David Taylor, Ed Ruth and then Jason Nolf (Bo Nickal maybe)

[MadChill]

I've always appreciated and respected IA rasslin', and still do. The program is , and has always produced hard-nosed, physical rasslers. Each of them from neutral will work to control the head with heavy hands, always snapping hard to setup a long reach to snatch the leg, slowly collect, and dramatically finish for TTWWWOOOOOO at the buzzer. (Oh, the unfettered jubilation while witnessing that in Carver Hawkeye)! And if you can't shoot and score, you must push, push, and push.

By the by, as for me, I grew up a PSU fan. From the days of Clyde Frantz, Andy Matter, Dave Joyner, Jerry Villeco, and Jerry White, up until to today. I was raised in AA District 6. Not the best wrestling district in the state, but for perspective, Quentin Wright was from AAA DIstrict 6, so overall, not thick with big timers, but there were good and great ones.

As I've suggested, I was a frequent visitor to Rec Hall, and it was my dad who got me interested in rasslin.
- In '72, he took me and my two brothers, Steven and Rick to the NCAA championships at College Park, MD. We saw Chris Taylor earn a championship for IA State, and with that victory came the ultimate demise of the "super" heavyweight. If memory serves, Tab Thacker in '84 was the last of them. If you're curious, check the '72 NCAA results. Sad fact of that tournament: Michigan State had three national titlists in the first four weights.

With my listing of credentials, here's my question: Knowing your allegiance, and not asking you to disassociate your allegiance, how fun is/was it to watch David Taylor, Ed Ruth, Jason Nolf, and right there with them, Bo Nickal? As a rooting fan, it's really, really fun.

 

[Cruo]

The most fun I had watching Taylor was in his finals match against Bubba, Ed Ruth looked bored, Nolf is easily the best head musher in the sport, and I don't find Nickal to be all that attractive.

 

[MSU158]

Loved to watch Ruth. Although he did look disinterested at times, he was simply head and shoulders above his competition.

I hated watching Taylor(although he did grow on me at the World Cup). Because he was such a prolific scorer he got away with a TON of parallel riding. He would sit on the hips and either tilt you once you based up or whine to the ref if you didn't.

Nolf has grown on me as he is very Metcalf like with his relentless pressure. I would probably have liked him more if not for Martinez being my current favorite.

Finally, Nickal is probably the most entertaining. I am not sold he is as good as the others overall, but he is definitely the most dangerous. I will be cheering as hard as possible for Dean in March, but Nickal will definitely keep me on the edge of my seat for the entire match if they meet!

 

[wasdt21]

your old enough to watch chris taylor and you still call it rasslin, put down the whiskey go to bed and don't bother us again.

 

[djeatsot]

Shut up and stop wasting time our time on here. Calling wrestling, "rasslin" makes you sound like a dumbass, and nobody on here gives a rats ass about your credentials, or that you're a trolling psu fan. Move on from this nonsense

 

[Jts1990]

With my listing of credentials, here's my question: Knowing your allegiance, and not asking you to disassociate your allegiance, how fun is/was it to watch David Taylor, Ed Ruth, Jason Nolf, and right there with them, Bo Nickal? As a rooting fan, it's really, really fun.

Are you f*{|!%* kidding me? Use your damn head and think about how they feel watching these guys wrestle.

Figure it out yet?

You lay your credentials out there but you still did a very poor job hiding the troll job you're trying to pull off here. You're naming some of the most exciting wrestlers the sport has ever seen. You're also naming guys that wrestled/wrestle for the team everyone (including them) now considers the pinnacle of the sport. It's the damn team winning all the championships that Iowa fans grown accustomed to enjoying themselves year in and year out.

So did you figure it out yet? No? Then I'll tell you how they feel. They absolutely hate watching these guys wrestle. Or to be more exact, they hate to see them win. Now you'll get your Iowa fan saying these guys are good for the sport, makes RASSLIN' more exciting for the fans but don't let them fool you. They hate how good PSU wrestling has become. Yeah...they watch. They tune in to see them wrestle but don't kid yourself in thinking they enjoy it. There's only one way they enjoy it and that's the rare times they see these guys lose.

Was that clear enough Troll?

 

[nearfall2]

Emanuel Yarbrough was the last of the "Super" Heavyweights. He was a junior in 1986 (the last year before the wt. change). He placed 8th D1 in Carver. Watched him at a tournament in '86 get put on his back. His opponent was chest to chest at 90 degrees.
Emanuel reached out and grabbed his knee and lifted is legs up until his feet were pointing to the ceiling, then rolled over and pinned him.

 

[lookleft goright]

Even I, "Mr Neutral", saw that as a trolling attempt.

 

[StParis]

Shut up and stop wasting time our time on here. Calling wrestling, "rasslin" makes you sound like a dumbass, and nobody on here gives a rats ass about your credentials, or that you're a trolling psu fan. Move on from this nonsense

Wow, you're really a dick.

I've always appreciated and respected IA rasslin', and still do. The program is , and has always produced hard-nosed, physical rasslers. Each of them from neutral will work to control the head with heavy hands, always snapping hard to setup a long reach to snatch the leg, slowly collect, and dramatically finish for TTWWWOOOOOO at the buzzer. (Oh, the unfettered jubilation while witnessing that in Carver Hawkeye)! And if you can't shoot and score, you must push, push, and push

 

[GOLDBANGER]

Even I, "Mr Neutral", saw that as a trolling attempt.

^^^^What lookleft said^^^^

 

[86_90]

Watching Kyle Dake go up 3 weight classes and handle Taylor on every stage was a great way to spend 20 minutes during Taylor's Senior Season--was it 3 out of 3 or 4 out of 4 victories for Dake? That Taylor was always in a weak weight class was proven when the smaller/undersized Dake had his number throughout the year. Although, to Taylor's credit, he closed the gap as the season wore. The strain of moving up 3 weight classes and wrestling bigger guys wore on Dake as the year dragged on. The equivalent would be much like Matt McDonough wrestling 149lbers his senior year and beating a guy like Rutherford in the finals. (I first thought of using Metcalf @149 instead of a guy like Rutherford, but matching McDonough up against an all-time dominant wrestler, who handled multiple national champions, versus Taylor who dominated historically weak weight classes, is not a fair comparison. So McD vs Rutherford seems about the same as Dake vs Taylor--the impressive part is not the opponent--who happened to be Taylor--but the 4 weight classes, the last one proving to be a paper tiger of sorts.)

Taylor's size advantage was his biggest advantage, like Ruth's freakishly long arms. Great memories of Dake overwhelming the his larger opponent and cementing one legacy and casting great doubt on another.

 

[Grip220]

Hey who wants to go TROLLING for some fish....

 

[neiowahawk]

Well MadChill, you brought out the best! Jeebus!

 

[StParis]

Watching Kyle Dake go up 3 weight classes and handle Taylor on every stage was a great way to spend 20 minutes during Taylor's Senior Season--was it 3 out of 3 or 4 out of 4 victories for Dake? That Taylor was always in a weak weight class was proven when the smaller/undersized Dake had his number throughout the year. Although, to Taylor's credit, he closed the gap as the season wore. The strain of moving up 3 weight classes and wrestling bigger guys wore on Dake as the year dragged on. The equivalent would be much like Matt McDonough wrestling 149lbers his senior year and beating a guy like Rutherford in the finals. (I first thought of using Metcalf @149 instead of a guy like Rutherford, but matching McDonough up against an all-time dominant wrestler, who handled multiple national champions, versus Taylor who dominated historically weak weight classes, is not a fair comparison. So McD vs Rutherford seems about the same as Dake vs Taylor--the impressive part is not the opponent--who happened to be Taylor--but the 4 weight classes, the last one proving to be a paper tiger of sorts.)

Taylor's size advantage was his biggest advantage, like Ruth's freakishly long arms. Great memories of Dake overwhelming the his larger opponent and cementing one legacy and casting great doubt on another.

Hopefully Dake isn't washed up and can win a World title, beating multiple Olympic medalists like DT just did.

 

[cidhawkeye]

Hopefully Dake isn't washed up and can win a World title, beating multiple Olympic medalists like DT just did.

Was that in an individual tournament?

 

[pablow]

Hopefully Dake isn't washed up and can win a World title, beating multiple Olympic medalists like DT just did.

Taylor beat a couple good guys, but he won a World Cup silver medal - just like his teammates. Taylor got his pants blown off the last time he wrestled Dake. I wouldn't bring Dake into the conversation.

 

[WildTurk]

Hopefully Dake isn't washed up and can win a World title, beating multiple Olympic medalists like DT just did.

Evidently you havent been paying attention. Dake is looking pretty good these days. He made Derringer look like a high school wrestler not long ago. Washed up? Lmao

 

[Azchief32]

Hopefully Dake isn't washed up and can win a World title, beating multiple Olympic medalists like DT just did.

I like DT...I rooted for him against Dake. But just stop.

 

[Stanley75]

I like DT...I rooted for him against Dake. But just stop.

I actually thought DT would beat Dake. Dake was for real though.

 

[lookleft goright]

Watching Kyle Dake go up 3 weight classes and handle Taylor on every stage was a great way to spend 20 minutes during Taylor's Senior Season--was it 3 out of 3 or 4 out of 4 victories for Dake? That Taylor was always in a weak weight class was proven when the smaller/undersized Dake had his number throughout the year. Although, to Taylor's credit, he closed the gap as the season wore. The strain of moving up 3 weight classes and wrestling bigger guys wore on Dake as the year dragged on. The equivalent would be much like Matt McDonough wrestling 149lbers his senior year and beating a guy like Rutherford in the finals. (I first thought of using Metcalf @149 instead of a guy like Rutherford, but matching McDonough up against an all-time dominant wrestler, who handled multiple national champions, versus Taylor who dominated historically weak weight classes, is not a fair comparison. So McD vs Rutherford seems about the same as Dake vs Taylor--the impressive part is not the opponent--who happened to be Taylor--but the 4 weight classes, the last one proving to be a paper tiger of sorts.)

Taylor's size advantage was his biggest advantage, like Ruth's freakishly long arms. Great memories of Dake overwhelming the his larger opponent and cementing one legacy and casting great doubt on another.

It is hard to tell if the weight class is weak or the guys are evenly matched or someone is just that good. An example would be 174 a few years ago. Everyone talked about how tough it was, but how many of those guys have made an impact on the world level. Perry was a 2 time champ and he was not even taken seriously on the world level. I would say that wight class had a lot of evenly matched guys, but it was not super tough.

Now, on the other hand, you have DT and Dake who have both beaten world champs and russians. I would conclude that Taylor was that good and the weight class was not necessarily that weak. I would also say that Dake was better.

 

[MSU158]

It is hard to tell if the weight class is weak or the guys are evenly matched or someone is just that good. An example would be 174 a few years ago. Everyone talked about how tough it was, but how many of those guys have made an impact on the world level. Perry was a 2 time champ and he was not even taken seriously on the world level. I would say that wight class had a lot of evenly matched guys, but it was not super tough.

Now, on the other hand, you have DT and Dake who have both beaten world champs and russians. I would conclude that Taylor was that good and the weight class was not necessarily that weak. I would also say that Dake was better.

I am sorry, but using World Level Impact as a barometer is horribly flawed. Many don't transition well into Freestyle and 174 is in between 2 weight classes. Still, Howe was pretty damn successful at the World Level and just so happened to be stuck behind an All Time Great in Burroughs.