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For some guys, absolutely. They don't otherwise learn when to just shut up and make a new plan, Stan. Some people don't listen (boys) so they have to feel. A sharp shot to the mouth is sometimes the very necessary educational tool to improve the smart ass's courtesy and politesse.

Of course its not OK to punch someone because you don't like what they have to say or look-unless ridiculing and taunting the person who eventually throws the punch because their hippie girl friend with unshaved legs and thicker pit hair than a man, for an hour or so. Said picked on hippie, being insulted in front of his girl friend or wife, could leave with the knowledge he'd let some smart ass drive him away-fleeing-or he could summon the pride to at least stand up to the taunting smart ass. You're the hippie, what do you do? Complaining to the manager probably won't help.

Its even OK to sucker punch someone if you know a confrontation is inevitable. Social circles are like small towns, news travels fast. You consistently hear someone much larger is going to kick your ass do you sit around and await the beat down, or do you launch a preemptive attack, best delivered from behind, to both overcome the big guy doing the threatening and let others know that you are not one to be threatened, lest others develop similar ideas in the unknowable future. Cops cannot help unless you were personally threatened and you cannot possibly predict every future situation in which you might find yourself nose to chin with some big guy that takes his romantic relationship far more seriously than his girl friend does where the big guy just kicks the shit out of you. Then the cops can do nothing but maybe call an ambulance. Maybe the big guy does 30 days but you've still got the broken nose and the bruised ribs.

You're the threatened smaller guy, what do you do?

Real world scenarios. Gotta make a decision in a matter of seconds.



Ahhhh, little mans disease. That explains a few things from you in this thread. Never suffered from it but saw it in action. The fight scene from Dazed and Confused comes to mind.
 
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For some guys, absolutely. They don't otherwise learn when to just shut up and make a new plan, Stan. Some people don't listen (boys) so they have to feel. A sharp shot to the mouth is sometimes the very necessary educational tool to improve the smart ass's courtesy and politesse.

Of course its not OK to punch someone because you don't like what they have to say or look-unless ridiculing and taunting the person who eventually throws the punch because their hippie girl friend with unshaved legs and thicker pit hair than a man, for an hour or so. Said picked on hippie, being insulted in front of his girl friend or wife, could leave with the knowledge he'd let some smart ass drive him away-fleeing-or he could summon the pride to at least stand up to the taunting smart ass. You're the hippie, what do you do? Complaining to the manager probably won't help.

Its even OK to sucker punch someone if you know a confrontation is inevitable. Social circles are like small towns, news travels fast. You consistently hear someone much larger is going to kick your ass do you sit around and await the beat down, or do you launch a preemptive attack, best delivered from behind, to both overcome the big guy doing the threatening and let others know that you are not one to be threatened, lest others develop similar ideas in the unknowable future. Cops cannot help unless you were personally threatened and you cannot possibly predict every future situation in which you might find yourself nose to chin with some big guy that takes his romantic relationship far more seriously than his girl friend does where the big guy just kicks the shit out of you. Then the cops can do nothing but maybe call an ambulance. Maybe the big guy does 30 days but you've still got the broken nose and the bruised ribs.

You're the threatened smaller guy, what do you do?

Real world scenarios. Gotta make a decision in a matter of seconds.



You're an idiot. Bye.
 
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For every 1 example of some guy hitting his head in a doomsday scenario there are 1000s guys who wake up every Saturday or Sunday morning with a fat lip that think "I was an ass last night". I hope the Kron family counters.
 
there was a similar case in MN. It was after bar closing. A bouncer was talking to a girl outside the bar. The jealous gal's boyfriend confronted him. Then someone out of nowhere hit the bouncer, knocking him out before his head hit pavement. Well, the bouncer's brain began to swell and they had to remove a portion of his skull to relieve the pressure. He now can't work and is having to relearn how to talk, walk, etc. His life will never be the same.

And imagine the life for the guy who threw the sucker punch. Legal bills, jail time, civil law suit, wage garnishments, etc.

Something similar happened to one of my brother’s friends. He was working at his Dad’s bar and was hit in the back of the head as they were escorting a couple of “patrons” out of the bar. He hit his head on the concrete and had some brain swelling. He now has memory issues and will never be the same.

This is one of the reasons I cannot buy into the “boys will be boys” excuse some are peddling. This does not excuse being an idiot, but violence is not the answer in most situations. I enjoy a good action movie more than many, but I am not looking to replicate what I see on the screen.
 
For every 1 example of some guy hitting his head in a doomsday scenario there are 1000s guys who wake up every Saturday or Sunday morning with a fat lip that think "I was an ass last night". I hope the Kron family counters.

So that makes it OK in your mind? I have an idea. Don’t be an idiot in the first place. I have done a lot of stupid crap in my time, most of it involving alcohol. I have not been in a fight since eighth grade though and do not expect that to change. I can guarantee you that this has nothing to do with maturity and the wisdom that comes with age, as I am sure my wife would attest.
 
You're an idiot. Bye.
There is an idiot in this conversation-the guy that call others idiots frequently. I'll bet you look cute in your braces and boots, with a handful of grease in your hair.

I think you're more on the bully end of the spectrum. Had this conversation occurred in a bar after one of us had done a bottle of tequila and a handful of whites the outcome might not have ended with me simply asking your dress size.
 
There is an idiot in this conversation-the guy that call others idiots frequently. I'll bet you look cute in your braces and boots, with a handful of grease in your hair.

I think you're more on the bully end of the spectrum. Had this conversation occurred in a bar after one of us had done a bottle of tequila and a handful of whites the outcome might not have ended with me simply asking your dress size.
God you love to hear yourself talk.
 
God you love to hear yourself talk.

Then why poke the bear, "little" when you could just ignore me? But get back to me when you have something a little more pithy. I've been out of Jr HS since 1974. I lack nostalgia for the simple minded taunting of early adolescents.
 
Ahhhh, little mans disease. That explains a few things from you in this thread. Never suffered from it but saw it in action. The fight scene from Dazed and Confused comes to mind.
It's not little man's disease, its pride. Sometimes pride is worth the ass kicking, you leave a little messy but you at least know you're not a coward.

You could not have picked a better movie scene to prove my point. Do you remember the conversation in the car after the battle?


Mike : [after the fight with Clint] I got some good ones in there, right? I mean, you wouldn't say I got my ass kicked, would you?
Cynthia : Oh no, I mean, after a few years, no one will even remember really, who won or lost.
Mike : Right, like when you read about Hemingway and those guys, no one ever talks about who won, just they got in a brawl.

Mike's ass was kicked but his pride and self esteem grew from knowing he stood his ground and fought back against a bully. Kind of what I've been saying. Those are the things that toughen up men for the more consequential, albeit non violent, battles that will come their way as they go through life. You do understand that don't you? It is not little man's disease (was the irony of "littlez" not lost on you?) if a little guy stands his ground when bullied rather than submit to the bullying?

It's little man's disease when a little guy thinks he's tough enough to fight the big guy for no reason except the stupid idea of proving one's self worth by taking down the tough guy. That is especially stupid if the tough guy isn't doing anything to them that would naturally tend to provoke a violent response. Like BB Hawk and littlez engaging me in battle of wits because they just had to say some personally insulting rather than either ignoring me or presenting some intelligent thought as the error in my thinking. That's perfect example of little man's disease.

I hope you three silly mice don't block me. You are ever so much fun playthings and I'd hate to think we weren't friends.​
 
It's not little man's disease, its pride. Sometimes pride is worth the ass kicking, you leave a little messy but you at least know you're not a coward.

You could not have picked a better movie scene to prove my point. Do you remember the conversation in the car after the battle?


Mike : [after the fight with Clint] I got some good ones in there, right? I mean, you wouldn't say I got my ass kicked, would you?
Cynthia : Oh no, I mean, after a few years, no one will even remember really, who won or lost.
Mike : Right, like when you read about Hemingway and those guys, no one ever talks about who won, just they got in a brawl.

Mike's ass was kicked but his pride and self esteem grew from knowing he stood his ground and fought back against a bully. Kind of what I've been saying. Those are the things that toughen up men for the more consequential, albeit non violent, battles that will come their way as they go through life. You do understand that don't you? It is not little man's disease (was the irony of "littlez" not lost on you?) if a little guy stands his ground when bullied rather than submit to the bullying?

It's little man's disease when a little guy thinks he's tough enough to fight the big guy for no reason except the stupid idea of proving one's self worth by taking down the tough guy. That is especially stupid if the tough guy isn't doing anything to them that would naturally tend to provoke a violent response. Like BB Hawk and littlez engaging me in battle of wits because they just had to say some personally insulting rather than either ignoring me or presenting some intelligent thought as the error in my thinking. That's perfect example of little man's disease.

I hope you three silly mice don't block me. You are ever so much fun playthings and I'd hate to think we weren't friends.​
No worries, no blocking from me. Not sure how I got lumped with bb and little but it is what it is. I am not sure that the former football player was standing his ground against the soft as butter jbo. Hopefully you didn't think I was personally insulting you, just sharing my opinion that some of your comments about how you have gotten yourself involved in some scuffles reflect some characteristics of someone who has the little mans disease.
Here is a csb moment. I am working downtown as a bouncer, a football player who went on to play in the NFL and who checked in about 6'3" 245 had recently had his banishment lifted from one of the big bars on the ped mall. He is out on the dance floor with a lady and a rather small guy pinches the girls backside. Unfortunately I was the only bouncer in the area and the only one to see it. NFL guy asks the lady if she knew the guy, she says 'no' and NFL tells the little guy to 'f'n knock it off' and calls him an 'a**hole'. Little guy summons all of the 'pride' that he could and starts slowly going towards the NFL guy, as I step between them he amazingly gathered 'more pride' as he starts yelling at the guy 'you can't call me an a**hole'. He refuses to settle down and has to be escorted from the bar. As I have him in a bear hug and carrying him out the peanut gallery wants to know why I didn't throw the big guy out.
You may call it pride but some people are just jackwagons. If you want to think that it was jbo being the bully or that your scuffles are all about 'pride' so be it. On a side note, people will and do remember who wins a fight, not just that there was one.
 
No worries, no blocking from me. Not sure how I got lumped with bb and little but it is what it is. I am not sure that the former football player was standing his ground against the soft as butter jbo. Hopefully you didn't think I was personally insulting you, just sharing my opinion that some of your comments about how you have gotten yourself involved in some scuffles reflect some characteristics of someone who has the little mans disease.
Here is a csb moment. I am working downtown as a bouncer, a football player who went on to play in the NFL and who checked in about 6'3" 245 had recently had his banishment lifted from one of the big bars on the ped mall. He is out on the dance floor with a lady and a rather small guy pinches the girls backside. Unfortunately I was the only bouncer in the area and the only one to see it. NFL guy asks the lady if she knew the guy, she says 'no' and NFL tells the little guy to 'f'n knock it off' and calls him an 'a**hole'. Little guy summons all of the 'pride' that he could and starts slowly going towards the NFL guy, as I step between them he amazingly gathered 'more pride' as he starts yelling at the guy 'you can't call me an a**hole'. He refuses to settle down and has to be escorted from the bar. As I have him in a bear hug and carrying him out the peanut gallery wants to know why I didn't throw the big guy out.
You may call it pride but some people are just jackwagons. If you want to think that it was jbo being the bully or that your scuffles are all about 'pride' so be it. On a side note, people will and do remember who wins a fight, not just that there was one.

Nope, that was straight up drunk little man's disease. The dude in Dazed and Confused was picking on Mike, not just telling him to **** off but bullying repeatedly. Big difference. Although that first remark usually escalates when drunk young men are in close proximity and both obviously interested in the same chick.

I grew up in bars and night clubs-family owned them. I've seen every kind bar behavior you can imagine. Think about the difference. Of course, the NFL players size was intimidating and I sure as hell wouldn't consider being told to **** off as demeaning and especially not as threatening. Plus probably shouldn't be touching the ass of NFLs dance partner-or really any other girl you don't know.

I never intentionally picked a fight just to pick a fight, I'm a cosmopolitan and sophisticate-I watch Steven Sondheim musical theater and even have read Bronte sisters' novels. Now, when intoxicated I did, on a few occasions, get inside someone's head that was noticeably larger than me and perhaps I did not notice or appreciate either their size or their growing rage-cuz I usually had a bunch of people laughing and the more they laughed the more fun I had so I would dial up the smart ass even louder. So the big guys would either just start fighting by swinging or otherwise attacking me or getting that nose to chin perspective from which withdrawal is not an option, unless the other guy walks away first, or someone intervenes. Those are the situations where pride is involved. Although I confess I never really resisted intervention, well once, if it came in a losing situation for the then not so Old Dog.

Don't you suppose every step you took toward the door that little jerk off became more grateful to be thrown out?

 
That’s back when if you had a beef with someone it was just the two of you and there were people to make sure it stayed that way. Today you have people walking in from the side and sucker punching you.
Actually that's not really true. Sucker punches have always been a thing.

But I would agree that people were allowed to fight things one-on-one when they had a disagreement. In fact, fighting was actually a pretty agreed upon societal way of handling personal disagreements
I really don't think bohannon was sucker punched either. He saw it coming. A sucker punch is when you don't see it coming at all
 
This thread has not turned into "when to sucker punch" and "when to not sucker punch". And sucker punches now vs sucker punches back in the 'good ole days'!!
 
My eyes rolled so far back in my head they fell out on the floor. It's almost as if you likely have a one-sided agenda here.

It's well established that bohannon is a little bit of a douchebag. I have a little doubt he was being a douchebag and you can absolutely see in the video that he was being a douchebag. That's not even debatable
It's not one sided. It's an objective look. None of the rumors from that evening have panned out or been substantiated by anyone with any credibility whatsoever. How is it well established that Jordan's a douchebag? That my friend is one sided agenda that frankly isn't true nor can be proven. If JB is such a huge doucher - how do you explain his friendship with other athletes in the B1G? His guests on his podcast? I roll my eyes right back at ya.
 
That’s back when if you had a beef with someone it was just the two of you and there were people to make sure it stayed that way. Today you have people walking in from the side and sucker punching you.
It happened back then too. Maybe you missed that back in the day
 
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I was in a bar with a buddy in 1979..... this drunken idiot just kept poking and poking my friend.... he took it a long time asked the guy to back off..... guy kept at it..... finally he squared up to the guy and said check this out held a quarter up in the air and when the guy looked up he knocked his ass out..... and we left..... if you’re going to kick some assholes ass why not just be quick and clean about it..... not mess up your clothes
my point is ....don’t be an asshole
 
I was in a bar with a buddy in 1979..... this drunken idiot just kept poking and poking my friend.... he took it a long time asked the guy to back off..... guy kept at it..... finally he squared up to the guy and said check this out held a quarter up in the air and when the guy looked up he knocked his ass out..... and we left..... if you’re going to kick some assholes ass why not just be quick and clean about it..... not mess up your clothes
my point is ....don’t be an asshole

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It's not one sided. It's an objective look. None of the rumors from that evening have panned out or been substantiated by anyone with any credibility whatsoever. How is it well established that Jordan's a douchebag? That my friend is one sided agenda that frankly isn't true nor can be proven. If JB is such a huge doucher - how do you explain his friendship with other athletes in the B1G? His guests on his podcast? I roll my eyes right back at ya.
Lol. No, it's pretty well established the kid is kind of a douchebag.

You think every douchebag has zero friends? You think every douchebag athlete doesn't have fans?

What the hell are you even talking about?
 
It's not one sided. It's an objective look. None of the rumors from that evening have panned out or been substantiated by anyone with any credibility whatsoever. How is it well established that Jordan's a douchebag? That my friend is one sided agenda that frankly isn't true nor can be proven. If JB is such a huge doucher - how do you explain his friendship with other athletes in the B1G? His guests on his podcast? I roll my eyes right back at ya.
Ask any of the parking attendants on campus what they think about Jordan.
 
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