They are? There is a general consensus that we are, more likely than not, going to experience a second wave?
COVID-19 Cases Growing in 11 States....
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They are? There is a general consensus that we are, more likely than not, going to experience a second wave?
The colleges and schools seem intent on destroying themselves.
Most of what is being destroyed at this point is lefty institutions and cities by fellow lefties. They are in control of education and big cities. They will have to decide when the cure is worse than the disease.
it’s better for the environment if international travel never starts back up. Those that truly care about the environment should not be traveling or boating or anything that burns fossil fuels for pleasure.
From David Bahnsen
- A new research paper (available by request) published by doctors from the Vaccine & Infectious Disease Division of the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle, as well as the Emory University School of Medicine, both of whom are members of the COVID Prevention Network and NIAID Clinical Research Consortium, shedding much light on the extreme unlikelihood of reinfection for those with even extremely minor exposure to the the COVID-19 virus, and more importantly, reinforcing the protective immunity those with prior exposure to certain common cold coronaviruses are suggested to have. Their work supports the belief that memory T-cell protection may be at play for a substantial portion of the population, too, suggesting “40-50 million people in the U.S. may have been already been infected with a detectable serological response to SARS-CoV-2.”
Means jack shot when we have no clue which numbers are accurate, that's all I know
- And then for those wondering how California is doing economically, note the latest report from the Department of Labor on NATIONAL continuing unemployment claims broken down by state. Pretty close to 50% of the nation’s claims in, ummmm, one state. May want to think about accelerated re-opening, Governor.
Nobody does a great job against viruses because viruses don't obey totalitarians. The only question for totalitarians is how many people they are going to exterminate with their authoritarian policies above and beyond those that were already going to die from the virus. Those who have done the best job are those who have killed the fewest with their exploitation of the intellectually defenseless.
I've been told this is not the flu.
You're correct. It is many times MORE infectious than flu.
Do we need to remind you of the R0 numbers on this, absent mitigations, again?
I know I've posted that for you several times now.
None of that relates to my post. Are you suggesting the corona virus behaves like the flu, with the primary distinction being that it is deadlier? Are you saying there is a general consensus that it is seasonal?
Mitigation efforts may effect the timing of infections, but they don't effect the number of infections. Even the badly flawed March report from Imperial College that predicted 2.2 million US COVID deaths included a warning that lockdowns only delayed the spread. In the meantime, substantial life has been lost to the lockdowns themselves, while those who have survived the lockdowns have been subjected to significant economic suffering.
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No, they don't. In fact, they were never even intended to mitigate the number infections. From the very beginning, they were merely intended to "flatten the curve", which if successful only effects the timing of infections. In other words, it is only designed to spread the same number of infections over a longer period of time.
Which means, you have the TIME to get a vaccine out and delivered BEFORE people are exposed.
As well as the TIME to identify existing drugs that might drastically reduce the severity and sequelae associated with the disease.
You can BOTH delay AND reduce infections with mitigations. That they focused on ONE of the two isn't relevant.
6+ months later there is no vaccine, and little or no new treatments that drastically reduce the severity. Meanwhile, the virus continues unabated and the lockdown deaths continue unabated. Except in Sweden where the virus is dying out and there never were any lockdown deaths.
And had we engaged in zero mitigations, we'd have millions more infected and 5x or more dead by now.
No one expected "a vaccine in 6 months".
And we DO have a medication deemed effective: dexamethasone. Reduces deaths by 30% or more. With more promising meds currently being studied. Slowing the spread allows you to finish those studies. Not slowing the spread means it's burned out before you can finish ANY of them.
No, there's absolutely no evidence we'd have any more dead without mitigation efforts. In fact, if anything, eliminating the lockdown deaths would have almost certainly decreased the overall excess death rate being experienced in 2020.
272 currently hospitalized
Approx 1,000 admitted to the hospital over the last 4 weeks
Making shit up?
Personally, I am still waiting on Trump's promise of 0%, but that's just me I guess.
Nope, straight from mouth of Beth Malicki on last night's news. It is possible that number was icu patients which ultimately what matters.
https://knx1070.radio.com/articles/cbs-news/grieving-parents-share-warnings-about-football-seaon
Stephens was a defensive lineman at California University of Pennsylvania, a Division II school that suspended all fall sports competition in July. His mother said Stephens returned to school in part to work out with his teammates.
He died in early September. Although his cause of death has not been disclosed, Stephens' family said he died of a blood clot to the heart after testing positive for COVID-19.
Now, with colleges returning to campus life and NCAA sports underway, Allen said she is worried for other students like Stephens.
"I'm very, very nervous for these young men and women… These kids, their lives are priceless. And it's just not worth it. It's not worth it," she said.
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"Your football player might be following every single rule. They might be dealing with social distancing in the football facility," Auerbach explained. "And then they walk outside of that facility and they're going to be around students who are partying, hanging out, playing video games, going to a cafeteria."
According to Jamain Stephens' father, former Pittsburgh Steelers offensive tackle Jamain Stephens, that is a risk that students and their families need to be wary of.
"Sports give us a release. Right. You know, it gives us freedom from all of this drama… we are not in a state of mind with it all to make the right decision," Stephens said. "And as you know, we're sitting here right now talking about the loss of my son because we took the risk."
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