Fullerton who received her Ph.D. in criminology, law and society from University of California, Irvine, and her M.Phil. in criminology from Cambridge University. The full piece is at the link. A link to the underlying study is in the full article.


 
It took me 10 seconds to find this. It’s from Quora. I just perused it but found some interesting information.



I did find that a study has been done nationally with police in the US. It appears to have been published in 2017.


The author is Christine Gardiner, an associate professor of criminal justice at California State University, Fullerton who received her Ph.D. in criminology, law and society from University of California, Irvine, and her M.Phil. in criminology from Cambridge University. The full piece is at the link. A link to the underlying study is in the full article.





No no, they are working on a narrative. Don't bring reality into a conversation where the Police Academy movies are being used as evidence.
 
You think that's good?
We're asking people to make life and death decisions, of which a majority couldn't get a four year college degree.
 
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You think that's good?
We're asking people to make life and death decisions, of which a majority couldn't get a four year college degree.


No, not at all, and have said exactly that above. But again, I was showing you that your original statement was wrong. This concept, it should be

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