Today was interesting to watch. The legislature also overrode a veto on a budget item today.
DeSantis vs. the Florida legislature
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They took away his power to appoint a deportation czar and gave it to the Sec of Agriculture.
What a giant FU from the legislature.
What a giant FU from the legislature.
Almost started a thread on this. I think DeSantis and his future political aspirations are ****ed. He is not well liked at all by many here in the GOP and Trump has no use for him and views him as a traitor for having the audacity of running against him in primary (and briefly being equal or higher than him in some very too early polls) so he has no landing spot in DC. He is a lame duck with two years left.
Good, he’s a fat ****ing hateful turd.
An immigration bill. I believe HB 1B. Not following the bill real closely.
Not sure. I think Ashley Moody has enough time to prove herself. She’s not a dimwit.
Democrat has a write up:
The bill, "Tackling & Reforming Unlawful Migration Policy," or TRUMP Act, is Florida legislative leaders' way of delivering on Trump's promises regarding illegal immigration.
The bill would cost over $500 million to implement, according to the bill's staff analysis. It still has much of what DeSantis proposed.
But in a big about-face, the Legislature shifted authority over state-level immigration enforcement from the governor to the commissioner of agriculture, which is currently held by Wilton Simpson, a Trilby Republican.
The bill would establish the agriculture commissioner as the state's chief immigration officer and create a State Immigration Enforcement Council, a board of seven county sheriffs tasked with providing recommendations to the state and to U.S. Immigrations and Customs Enforcement, or ICE.
"The guy is a leader, and there's nobody that wants to please President Trump more than Wilton Simpson, believe me," said Gruters, who's been dubbed the “OG” Trump supporter in Florida and also is now treasurer of the Republican National Committee.
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What is in the Florida Legislature's immigration bill?
The bill, "Tackling & Reforming Unlawful Migration Policy," or TRUMP Act, is Florida legislative leaders' way of delivering on Trump's promises regarding illegal immigration.In committee, Democrats in both the House and Senate tried to remove a measure that would repeal in-state tuition for immigrant students at public universities who entered the country illegally. But their amendments failed, with Republicans in the supermajority holding the line.
“We’re taking the benefits away. We’re not saying you can’t go to school. We’re just saying you’re not going to get in-state tuition,” said state Rep. Lawrence McClure, R-Dover, the House bill’s sponsor.
The bill also includes increasing penalties for voting for noncitizens, to a second-degree felony punishable by up to 15 years in prison from a third-degree felony (five years).
It also adds penalties if someone helps a noncitizen vote and it increases the penalties for a crime if the person has entered the country illegally.
In the Senate committee meeting, Pinellas County Sheriff Bob Gualtieri – also a Republican – said he would support the bill and that it was "good policy" for the state.
The bill walked back a part of DeSantis' agenda that would have mandated law enforcement's compliance with immigration officials and create penalties, including suspension of officials, if they didn't comply.
It was one of Albritton's sticking points about DeSantis' proposal. In the Senate president's speech Monday morning, he said he did not support creating criminal penalties against front-line officers.
Gualtieri assured Senate Democrats that the federal government's immigration enforcement was focused "100 percent" on people who have committed a crime, are a public safety or national security threat, and on people who have been removed but have returned to the country illegally.
You think Mills would get it over Moody, even with Moody having the advantage of being the incumbent who's been in the position for the prior two years? I'd be surprised by that unless things absolutely collapse in those two years.
My opinion is the odds would go Ron D, Mills, then moody. Moody lacks the staff and $$ raising machines the other two have.
Obviously shes now neck deep in the swamp and it’s a couple years away so she has a chance.
Rumors are abound that she’s interested. Donalds is grabbing all the Trump people though for his campaign.
I don't usually like telling people they are wrong but you are on this one.
I like Donalds and I’d vote for him. Casey DeSantis isn’t my idea of a qualified candidate, frankly.
Look for our Mayor Donna Deegan here in Jacksonville to run for the Democratic nomination.
And hope she doesn’t make it.
I would agree that desantis would be favored to win against Moody; I don't think Mills would, though.
She (Donna) may run, but she isn’t winning. Moskowitz is the Dems only hope in my opinion.
I thought she’d never win the Mayoral race either but her years of presenting herself as a news anchor really helps her in speaking in public and being an effective campaigner.
Sounds like Runny D has his panties in a wad over who gets to be in front of the cameras sucking up to trump in the immigration wars.
“The bill that the Legislature proposed mentioned agriculture 23 times. It did not mention deportation one time,” DeSantis said, adding that “liberal journalists that write in Tallahassee” are major proponents of the legislative product, and falsely claiming the Florida Democrats and the ACLU back the bill.
Sean Hannity’s viewers heard a variation on this theme.
“There’s swampy politics everywhere, and some of these legislative leaders foisted a different bill,” DeSantis said, adding the bill “takes power away from me … the power that I’m currently exercising now.”
floridapolitics.com
I'm fairly sure that the Simpson (the Ag commissioner) leaned on his friends in the Legislature to push the idea of his department overseeing things, figuring the attention will help in what will likely be a run for Gov next time around.
For the record, Simpson's a friend of mine who I've known since high school. I don't always agree with him politically, but he's a good guy who's always at least been willing to listen to opposing views.
“The bill that the Legislature proposed mentioned agriculture 23 times. It did not mention deportation one time,” DeSantis said, adding that “liberal journalists that write in Tallahassee” are major proponents of the legislative product, and falsely claiming the Florida Democrats and the ACLU back the bill.
Sean Hannity’s viewers heard a variation on this theme.
“There’s swampy politics everywhere, and some of these legislative leaders foisted a different bill,” DeSantis said, adding the bill “takes power away from me … the power that I’m currently exercising now.”
‘Fox in the henhouse’: Gov. DeSantis turns on Wilton Simpson in immigration fight
'The current commissioner,Wilton Simpson, has voted to give drivers licenses and in-state tuition to illegals.'
floridapolitics.com
I'm fairly sure that the Simpson (the Ag commissioner) leaned on his friends in the Legislature to push the idea of his department overseeing things, figuring the attention will help in what will likely be a run for Gov next time around.
For the record, Simpson's a friend of mine who I've known since high school. I don't always agree with him politically, but he's a good guy who's always at least been willing to listen to opposing views.
I'm kind of intrigued by the idea of putting it under Ag, as that's probably where a majority of the migrant labor demand resides, and they'd have some relationships/infrastructure in place to implement enforcement relative to anywhere else I can think of in the government.
Meatball Ron is having a cry-a-thon today in Ft Myers
WATCH LIVE: Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis speaks on new immigration law
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I'm hoping Simpson is the GQP nominee for governor. He will be plenty bad on most issues but he doesn't seem to be an insane sadistic a-hole like most Florida MAGAs.
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I would agree with that. He's gone a little too far into supporting Trump for my liking, but I think some of that is him correctly reading the political writing on the wall. I've talked politics with him quite a bit over the last 20 to 30 years, and he's been remarkably accurate in identifying who would do well in State and Federal elections through that time (for both parties).
I wasn’t very aware of who he is and I appreciate your sharing your personal knowledge of him. I’m keeping an eye on him now!
Wilton's a good guy; I've known him since high school many years ago & consider him a good friend. He's very sharp; was my area's State Senator for 10 years (got an extra term due to the change in district lines shortly after he won his first term), including serving as the Senate Pres the last two years. After terming out, he ran for & won the Ag commissioner spot that he's in now. He hasn't formally declared that he's running for Gov, but I'd be shocked if he doesn't. I'm fairly sure he ran for the Ag spot just to stay in the loop during Desantis 2nd term.
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