Devan Van Ness

[Chucksizzle1]

PWO with the only offer Butler. LOL, I’ll bet any amount of money this kid turns out to be a stud player for Iowa.

Hes only 6-1 195 as OLb, put up monster numbers In large class illinois FB, first team all state, ridiculous stats tackles, TFL and sacks.

college scouts are ridiculous. What he’s 6-1 not 6-2 so he can’t be offered ?

 

[Chucksizzle1]

Watch his hudl, he’s a monster. looks like a shorter, faster version of his brother. I don’t think he plays lb.

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

I do have to ask.......have you guys ever watched videos of these high 5 and 4 star recruits that we don't have a prayer of landing.........and then watch video of guys like Van Ness, and compare "monsters"?

 

[Chucksizzle1]

I do have to ask.......have you guys ever watched videos of these high 5 and 4 star recruits that we don't have a prayer of landing.........and then watch video of guys like Van Ness, and compare "monsters"?

They seem to leave Iowa as 5 stars headed for the nfl at a higher rate than those guys we don’t have a prayer of landing.

 

[Heathen Raider]

i wonder how He is in space because He is quick, has a motor and makes plays.

 

[Chucksizzle1]

i wonder how He is in space because He is quick, has a motor and makes plays.

He’s going to be a pass rusher, If he gets up to 245-250 he’s going to be a menace

 

[Heathen Raider]

He’s going to be a pass rusher, If he gets up to 245-250 he’s going to be a menace

Phil will find a spot, Kid is explosive which could translate to DE, Mike or even Safety/Cash if He has the speed. He is disruptive and makes plays, heck of a PWO pick up

 

[Franisdaman]

 

[Franisdaman]

Watch his hudl, he’s a monster. looks like a shorter, faster version of his brother. I don’t think he plays lb.

8 minutes here:

 

[hawkifann]

I do have to ask.......have you guys ever watched videos of these high 5 and 4 star recruits that we don't have a prayer of landing.........and then watch video of guys like Van Ness, and compare "monsters"?

Iowa coaches definitely don’t know much about developing guys to the NFL, so if they think he’s worthy of a shot, I just won’t trust it.

 

[IowaPeach]

Very nice sarcasim hawkifann. Much needed on this board from time to time.

 

[uihawk82]

8 minutes here:

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I only had to watch 1 minute of that vid to see amazingly quick feet and hands which is observerable and measurable. And then his acceleration looked quick to a straight up speed.

thanks for the vid, hope we get another 3 yr top van ness

 

[Mohawkeye]

PWO with the only offer Butler. LOL, I’ll bet any amount of money this kid turns out to be a stud player for Iowa.

Hes only 6-1 195 as OLb, put up monster numbers In large class illinois FB, first team all state, ridiculous stats tackles, TFL.

college scouts are ridiculous. What he’s 6-1 not 6-2 so he can’t be offered ?

Agree, if one brother is a stud you rarely see that much drop off to another brother. He may not be as good as his brother, but he will be trying to prove to everyone that he’s better. Great motivation.

 

[OILCHECKER]

Looks like a joe Evans starter kit to me.

 

[Drinkin Buddy]

I do have to ask.......have you guys ever watched videos of these high 5 and 4 star recruits that we don't have a prayer of landing.........and then watch video of guys like Van Ness, and compare "monsters"?

You make a good point. I wouldn't call the kid a monster, but I really like his motor.

He's a PWO, so needs more growth and development. The 4 and 5 star guys are easy to spot, and many of them have peaked early then level off.

This kid has a good frame and lineage. He may not be done growing in terms of height. Looks to have a lengthy build.

Recruiting is a funny business. I went through it way back when, and a couple of the most curious but understandable things coaches do is 1) meet your parents to see their size and 2) lock in on your hands when you have the initial greeting.

This helps them understand your potential from a size and growth perspective, i.e., how they can build you up.

It's not a proven science, and only one of many evaluation pieces, but it's pretty damn important when your dealing with the 2 & 3 stars.

I like this kid's film. The price is right. Let's see what he can do.

 

[Heathen Raider]

Looks like a joe Evans starter kit to me.

I saw a Guy who puts on 30 pounds and is a high level Mike Myself

 

[HIWILLE]

I do have to ask.......have you guys ever watched videos of these high 5 and 4 star recruits that we don't have a prayer of landing.........and then watch video of guys like Van Ness, and compare "monsters"?

Yeah I just watched Van Ness and looks to be a 4 star to me.

 

[hawkosx]

Geez, so he had about 90 sacks or what?

He’s going to be a pass rusher, If he gets up to 245-250 he’s going to be a menace

 

[herkyhawk00]

He’s going to be a pass rusher, If he gets up to 245-250 he’s going to be a menace

Wouldn’t doubt if he might grow a little further, also. Lukas was 6’5.

 

[cmhawks99]

Here is a rule of thumb on recruiting. If a kid plays his Freshman year and then is in the NFL by the end of his true JR year he was drastically misranked. We have had a shit ton of those.

Another one….yes, if you can sign 10 plus 4 stars a year, then the stars add up and you have a greater chance of success. Unfortunately only a few can do these consistently.

But on a case by case basis it appears a savy “recruiter” is better at picking 4 star talent than the services.at least at some positions, like we are.

 

[Chucksizzle1]

Geez, so he had about 90 sacks or what?

16 sacks, 30 TFL. if anyone thinks this kid is a low 2 star they are too stupid to watch and evaluate college players.

 

[cmhawks99]

16 sacks, 30 TFL. if anyone thinks this kid is a low 2 star they are too stupid to watch and evaluate college players.

I honestly don’t know how anyone can accurately gauge the best 2500 players. Top 100ish sure….with some variance but you can’t tell me a 5.6 3-star who plays 3 sports in Iowa is automatically “less” than a 5.8 football only kid from Texas.

It would be one thing if they were truly better athletes but for people that follow the Draft, combines, & Pro Days like I do…..know Iowa fields a very fast active defense.

Josie Jewell is the slowest linebacker we have put in the NFL in a long time and he is still there!

Mid three star Jack Campbell ran a 4.58, three star, Luka Van Ness Ran a 4.58 and two star gray shirt, Riley, Moss, Ran a, 4.42….

Those are all top tier times & honestly just the tip of the iceberg!

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

Yeah I just watched Van Ness and looks to be a 4 star to me.

Well then we should have no problem winning the national championship.

 

[Chucksizzle1]

Well then we should have no problem winning the national championship.

no one is suggesting getting an elite edge as a PWO will win a national,championship, but it’ sure doesn’t hurt.

 

[Franisdaman]

Iowa coaches definitely don’t know much about developing guys to the NFL, so if they think he’s worthy of a shot, I just won’t trust it.

 

[Franisdaman]

Looks like a joe Evans starter kit to me.

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

no one is suggesting getting an elite edge as a PWO will win a national,championship, but it’ sure doesn’t hurt.

If it doesn't hurt then that means it helps, so you can't really be suggesting that it won't win a national championship now can you...........

 

[intrepodor]

Phil will find a spot, Kid is explosive which could translate to DE, Mike or even Safety/Cash if He has the speed. He is disruptive and makes plays, heck of a PWO pick up

Cash comes to my mind

 

[hoffmkr]

The best part of him being ”short” is he will be less likely to be drafted on “potential” like his brother. Lukas left Iowa before his best football. His brother will have to produce to go to NFL, hopefully he can do it.

 

[SA_Hawk]

I only had to watch 1 minute of that vid to see amazingly quick feet and hands which is observerable and measurable. And then his acceleration looked quick to a straight up speed.

thanks for the vid, hope we get another 3 yr top van ness

He has incredibly long arms like his brother.

 

[uihawk82]

He has incredibly long arms like his brother.

yeah, i have heard the arm reach is a big nfl measurable which makes sense

 

[TonyTheTiger.1865]

I think cash, difficult to build a player that short into a DE.

 

[nu2u]

PWO with the only offer Butler. LOL, I’ll bet any amount of money this kid turns out to be a stud player for Iowa.

Hes only 6-1 195 as OLb, put up monster numbers In large class illinois FB, first team all state, ridiculous stats tackles, TFL and sacks.

college scouts are ridiculous. What he’s 6-1 not 6-2 so he can’t be offered ?

I wouldn't bet against him. Iowa has a long tradition of finding under-recruited kids...... most recently Sam Laporta

LaPorta's college offer list (according to Rivals): Bowling Green, Yale, Eastern Michigan, Central Michigan, Northern Iowa, Illinois State, Western Illinois, Southern Illinois, and Lindenwood - mid-majors. He just set an NFL rookie record for TEs.

I remember going to a Brandon Valley SD game years ago and coming away impressed with a skinny tooth pick WR named VandeBerg. He later accepted an Iowa PWO over a ride from South Dakota State, became a 3 year starter at Iowa. Nearly the same sceanrio with Seth Benson (Sioux Falls Washington) who started like 30 games and racked up ton of tackles at LB for the Hawks.

 

[LIV4GOD]

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