Does anyone want to talk about the economic consequences for taking in the Syrian refugees?

[NoleSoup4U]

This issue, along with the linked social issue, is what bothers me more than the threat of violence, and every time I bring it up in a thread, nobody will try to defend it. So, who on here thinks that it's worth it to put more pressure on the poor and middle class in order to accommodate the refugees?

And on top of that, who doesn't think that this won't breed animosity between said poor and middle class for the refugees who are essentially making life harder for them?

 

[cigaretteman]

Yes, I'm sure taking in the allotted 10,000-15,000 refugees will overrun and devastate our economy.

 

[Huey Grey]

Yes, I'm sure taking in the allotted 10,000-15,000 refugees will overrun and devastate our economy.

At least as much as Obamacare did...Oh, wait...

 

[NoleSoup4U]

Yes, I'm sure taking in the allotted 10,000-15,000 refugees will overrun and devastate our economy.

I've seen reports for taking in a whole lot more than that. Even if it is "only" 10,000, that still impacts inflation, which in turn impacts the poor and middle class.

 

[The Tradition]

I've seen reports for taking in a whole lot more than that. Even if it is "only" 10,000, that still impacts inflation, which in turn impacts the poor and middle class.

Not sure how it impacts inflation, but a bunch of new unskilled workers can't be good for the low end of the labor market. And even if they're educated, they can't get licensed to work in their profession over here, so, back to competing with the Mexicans for jobs again.

 

[NoleSoup4U]

At least as much as Obamacare did...Oh, wait...

Is that why my premiums, even with the tax breaks, are double what my premium was before the ACA was enacted?

I'll never understand why you anti-1%ers were ever so enamored with a policy that sold us all out to the corporate insurance companies who ARE 1%ers. You people are the living embodiment of Einstein's definition of insanity.

 

[Huey Grey]

I've seen reports for taking in a whole lot more than that. Even if it is "only" 10,000, that still impacts inflation, which in turn impacts the poor and middle class.

Inflation is super low right now, Einstein.

 

[Huey Grey]

Is that why my premiums, even with the tax breaks, are double what my premium was before the ACA was enacted?

I'll never understand why you anti-1%ers were ever so enamored with a policy that sold us all out to the corporate insurance companies who ARE 1%ers. You people are the living embodiment of Einstein's definition of insanity.

Point went right over your head, didn't it?

 

[cigaretteman]

Inflation is super low right now, Einstein.

Yep, with no sign of it increasing, even though that would actually be good for the economy.

 

[Huey Grey]

Not sure how it impacts inflation, but a bunch of new unskilled workers can't be good for the low end of the labor market. And even if they're educated, they can't get licensed to work in their profession over here, so, back to competing with the Mexicans for jobs again.

If only we would have passed Keystone, all of our employment problems would have been solved. Darn it!

 

[NoleSoup4U]

Inflation is super low right now, Einstein.

You realize that how the government calculates inflation is a crock of shit, right? For one thing, they don't account for inelastic goods.

 

[Huey Grey]

You realize that how the government calculates inflation is a crock of shit, right? For one thing, they don't account for inelastic goods.

They should have called you. Bet this whole inflation thing would have been solved over breakfast.

 

[The Tradition]

Maybe we could employ all the Syrians to build Trump's border wall?

 

[NoleSoup4U]

They should have called you. Bet this whole inflation thing would have been solved over breakfast.

Keep making snarky comments, it just shows that you have no answers. You accept what the government tells you on faith, which is why you're a true believer and no different from any other religious zealot.

 

[Huey Grey]

Keep making snarky comments, it just shows that you have no answers. You accept what the government tells you on faith, which is why you're a true believer and no different from any other religious zealot.

You refuse to accept the very plain fact that inflation is low right now, and I'm the one without answers. What world are you living in?

 

[NoleSoup4U]

You refuse to accept the very plain fact that inflation is low right now, and I'm the one without answers. What world are you living in?

No, I'm telling you that they fudge the numbers in order to make inflation seem lower than what it really is. How can you calculate inflation if you only include some prices and not all prices?

 

[cigaretteman]

You refuse to accept the very plain fact that inflation is low right now, and I'm the one without answers. What world are you living in?

He's one of those deficit scolds who's sure that inflation is going to be going through the roof any moment now, despite all the evidence against it and no matter how many times such predictions have been proven utterly wrong,

 

[NoleSoup4U]

He's one of those deficit scolds who's sure that inflation is going to be going through the roof any moment now, despite all the evidence against it and no matter how many times such predictions have been proven utterly wrong,

Maybe you can answer my question then, since you're obviously so smart. If you were trying to figure out if prices were rising, why would you leave out certain prices?

 

[Greenway12]

Fair question. To all pro-refugee folks: who do you think pays for their health care, housing, schooling, etc...? How much is paid for by the federal gov't (all taxpayers) and how much by state and local taxpayers? What is the total cost per refugee?

 

[The Tradition]

 

[22*43*51]

No economic consequences.

Stuff is "free".

 

[NoleSoup4U]

Point went right over your head, didn't it?

What point were you trying to make? You made a sarcastic comment about the ACA not having any economic blowback, which is wholly untrue.

 

[MichiganManLifer]

Is that why my premiums, even with the tax breaks, are double what my premium was before the ACA was enacted?

I'll never understand why you anti-1%ers were ever so enamored with a policy that sold us all out to the corporate insurance companies who ARE 1%ers. You people are the living embodiment of Einstein's definition of insanity.

They're failures. What else do you expect from them?

 

[Huey Grey]

No, I'm telling you that they fudge the numbers in order to make inflation seem lower than what it really is. How can you calculate inflation if you only include some prices and not all prices?

It's the same basic formula they've been using for decades, dude. Do you really think it's reasonable to calculate inflation by comparing the prices of hundreds of millions of individual items to years when many of these items didn't even exist? What you're asking for is impossible.

 

[Huey Grey]

They're failures. What else do you expect from them?

Working, brother, working hard...

 

[NoleSoup4U]

It's the same basic formula they've been using for decades, dude. Do you really think it's reasonable to calculate inflation by comparing the prices of hundreds of millions of individual items to years when many of these items didn't even exist? What you're asking for is impossible.

I didn't say it wasn't the same calculation, I said that it was a flawed calculation because it doesn't take nonelastic commodities into consideration.

 

[The Tradition]

It's the same basic formula they've been using for decades, dude. Do you really think it's reasonable to calculate inflation by comparing the prices of hundreds of millions of individual items to years when many of these items didn't even exist? What you're asking for is impossible.

No, they've "refined" it many times over the decades.