Do you ever look in the mirror and wonder who the idiot staring back at you might be? Genuinely curious.
COVID is apparently no big deal!
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Millions dead! Millions!
(If only there were 90000 more elderly homes in NY you might get your wish)
(If only there were 90000 more elderly homes in NY you might get your wish)
The more infectious is it, the higher the percentage needed to establish herd immunity. Measles is the most infectious virus but Covid is pretty damn high on the list.
Here is the thing about Covid. Hospitals are incentivized to write up every single individual who dies, who also happens to have Covid, as a Covid death. Why? The CARES Act pays all their bills, whether they are insured or not. The reality is, the number of people who have died exclusively from Covid in the country, who were otherwise healthy, is less than 10,000 people. Also, one area that is underreported is the high number of deaths in nursing homes due to the policies of DEMOCRATIC governors in their States. This contributed heavily to the numbers. The Democrats have some explaining to do.
www.bridgemi.com
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www.propublica.org
A third of Michigan’s COVID deaths are in nursing homes. Who is to blame?
Michigan Republicans claim Gov. Gretchen Whitmer’s policies are partially to blame for 2,000 nursing home deaths. But new data show the state is far from alone in failing to protect its most vulnerable from the virus, as states like Florida once heralded for its policies are seeing dramatic spikes.
www.bridgemi.com
Andrew Cuomo’s Report on Controversial Nursing Home Policy for COVID Patients Prompts More Controversy
A state report on Cuomo’s decision to order nursing homes to take in COVID positive patients in the early days of the pandemic fails to deal with the central question: did such admissions lead to more infection and death, and if so how significantly.
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Its crazy to look at those numbers and see how deadly thr 1918 pandemic was especially when you account for the giant difference in population. Good post, thanks.
Wow! You're almost dumb enough to be President!
You are a sick man. Truly what some people would call deplorable when the term is properly applied.
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Please explain how posting quotes from the President makes me a “sick man”?You are a sick man. Truly what some people would call deplorable when the term is properly applied.
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Again: Swedes have voluntarily distanced and used masks, because those are the recommendations from their government leaders.
They have been mostly effected at it, after they saw the results of NOT doing it in the early summer. And their numbers this month are mostly on par with their neighbors. No herd immunity.
I don't think you can say either definitively right now. I am sure I could find a 1:1 ratio of studies or articles claiming both.
Based on the WH interference, I'm not sure we should be assuming anything from CDC which is well out of line with WHO and other numbers is sound data at this point.No, herd immunity requires more like 20-25% infection rate.
Individual variation in susceptibility or exposure to SARS-CoV-2 lowers the herd immunity threshold
Individual variation in susceptibility and exposure is subject to selection by natural infection, accelerating the acquisition of immunity, and reducing herd immunity thresholds and epidemic final sizes. This is a manifestation of a wider population phenomenon ...www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
And even the CDC says the infectin fatality rate (IFR) is
0-19 years: 0.003%
20-49 years: 0.02%
50-69 years: 0.5%
70+ years: 5.4%
Or a apoplation wide IFR of about 0.65%
Impeachment is becoming watered down. We’re now hearing impeachment hearings as a possible arrow from skeletor’s quiver because Trump is planning to nominate a justice to fill RBG’s seat.
I highly doubt it comes to that, but the mere mention of it is ridiculous.
Disclaimer: I think the winner of the election should get to nominate her replacement.
Viral inoculum related to illness severity has been established since the 1930s. And, yes, there have been many randomized trials that demonstrate it.
There is nothing about Trump and his enablers in Congress that isn't ridiculous. We live in ridiculous times. Since I posted that I have moved to the "Just let the Republicans do what they are going to do with the SC seat." , side. There's nothing really the Democrats can do to stop it from happening. But then the Democrats, if they regain power, can do whatever the hell they want. Play the Republican game.
That article is not, so sorry you can't use it according to your logic with HCQ. Don't be a hypocrite. There are plenty of articles and studies that say the opposite.
So when the CDC advises you to wear a mask when out in public, you shouldn't assume this is based on sound data?
What's your source for the COVID IFT in the US (hint: there are a number scientists whose reasearch suggests it is likely lower than 0.65% so maybe you're right and the CDC is part of the #FearPorn spread by #CoronaBros).
"That Article" is relying on the randomized, controlled studies of viral inoculum. It's well established as a key element in disease severity.
I'm telling you that the WH is muzzling much of the information coming out of CDC.
Ergo, if they say masks in public are important, you should probably wear 2.
No. They don’t. And they laugh at the rest of the world for letting a seasonal bug destroy their economy.
Did you really mean to say the CDC is right except when the CDC is wrong.
Or was that just your way of saying that for a dunce, you sure aint real bright?
No.
The first cluster was represented by 25 women (age range, 34 to 86 years-old) that lived in a community located on the outskirts of Madrid.
A second cluster of COVID-19 was identified in a group of 12 women (age range, 53 to 85 years-old) that lived together in an apartment flat (650 m2) in downtown Madrid.
The third cluster consisted of a group of ten adults (seven male; age range, 56 to 76 years-old) that met in a small conference room (60 m2) for three hours on March 4,
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This is outdated
7 day running avg in Sweden was 160 new cases at the beginning of Sept
Now it is >300, or essentially doubled.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/
You're comparing Case Studies to 80+ years of evidence which includes RCTs.
'Member when you complained about those a few posts ago?
https://ig.ft.com/coronavirus-chart...lative=0&logScale=1&perMillion=1&values=cases
They are right in the middle, among their Nordic neighbors.
Sweden is performing WORSE than the US if you look at the %s
And far worse than Nordic neighbors.
The predicted post-Labor Day surge in cases, hospitalizations, and deaths hasn't happened in Florida.
That was my whole point dude. You're being a hypocrite. If you can't accept the studies I post about HCQ, why should anyone accept yours with a whole freaking sample size of 47 people in three different sites which weren't random. You don't have 80+ years of evidence. That's just BS
Your HCQ studies were crap.
Which is why it's no longer indicated for treatment.
That you do not understand why, is a reflection on your lack of medical and science knowledge.
Yeah ok colonel corn nuts, that's what states have recently rescinded their ban on the drug for covid treatment and made it available again. But yeah lets go with your 47 subjects as a "real" study! Brilliant medical and science knowledge!
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