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Creepy and gross, but fascinating, story on how the US collected (and kept) samples from Nagasaki and Hiroshima victims for research

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The human remains taken from Hiroshima and Nagasaki formed a crucial archive for understanding the effects of radiation, and from the very beginning the U.S. government touted the usefulness of this new collection. A 1946 International News Service wire article that discussed Midori Naka’s remains reveals that scientists had determined that the type of structure a victim was in at the time of exposure affected the impact of the radiation: “The fate of the Japanese is correlated with the type of building and its location in which they suffered injuries or death. This knowledge is expected to lead to development of structural defenses.” Many of the scientific assessments of fallout and radiation poisoning depended, at least in some measure, on this wet archive.

Specimens in the “wet archive” were known primarily by number. But for these remains to have scientific value, the organs had to be further atomized and anatomized, thinly sliced into slides, stabilized in wax and formaldehyde, and otherwise preserved, altered, or mutilated. They ceased to be human, and instead became records. Nobuki Uchiyama became known as Atomic Energy Case #158930-79. This change was significant. An individual who dies from radiation poisoning is a case history. Only in the aggregate did these lives—and deaths—begin to mean something else, as individual specimens could be compared against others to identify trends and differences. The body parts expatriated to the United States lost any connections they held to the individuals and identities that they had once been part of. They stopped being parts of human bodies became even smaller parts in a larger new body of knowledge.



 
Check out this building in D.C. -- the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology -- this is where they kept all the nuclear victim bodies and the building itself is nuclear blast-proof:

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Amazing how much money and energy and human intelligence is spent on shit like this. We’re a pretty disgusting species, all things considered.
 
Amazing how much money and energy and human intelligence is spent on shit like this. We’re a pretty disgusting species, all things considered.
Well, the work did need to be done.

It is probably a net benefit to mankind to have had scientists and doctors researching and documenting the effects of nuclear fallout.
 
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Well, the work did need to be done.

It is probably a net benefit to mankind to have had scientists and doctors researching and documenting the effects of nuclear fallout.
Sure. But imagine if all the energy to kill and learn from new ways to kill was simply directed to learning and adhering to basic laws of fùcking nature.
 
Sure. But imagine if all the energy to kill and learn from new ways to kill was simply directed to learning and adhering to basic laws of fùcking nature.
This makes me sad whenever I think about it. If the resources spent on war and defense were spent on advancing humanity we would probably already be on Mars and many terminal diseases would be stories from the past. Especially when you think about how much has been spent for THOUSANDS of years.
 
We let the Japanese version of Dr. Mengele get away with it in return for his research. The United States was pretty hot for information at the time.
 
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