OT I think. The DL was from D2, NWMissouri State I think.Not sure if O or D Tackle but it sounds like Iowa was hosting a 340 pound tackle from Rice earlier this week so they are looking to add bigger players if they look like the right type of player.
Maybe I’m misremembering, but we often had DTs bigger than the current ones that are 300, and 317?In the Norm years I recall having a bigger DL or two and we used to be almost impervious to inside runs. We also gave up a boatload of passing yards with a usually non-existent pass-rush and we seemed to not be aggressive with CBs. After Phil took over we seem to have slimmed on the Dline and play a bit more aggressive pass defense but can be overpowered at the los particularly on 3rd and short type situations.
at that time a 325lber DT like Colin cole would be tough for opposing ols to move. now the ol are far more massiveMaybe I’m misremembering, but we often had DTs bigger than the current ones that are 300, and 317?
Not well at all.This reminds me of FXL who wanted lean lineman who would “out quick “ opponents. How did that work? lol
This cracked me up! Solid work JonesyI prefer skinny tackles that can easily squeeze between the offensive linemen.
Idk let me break out my film projector to check the tapes.This reminds me of FXL who wanted lean lineman who would “out quick “ opponents. How did that work? lol
Deeper than this, I have heard Lester has been vocal about practicing against what we face, and that hasn't always been how Iowa operated.Not sure if O or D Tackle but it sounds like Iowa was hosting a 340 pound tackle from Rice earlier this week so they are looking to add bigger players if they look like the right type of player.
Are you sure 3-3-5 isn't just their normal yearly record?Nebraska uses a 3-3-5 so their d tackles have to eat a little more space.
Burghawk please don't. I was there.. I still think the projector would catch fire showing film of the 1973 Iowa defense coordinated by Ducky Lewis. Let's hope we never ever go back there.Idk let me break out my film projector to check the tapes.
Burghawk please don't. I was there.. I still think the projector would catch fire showing film of the 1973 Iowa defense coordinated by Ducky Lewis. Let's hope we never ever go back there.
I was at that game. Parents were NW alums, and sister was a NW pom-pom girl (no pics, which would have featured 70s hair, anyway). John Pont's first year after a semi-successful Indiana gig, while Alex Agassi had bolted NW for Purdue.
This simply isn't accurate...yes, you'll find a lot of heavy guys at 1 tech in 3-3/3-4...but it's not even the weight...it's the wide body who can get low enough to neutralize two blockers so others can get to the football...many are heavyThe teams that have the mammoth DTs are typically 3-4 or 3-3-5 defenses where you need that space eating NT.
Iowa has typically preferred lighter DTs that can flow to the ball carrier better.
Occassionally, Iowa will have a Carl Davis or Colin Cole, but for every one of them, they also have a Matt Kroul or a Karl Klug, undersized DTs that had good speed and could get to the ball carrier quicker.
Not sure there's a right or wrong answer.....it's just what Phil prefers.
Very nice!Are you sure 3-3-5 isn't just their normal yearly record?
DL is, by far, the hardest position in football to find quality guys, much less big boys. It's still easier to find the 6'2" 265 lb guy that in 2 years you can get to 290, than it is finding the 300+ lb guys. It's a numbers game as much as anything.This simply isn't accurate...yes, you'll find a lot of heavy guys at 1 tech in 3-3/3-4...but it's not even the weight...it's the wide body who can get low enough to neutralize two blockers so others can get to the football...many are heavy
Every 4-3 looks for 340lb disrupters... EVERY single one ...hell...if you could find a 340lb 4.3 6'10" CB with great hips everyone would sign him....but that doesn't exist
As I said above...the 340+/- DL that can move are no longer and anomaly...and no longer just the domain of the top recruiters ...there are more out there now but many are projects
And Colin Cole was given a generous height of 6 feet in the game program. I was by him on the field, he had his helmet off after a big win and he barely beat my 5' 11" height. talk about a low center of massat that time a 325lber DT like Colin cole would be tough for opposing ols to move. now the ol are far more massive
Didn't he present Iowa fans with a "perfect" season in '73?This reminds me of FXL who wanted lean lineman who would “out quick “ opponents. How did that work? lol
The D is slow and soft enough most years that is why cannot compete with good teams. 0-35 says it all the past few years. 49-3 will be telling next few years. Going to be a long decade. Next year will be awful.Black and Graves are big but Nebby, UCLA, and a few other big teams had some really large, athletic, heavy DTackles this year and in recent years. Do we like our DTackles in the 29-310 lb range for mobility and pass rush rather than run stuffing?
If this was 20 years ago I would agree with you...you are datedDL is, by far, the hardest position in football to find quality guys, much less big boys. It's still easier to find the 6'2" 265 lb guy that in 2 years you can get to 290, than it is finding the 300+ lb guys. It's a numbers game as much as anything.
I'm going to share a graphic with you and don't stop at the first name...go at least to #4 (spoiler: Iowa)DL is, by far, the hardest position in football to find quality guys, much less big boys. It's still easier to find the 6'2" 265 lb guy that in 2 years you can get to 290, than it is finding the 300+ lb guys. It's a numbers game as much as anything.
Your memory is (somewhat) off.In the Norm years I recall having a bigger DL or two and we used to be almost impervious to inside runs. We also gave up a boatload of passing yards with a usually non-existent pass-rush and we seemed to not be aggressive with CBs. After Phil took over we seem to have slimmed on the Dline and play a bit more aggressive pass defense but can be overpowered at the los particularly on 3rd and short type situations.
To answer the OP ... athletic DTs who are around 340 are mostly pretty rare ... and when they are around, all the big-dogs are high in their recruitment. Those guys are usually 4- to 5-star recruits ... so everyone is recruiting them.Black and Graves are big but Nebby, UCLA, and a few other big teams had some really large, athletic, heavy DTackles this year and in recent years. Do we like our DTackles in the 29-310 lb range for mobility and pass rush rather than run stuffing?
Coaches may like a business trip to our very own states of Hawaii and places like California, Arizona, Nevada, etc. for those big Polynesians.Maybe Iowa should be targeting American Somoa and Japan (think sumo wrestlers) for those big boys with quick feet. Kinda like going Down Under for punters.
Ahhhhh, wrong kind of perfect, and I witnessed a few of those games. Cheap tix if I remember lolDidn't he present Iowa fans with a "perfect" season in '73?