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'Democrats are on the verge of repeating a voting rights blunder that led to the rise of Jim Crow' CNN

The right keeps ranting about voter fraud. Where? What? When? STFU and take loss like adults.

This Orange Turd fcvked up this country in manners no one could predict, and the spineless Republican party is lock-step complicit with his damage.
 
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The legislature does not have the power to overturn voters. SMH
“Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors…” (Article II, Section 1)

The only limitation to what they can do is that it must be in place before the election. So explain what would stop them from passing a law that says a contested result that can't be resolved can be tossed and the legislature can then appoint it's own electors.
 
In Georgia there were multiple instances of election officials mismanaging ballots and voter data. You would need to be a mind reader to know if it was intentional fraud.

Examples? Accusations or fact.

Some of the Orange Turd's bullshit "millions" or "hundreds of thousands" of ballots, maybe!

Cry foul constantly, lie or exaggerate and you have no credibility. Sophomoric audits, absurd claims of voter fraud. The right shot its wad long ago.
 
Biden won Georgia by 12,000 votes. Ossoff forced a runoff by a similar tally. These are very slim margins.

But more importantly Georgians need to have confidence in their election integrity. You don’t wait for a break in before you put locks on your house.
LOL...your logic is impeccable. Sow doubt about the results of an election then use that doubt that you created to pass laws limiting voting access. Brilliant. Really.
 
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Cry foul constantly, lie or exaggerate and you have no credibility. Sophomoric audits, absurd claims of voter fraud. The right shot its wad long ago.
Their point wasn't to overturn the election. Their point was to create the very doubt they can now point to to justify whatever they want to do.
 
Examples? Accusations or fact.

Some of the Orange Turd's bullshit "millions" or "hundreds of thousands" of ballots, maybe!

Cry foul constantly, lie or exaggerate and you have no credibility. Sophomoric audits, absurd claims of voter fraud. The right shot its wad long ago.
Double counted ballots

This story illustrates just how difficult it is to catch somebody that wanted to cheat, since the only way this was uncovered was a telltale vote for Kanye West that you could see repeating in the scans. One of my favorite quotes, I believe it was in the story, is that if Fulton County was intentionally trying to cheat it would be obvious because they are so incompetent.

This is the first one that comes to mind but there have been a smattering of other reports. The issue is not if Joe Biden is the rightful winner of the election, the issue is finding ways to make voting more reliable and secure.
 
Double counted ballots

This story illustrates just how difficult it is to catch somebody that wanted to cheat, since the only way this was uncovered was a telltale vote for Kanye West that you could see repeating in the scans. One of my favorite quotes, I believe it was in the story, is that if Fulton County was intentionally trying to cheat it would be obvious because they are so incompetent.

This is the first one that comes to mind but there have been a smattering of other reports. The issue is not if Joe Biden is the rightful winner of the election, the issue is finding ways to make voting more reliable and secure.
Again though, IT WAS CAUGHT - ergo, the control measures work!

which of the new measures make sure it doesn’t happen at all?

individual fraud/human error is easy to do. It’s doing it on a scale large enough to actually impact an election that’s nearly impossible today, with all of the controls that are in place.
 
Double counted ballots

This story illustrates just how difficult it is to catch somebody that wanted to cheat, since the only way this was uncovered was a telltale vote for Kanye West that you could see repeating in the scans. One of my favorite quotes, I believe it was in the story, is that if Fulton County was intentionally trying to cheat it would be obvious because they are so incompetent.

This is the first one that comes to mind but there have been a smattering of other reports. The issue is not if Joe Biden is the rightful winner of the election, the issue is finding ways to make voting more reliable and secure.

What scams? Voting activities were observed by partisan party members. Do you know what that means? The results were recounted and audited. Verified and validated. By a Republican Secretary of State.

The mechanisms for processing ballots are designed to protect accuracy and prevent malfeasance. As ballots move trough the stream at the precinct level, the steps are recorded for each ballot individually. For a ballot to be counted more than once it would have to be counted so in multiple operations and memorialized as such.

Not to say it can't happen, but it would raise flags and create immediate reaction. No system is perfect, and mistakes occur. But this nonsense about all this voter fraud bullshit is just that: Bullshit.
 
Again though, IT WAS CAUGHT - ergo, the control measures work!

which of the new measures make sure it doesn’t happen at all?

individual fraud/human error is easy to do. It’s doing it on a scale large enough to actually impact an election that’s nearly impossible today, with all of the controls that are in place.
The main provisions of the Georgia bill-what this thread is about- are adding a photocopy of a drivers license to your mail in ballot, disallowing the distribution of food and drink to voters, disallowing campaigns the ability to mail you an absentee ballot, and giving the state election boards ability to remove local election officials after multiple instances of malpractice among others. Those actions are wise and non-discriminatory.
 
but there ARE locks and controls in place. there was, and remains, no reason to doubt election integrity, save for injecting doubt by the GOPers themselves.
Yes, 12,000 is a relatively narrow margin of victory. You and the GOP STILL haven’t presented evidence that the integrity of the election was seriously compromised.
Because, other than Dems winning this time, there was no interruption in “voting integrity” in Georgia in 2020. At least there is nothing that can be proven.
 
The main provisions of the Georgia bill-what this thread is about- are adding a photocopy of a drivers license to your mail in ballot, disallowing the distribution of food and drink to voters, disallowing campaigns the ability to mail you an absentee ballot, and giving the state election boards ability to remove local election officials after multiple instances of malpractice among others. Those actions are wise and non-discriminatory.

What malpractice? Multiple instances of malpractice. This is fantasy. Fvck driver licenses. If any ID it should by NRA membership cards, and there should NO ID requirement to vote.

It's ironic that the psychotic wingnuts, who flame out on intrusion into citizens lives, insist on IDs. The difficulty imposed on those not having them is the obvious reason the right wing is so intent.

There is "NO" evidence the wingnuts can produce of voter irregularities of significant quantity or to justify the attention or ridiculous state initiated legislation to interfere with elections. And yes, Big Haw D-Port, it is interference and restriction, so stop playing dumb.

I have not read all states' legislations, but when they can arbitrarily take the responsibility and authority from local officials, it is authoritative and dystopian. The states that can literally determine the validity of the election results. This is not democracy. It is absolutely discriminatory.
 
Stories about 200 ballots counted twice. JFC. Ballots are serialized and recorded. They know when and if they are counted. And how many times. God Dam, is dumbness confined to the South?
 
Stories about 200 ballots counted twice. JFC. Ballots are serialized and recorded. They know when and if they are counted. And how many times. God Dam, is dumbness confined to the South?
I totally get that human error can result at times…but it’s like people think there are no quality checks in place to catch stuff like this, WHICH IT WAS. I can accept stuff getting scanned twice by mistake, and the mistake was caught so we know the controls work.

I don’t really care that much about IDs or not for voting, just show me the ballot issue they would prevent that we’re not already catching.
 
but there ARE locks and controls in place. there was, and remains, no reason to doubt election integrity, save for injecting doubt by the GOPers themselves.
Yes, 12,000 is a relatively narrow margin of victory. You and the GOP STILL haven’t presented evidence that the integrity of the election was seriously compromised.

...was at all compromised. All you have to do is lie, cheat and steal. The Orange Turd's, now the Republican party's way of conducting business.
 
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