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To Gobblin and all the others who argued with me about how Brooks was going to take it to Nickal

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I absolutely love the hubris displayed here by FT (btw FT, I actually thought the gif was pretty funny), it exemplifies the monumental pride/ego that the PSU fan base has established for themselves over the past 6 years. Obviously I see things through a different lens as I didn't start following Iowa wrestling or college wrestling hard until about 6 years ago, so I didn't have any of the old visions of Iowa dynasties in my mind to compare the current product to. All I can say is it is going to be so much sweeter when we are back on top again. PSU fans can make all the delusions they want about Iowa being history, but everyone can see the recruiting on an up tick. All things being equal, including recruiting, between Cael and the Brands.. I'll take TnT every time. Iowa will be back on top sooner than later.

As my good friend Count Dooku said..


I thought the reference was good since we are the Sith Lords.
 
To Gobblin and all the others who argued with me about how Brooks was going to take it to Nickal

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This was Gobblin's original post that was so offensive to Flying Tiger that he felt the need to pick a fight and try to get a wager going:

Brooks is just as likely to put Nikkle in danger in one of those big move 50/50 scrambles. Sammy has done damn well for himself in those situations over his career and has great feel and leverage in those upper body situations. This match has potential to be an all timer... Hope both guys are healthy and feeling confident. Can't wait.

Nobody said Brooks was going to "take it to Bo." For real FT, I thought you were joking this morning but you really are a serious douche. Your smugness really does reflect this pic...you really told us:

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I give Flying Tiger a lot of credit for having been one of the only diehard Penn State wrestling fans in the pre-Cael days.

I don't mind the post, either - at least as long as he doesn't disappear from the board when he's wrong.
 
After watching again, it was a weird situation as both guys were flat. Nonetheless, Bo deserved the win.

http://www.flowrestling.org/video/1...-penn-state-vs-sammy-brooks-iowa#.WIQ3hIE76Ec

Good point. I was saying this to my dad last night at Carver. A difficult place to try a spaldle, which, makes it all the more frustrating that Brooks let it happen. Bo is dangerous from a lot of different positions as we all know, but that shouldn't have happened and won't again. Big Ten finals? :)
 
I am in the camp that Brooks can still beat Nickal. But, he was not caught. Nickal forced that spladle. It was very impressive to watch. Brooks even tried to belly down and extend his legs and Nickal still worked it over. That is one position where leverage and length are a huge advantage.
 
Gotta admit that is a pretty awesome gif from Flying Tiger.
 
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To Gobblin and all the others who argued with me about how Brooks was going to take it to Nickal

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And what about your sure fire post on how Hall wouldn't lose a match, much less to an Iowa kid. Oh, you only remember sure fire predictions. I'll predict PS 133 won't win the BIG10 or the Nationals. (way out on a limb for me.)
 
Wow, a lot if pizzing and moaning here by people who had some rather ignorant things to say to me in that thread. Lets not forget Az, there was a lot more said then that:

"Spoken like a spoiled teenager with no sack"

"But he'll have the satisfaction of being right Gobblin. Somehow, this is the image of FT in my mind right now" -- You used this again in this thread AZ, get some new material, geez

"FT is loaded with Gold chains"

"True color shining through... Yellow."

"LOL chicken shit FT"

"I will up the ante. If chickensh*t wins I won't post on BWI for a year. I also won't say anything negative about the Growth Hormone using wrestlers on the Penn State team."

Seems to me you guys should of expected some push back, especially after Bo dispatched Brooks in under 40 seconds. If it was the other way around, I would of expected to get some noise and would of been man enough to own my comments instead crying about how mean you are. Besides, how could I resist with a GIF that good?

btw, Here is the entire thread: https://iowa.forums.rivals.com/threads/iowa-vs-psu.170012/
An interesting read after the fact.
 
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And therein lies the problem, whenever someone posts anything that interferes with the latest delusion, they are considered a douche. I remember questioning why everyone was so confident that Grothus would be successful at 141 considering he was dropping to a weight he hadn't seen since high school and was coming off an injury and I was called a troll. Heck I was called a troll for simply letting you guys know Morningstar was coming back to coach. See it's not really me but when I inject reality into the conversation, the only other option besides calling me a name is to start living in the real world with the rest of us and for some here that's just too much to ask. It's much easier to accept Penn State winning because of steroids or breaking scholarship rules or that Cael is unethical then accepting they are just better. Similarly, it's easier to accept Brooks lost because "he got caught" vs losing because Nickal is simply better as I stated in the thread in question.
 
And therein lies the problem, whenever someone posts anything that interferes with the latest delusion, they are considered a douche. I remember questioning why everyone was so confident that Grothus would be successful at 141 considering he was dropping to a weight he hadn't seen since high school and was coming off an injury and I was called a troll. Heck I was called a troll for simply letting you guys know Morningstar was coming back to coach. See it's not really me but when I inject reality into the conversation, the only other option besides calling me a name is to start living in the real world with the rest of us and for some here that's just too much to ask. It's much easier to accept Penn State winning because of steroids or breaking scholarship rules or that Cael is unethical then accepting they are just better. Similarly, it's easier to accept Brooks lost because "he got caught" vs losing because Nickal is simply better as I stated in the thread in question.
No, really it comes down to you acting like an ass and lacking self-awareness = being a douche.
 
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This is the second or third recent thread where someone is offended by the term "caught." As Inigo Montoya would say: "You keep using that word. I don't think this means what you think it means." Every move is caught. You set the other wrestler up an try to catch them in a move. Brooks caught Bo in a sweep single and before he could finish that technique Bo caught Brooks in a spladle. If they had said it was a fluke (just appeared in another thread) then you may be right. Caught does not suggest luck. Wrestling is all about catching people. Oh, and that was a sweet duck by Wilke when he caught Morelli pushing. Caught does not diminish the technique, and Bo's second effort to force that over was impressive. Have to appreciate good wrestling even if you don't like the result.
 
I'm in the camp that says Brooks will never beat the top 2 guys. He's too inconsistent.
I also think he's good enough for 3rd place or he might not even AA.
 
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And therein lies the problem, whenever someone posts anything that interferes with the latest delusion, they are considered a douche. I remember questioning why everyone was so confident that Grothus would be successful at 141 considering he was dropping to a weight he hadn't seen since high school and was coming off an injury and I was called a troll. Heck I was called a troll for simply letting you guys know Morningstar was coming back to coach. See it's not really me but when I inject reality into the conversation, the only other option besides calling me a name is to start living in the real world with the rest of us and for some here that's just too much to ask. It's much easier to accept Penn State winning because of steroids or breaking scholarship rules or that Cael is unethical then accepting they are just better. Similarly, it's easier to accept Brooks lost because "he got caught" vs losing because Nickal is simply better as I stated in the thread in question.

So you're a misunderstood troll - classic. Normally, you have to go into a prison to encounter this type sociopathic logic. Basically, you're an immature loser that can't accept the fact that this is an Iowa board and we're Iowa fans.
 
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I don't think there is a textbook definition for getting caught in wrestling, but I've usually heard it to mean surprised with a move that had catastrophic effects.
 
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I don't think there is a textbook definition for getting caught in wrestling, but I've usually heard it to mean surprised with a move that had catastrophic effects.
Ya know it when you see it, and Brooks didn't get caught. He quit moving and got stuck because of it. And Flying Pussy Cat is still a douchebag, just not in his own mind.
 
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Wow, a lot if pizzing and moaning here by people who had some rather ignorant things to say to me in that thread. Lets not forget Az, there was a lot more said then that:

"Spoken like a spoiled teenager with no sack"

"But he'll have the satisfaction of being right Gobblin. Somehow, this is the image of FT in my mind right now" -- You used this again in this thread AZ, get some new material, geez

"FT is loaded with Gold chains"

"True color shining through... Yellow."

"LOL chicken shit FT"

"I will up the ante. If chickensh*t wins I won't post on BWI for a year. I also won't say anything negative about the Growth Hormone using wrestlers on the Penn State team."

Seems to me you guys should of expected some push back, especially after Bo dispatched Brooks in under 40 seconds. If it was the other way around, I would of expected to get some noise and would of been man enough to own my comments instead crying about how mean you are. Besides, how could I resist with a GIF that good?

btw, Here is the entire thread: https://iowa.forums.rivals.com/threads/iowa-vs-psu.170012/
An interesting read after the fact.

Against good judgement I re-read that thread. If that is the thread you choose to support your contention that people were picking Brooks over Bo then you may want to re-read it as well. I think I saw one person pick Brooks, before the 'wager' chat started. People appeared to just want you gone vs. thinking Brooks would win. You had a chance at a pretty lopsided bet if you were that confident in Bo, you passed. Pretty easy to spout off after the fact and say 'see, just as I said' except you never backed it up with anything of substance. Congratulations on 'your' big victory. Your hard work and commitment paid off.
 
I don't think there is a textbook definition for getting caught in wrestling, but I've usually heard it to mean surprised with a move that had catastrophic effects.
I agree no textbook definition and often used when a big move is used. The point is it's not necessarily dismissive. I was taught to "catch him reaching," "catch him stepping," or "catch him stepping." If I thought a poster was trying to suggest it was lucky I would happily say hell ya he caught him and caught him big and we've seen him catch a bunch of kids big.
 
Wow, a lot if pizzing and moaning here by people who had some rather ignorant things to say to me in that thread. Lets not forget Az, there was a lot more said then that:

"Spoken like a spoiled teenager with no sack"

"But he'll have the satisfaction of being right Gobblin. Somehow, this is the image of FT in my mind right now" -- You used this again in this thread AZ, get some new material, geez

"FT is loaded with Gold chains"

"True color shining through... Yellow."

"LOL chicken shit FT"

"I will up the ante. If chickensh*t wins I won't post on BWI for a year. I also won't say anything negative about the Growth Hormone using wrestlers on the Penn State team."

Seems to me you guys should of expected some push back, especially after Bo dispatched Brooks in under 40 seconds. If it was the other way around, I would of expected to get some noise and would of been man enough to own my comments instead crying about how mean you are. Besides, how could I resist with a GIF that good?

btw, Here is the entire thread: https://iowa.forums.rivals.com/threads/iowa-vs-psu.170012/
An interesting read after the fact.

It was a funny Gif. I prefer to watch it tagged onto the end of the Meyer-Hall match though............
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Here is a take from another PSU fan. I'll admit I was slightly worried about Brooks. Bo Nickal is phenomenal, but, the kind of guys who worry me with him are the ones who aren't afraid to go upper body throws with him. Brooks falls into that category. In my humble opinion, without Brooks hitting Bo (no catching but hitting) with a big move from is feet, I struggle to see him winning. However, Bo's style, while a blast to watch, leaves him susceptible to getting thrown himself (See NCAA finals last year). Brooks is one of the guys fearless enough to possibly win one of those upper tie throw attempts.

As for the dual, despite the score, I'll admit that Iowa blew me away in a lot of individual matches. Sorensen certainly changed my opinion of him. That was an amazing effort, and I'm not buying any excuses PSU is selling on Zain. The fact is, Sorensen not only found offense on his feet, but, figured out how to get off the bottom, which changes everything in this match-up. Obviously, I didn't expect Hall to be Meyer, but, knew it would a tough match. I also expected PSU to win by more at 165 & 197. I thought Iowa wrestled extremely hard and it was a case of the dual score not showing how tight the individual matches were.

I know that you guys know that Iowa fans aren't perfect. I've been going to nationals for years, and I've run into many more great Iowa fans than not. However, you also have a portion that doesn't like what PSU has established and makes it known, sometimes in pretty unsportsmanlike ways. However, I will be the first to admit that there is a decent sized portion of PSU fans who jumped on board the bandwagon and really don't know the sport all that well. Sitting in Rec Hall can be painful and I have to bite my lip often. I've even had to confront some PSU fans for acting extremely unsportsmanlike at bars at Nationals.

Reality is, rivalries are great for this sport. I love this sport with all my heart. I'm a PSU fan through and through, but, I just really enjoy great wrestling, and Iowa has my respect and always will. There is too much trolling from both sides. I prefer to just enjoy the rivalry and the great wrestling that comes out of it.
 
Wow, a lot if pizzing and moaning here by people who had some rather ignorant things to say to me in that thread. Lets not forget Az, there was a lot more said then that:

"Spoken like a spoiled teenager with no sack"

"But he'll have the satisfaction of being right Gobblin. Somehow, this is the image of FT in my mind right now" -- You used this again in this thread AZ, get some new material, geez

"FT is loaded with Gold chains"

"True color shining through... Yellow."

"LOL chicken shit FT"

"I will up the ante. If chickensh*t wins I won't post on BWI for a year. I also won't say anything negative about the Growth Hormone using wrestlers on the Penn State team."

Seems to me you guys should of expected some push back, especially after Bo dispatched Brooks in under 40 seconds. If it was the other way around, I would of expected to get some noise and would of been man enough to own my comments instead crying about how mean you are. Besides, how could I resist with a GIF that good?

btw, Here is the entire thread: https://iowa.forums.rivals.com/threads/iowa-vs-psu.170012/
An interesting read after the fact.

Interesting that you didn't quote your post in reply to Gobblin merely suggesting it would be competitive and supporting his guy:

Nickal is at another level and if Brooks goes upper body he will be counting the lights. I don't understand why you guys continue to hold Brooks in such high esteem. He has a single 8th place finish into his senior year. Jimmy Gulibon has had a better career to this point.

Nobody in that thread was going was taking a hard line that Brooks was going to beat Bo except Gobblin who offered you a bet which you didn't take because your weren't that confident in your boy. All of those comments were about that. I guess you were too scared that you wouldn't be able to come back to HR and start threads like this when PSU has success. By the way...they didn't go upper body. Another btw, get used to Smug Hippie...every time you post, you are getting it. Someone above mentioned that you have been one of the few loyal fans before Cael. You are the 98 pound weakling who got muscles and have become the "Iowa fans" you used to despise after getting sand kicked in your face for all of those pre Cael years.

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Here is a take from another PSU fan. I'll admit I was slightly worried about Brooks. Bo Nickal is phenomenal, but, the kind of guys who worry me with him are the ones who aren't afraid to go upper body throws with him. Brooks falls into that category. In my humble opinion, without Brooks hitting Bo (no catching but hitting) with a big move from is feet, I struggle to see him winning. However, Bo's style, while a blast to watch, leaves him susceptible to getting thrown himself (See NCAA finals last year). Brooks is one of the guys fearless enough to possibly win one of those upper tie throw attempts.

As for the dual, despite the score, I'll admit that Iowa blew me away in a lot of individual matches. Sorensen certainly changed my opinion of him. That was an amazing effort, and I'm not buying any excuses PSU is selling on Zain. The fact is, Sorensen not only found offense on his feet, but, figured out how to get off the bottom, which changes everything in this match-up. Obviously, I didn't expect Hall to be Meyer, but, knew it would a tough match. I also expected PSU to win by more at 165 & 197. I thought Iowa wrestled extremely hard and it was a case of the dual score not showing how tight the individual matches were.

I know that you guys know that Iowa fans aren't perfect. I've been going to nationals for years, and I've run into many more great Iowa fans than not. However, you also have a portion that doesn't like what PSU has established and makes it known, sometimes in pretty unsportsmanlike ways. However, I will be the first to admit that there is a decent sized portion of PSU fans who jumped on board the bandwagon and really don't know the sport all that well. Sitting in Rec Hall can be painful and I have to bite my lip often. I've even had to confront some PSU fans for acting extremely unsportsmanlike at bars at Nationals.

Reality is, rivalries are great for this sport. I love this sport with all my heart. I'm a PSU fan through and through, but, I just really enjoy great wrestling, and Iowa has my respect and always will. There is too much trolling from both sides. I prefer to just enjoy the rivalry and the great wrestling that comes out of it.

The lion's share of Iowa fans have the utmost respect for the PSU program and the way the wrestlers carry themselves on and off the mat. I think the distain is directed at PSU fans, which you would understand if you spent any time on this site or themat.com.
 
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