Disturbing voting experience

[Lone Clone]

It wouldn't bother liberals, probably but I voted early today and I could have been anybody. Was not asked to identify myself other than give them my name and address. It wasn't in my usual precinct, so I didn't know anybody working there and nobody knew me.

That's effing crazy.

Having said that, it was pretty busy. This was at about 1:15 at Iowa City. They had five people handling sign-ups and there was a brief wait.

 

[CarolinaHawkeye]

Was it like that all five times?

 

[Menace Sockeyes]

I was disturbed most by the part where OP said, "I voted". *shudder*

 

[Lone Clone]

Was it like that all five times?

No. The time I said I was Lisa Bluder, one of them seemed suspicious.

 

[tarheelbybirth]

It wouldn't bother liberals, probably but I voted early today and I could have been anybody. Was not asked to identify myself other than give them my name. It wasn't in my usual precinct, so I didn't know anybody working there and nobody knew me.

That's effing crazy.

Having said that, it was pretty busy. This was at about 1:15 at Iowa City. They had five people handling sign-ups and there was a brief wait.

Didn't ask for your address?

 

[Lone Clone]

Didn't ask for your address?

Yes...I guess I didn't mention that. I'll edit my post. But it's a moot thing. They didn't ask for anything that would prove it. Anybody who knew my address could have voted in my name.

 

[prlyles]

It wouldn't bother liberals, probably but I voted early today and I could have been anybody. Was not asked to identify myself other than give them my name. It wasn't in my usual precinct, so I didn't know anybody working there and nobody knew me.

That's effing crazy.

Having said that, it was pretty busy. This was at about 1:15 at Iowa City. They had five people handling sign-ups and there was a brief wait.

How is that different than usual? I've been voting for as long as you have and that is the only thing I've ever had to give. Wait, I take that back, after I give my name they will ask me if I live at my address and I say yes.

 

[SSG T]

Did they verify your name against voter registrations? If they didn't, that's a far bigger deal

 

[dgordo]

Yes...I guess I didn't mention that. I'll edit my post. But it's a moot thing. They didn't ask for anything that would prove it. Anybody who knew my address could have voted in my name.

that would be a felony

 

[tumorboy]

You're old and white so it's all right.

 

[SSG T]

How is that different than usual? I've been voting for as long as you have and that is the only thing I've ever had to give. Wait, I take that back, after I give my name they will ask me if I live at my address and I say yes.

I gave my name, they checked my registration, then asked for my current address.

 

[Lone Clone]

Did they verify your name against voter registrations? If they didn't, that's a far bigger deal

I assume so, but some of you are either missing the point or intentionally ignoring it. They confirmed that Lone Clone of a specific address was registered. What they had no idea about is whether the guy they gave a ballot was Lone Clone.

 

[Lone Clone]

You're old and white so it's all right.

Racist.

 

[SSG T]

that would be a felony

Good guy with a vote would stop him

 

[tarheelbybirth]

Yes...I guess I didn't mention that. I'll edit my post. But it's a moot thing. They didn't ask for anything that would prove it. Anybody who knew my address could have voted in my name.

And you signed for it...right?

 

[SSG T]

I assume so, but some of you are either missing the point or intentionally ignoring it. They confirmed that Lone Clone of a specific address was registered. What they had no idea about is whether the guy they gave a ballot was Lone Clone.

No I got your point, I was ignoring it because it's not a good point. The bigger deal is people who aren't registered to vote actually voting.

 

[tumorboy]

Racist.

Always

 

[Pepperman]

that would be a felony

Ok, but how is anybody going to know it was LC that committed this felonious act?

I think technology is going to have to eventually be used at voting booths - facial recognition perhaps?

 

[SSG T]

And you signed for it...right?

If he did, it's a felony since I can verify he isn't Lone Clone...he's torbee.

 

[SSG T]

Ok, but how is anybody going to know it was LC that committed this felonious act?

I think technology is going to have to eventually be used at voting booths - facial recognition perhaps?

When LC shows up, asks for a ballot, they say "wait, you voted already" and he whips out his ID.

 

[HKI]

It wouldn't bother liberals, probably but I voted early today and I could have been anybody. Was not asked to identify myself other than give them my name and address. It wasn't in my usual precinct, so I didn't know anybody working there and nobody knew me.

That's effing crazy.

Having said that, it was pretty busy. This was at about 1:15 at Iowa City. They had five people handling sign-ups and there was a brief wait.

How is that crazy? Are you thinking the precinct will explode if another "you" shows up to vote?

How did you know you wouldn't be voting? Oh, because its you.

Why does every "voter id" claim essentially ignore the other aspects of voting, like registration? Of course YOU can "trick" the system, you know everything about you. Are you really thinking your neighbor was also going to vote as you, but chose not to?

 

[Bro D]

I went to the library to vote and it was the same. I could have said I was anybody. Blows my mind you don't need a driver's license to vote.

 

[HKI]

When LC shows up, asks for a ballot, they say "wait, you voted already" and he whips out his ID.

Bingo, duh. As far as prosecuting the first culprit voter? That may be more difficult, but the sanctity of the vote has still been protected.

 

[HKI]

I went to the library to vote and it was the same. I could have said I was anybody. Blows my mind you don't need a driver's license to vote.

Serious question:

If it turned out that this was all secretly monitored and verified that every vote was 100% legally cast, would it assuage your concern? Or would it still blow your mind?

 

[Lone Clone]

Bingo, duh. As far as prosecuting the first culprit voter? That may be more difficult, but the sanctity of the vote has still been protected.

Except the other guy's ballot is still there to be counted.

Actually, in this case, because I voted early -- which is essentially the same thing as voting absentee -- they could find the illegal ballot and destroy it, because it's in an envelope with the voter's name on it.

However, that safeguard doesn't exist for false voting on Election Day. When I get there to vote, and am told I already voted, I can show my ID and eventually be allowed to cast a ballot. But the guy who assumed my identify earlier has already voted and there's no way to determine which ballot in the box is his.

 

[JMNSHO]

That's pretty much how it has always been for me. I don't see a problem with it. As was mentioned, misrepresenting yourself would be a felony.

Disturbing would be if they said "I'm sorry, it looks like you have already voted"--which would be a pretty common occurrence if the kind of voter fraud op is worried about ever actually happened. I've never heard of it happening.

 

[tarheelbybirth]

I went to the library to vote and it was the same. I could have said I was anybody. Blows my mind you don't need a driver's license to vote.

A driver's license? Like this one?

 

[HKI]

Except the other guy's ballot is still there to be counted.

Wait, back up. Are you saying that there would be no stopping the vote in your place? They would only add on another vote? Is that your belief?

 

[SSG T]

I went to the library to vote and it was the same. I could have said I was anybody. Blows my mind you don't need a driver's license to vote.

And yet, they find very few cases of voter fraud and the ones they do find, generally, have to do with improper registration not someone walking up and voting under the wrong name.

 

[ThorneStockton]

Did you used to get ID'd?

 

[tarheelbybirth]

Except the other guy's ballot is still there to be counted.

Is this the very first time you voted? You seem to be unfamiliar with the usual protocols.

 

[Bro D]

Serious question:

If it turned out that this was all secretly monitored and verified that every vote was 100% legally cast, would it assuage your concern? Or would it still blow your mind?

I would assume there isn't much voter fraud and it's not a hot-button issue in my mind... I just think it's dumb that you don't need an ID to vote.

 

[HKI]

Except the other guy's ballot is still there to be counted.

Actually, in this case, because I voted early -- which is essentially the same thing as voting absentee -- they could find the illegal ballot and destroy it, because it's in an envelope with the voter's name on it.

However, that safeguard doesn't exist for false voting on Election Day. When I get there to vote, and am told I already voted, I can show my ID and eventually be allowed to cast a ballot. But the guy who assumed my identify earlier has already voted and there's no way to determine which ballot in the box is his.

I see you edited to agree that ballot would not count. Then you again claimed it would.

 

[Lone Clone]

Wait, back up. Are you saying that there would be no stopping the vote in your place? They would only add on another vote? Is that your belief?

You didn't read the whole reply to your question.

 

[birthhawk]

Current state of Republican voters about, well, everything:

 

[HKI]

I would assume there isn't much voter fraud and it's not a hot-button issue in my mind... I just think it's dumb that you don't need an ID to vote.

But if it was verified as a non-problem, why would it be dumb? Obviously you could disagree with determining it a non-problem, but you seem to think its dumb, even if not a problem. Which seems odd that a non-problem would ever be "dumb".

 

[HKI]

You didn't read the whole reply to your question.

I did prior to you editing it, then I responded to your edit. Don't put that on me.

 

[BelemNole]

We get about 40% participation for midterm elections and you think hordes of people are out there pretending to be you? Seriously, is the republican party built entirely on unreasonable fears?

 

[HawkeyeGold]

It wouldn't bother liberals, probably but I voted early today and I could have been anybody. Was not asked to identify myself other than give them my name and address. It wasn't in my usual precinct, so I didn't know anybody working there and nobody knew me.

That's effing crazy.

Having said that, it was pretty busy. This was at about 1:15 at Iowa City. They had five people handling sign-ups and there was a brief wait.

Of course.

 

[Bro D]

But if it was verified as a non-problem, why would it be dumb? Obviously you could disagree with determining it a non-problem, but you seem to think its dumb, even if not a problem. Which seems odd that a non-problem would ever be "dumb".

Touche I guess