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Dresser to ISU? --> per IAWRESTLE

I'll admit I have not been a fan of the way brands has handled competing against Virginia Tech in this new duals format but this specific line has me inclined to not really side with them should Dresser Anounce he's taking the ISU job tomorrow

"Should Pollard extend an offer and Dresser accept, the veteran coach would step down immediately and Virginia Tech would be in a position to name an interim head coach, with associate head coach Tony Robie the most likely candidate"

There's almost less than a month left in the season and with VT having a shot at winning another ACC title and a shot at taking home another team trophy I can't understand why you wouldn't allow him to finish out the season with his team. That just comes off as petty to me

http://www.mattalkonline.com/blog/n...coaching-position-offer-decision-coming-soon/


A VT man should coach VT this post season, not someone who is heading to another school. I don't that is petty.
 
A VT man should coach VT this post season, not someone who is heading to another school. I don't that is petty.
I might understand if there was a lot of season left but it's just 2 competitions left I can't see what serious reason there is to not let him finish it out especially for a program he turned into a national power
 
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I might understand if there was a lot of season left but it's just 2 competitions left I can't see what serious reason there is to not let him finish it out especially for a program he turned into a national power

I think every AD should do what Bo Schembechler did as AD back in '89. The Michigan bball coach, Bill Frieder took the ASU job right before the NCAA tournament. Bo immediately fired the coach and promoted Steve Fisher. Mich went on to beat Seton Hall in the championship game.
 
I think every AD should do what Bo Schembechler did as AD back in '89. The Michigan bball coach, Bill Frieder took the ASU job right before the NCAA tournament. Bo immediately fired the coach and promoted Steve Fisher. Mich went on to beat Seton Hall in the championship game.
Yes but their results after that were extremely sub par up until they put the fab 5 together and even then they weren't able to win a title
 
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Yes but their results after that were extremely sub par up until they put the fab 5 together and even then they weren't able to win a title

So if they had kept the other coach on for the tourney they would have done better in subsequent years? That is really hard logic to follow.

By the way, they made the second round the next year, then had an off year, and then the Fab five was there not sure I would call that "extremely subpar".
 
So if they had kept the other coach on for the tourney they would have done better in subsequent years? That is really hard logic to follow.

By the way, they made the second round the next year, then had an off year, and then the Fab five was there not sure I would call that "extremely subpar".
The results afterwards were due to recruiting I believe fisher brought that up as well. I don't think frieder would have had an off year and yes I do believe if he had stayed they could have had better results there's differences in coaching ability.i stretched on saying the results were extremely sub par but Do you think Cael would have had a better result at the 2010 NCAA championships than KJ had he decided to stay at isu?
 
The fact that it's gotten this far, it's got to be a done deal. Dresser's just letting Pollard know the VT counter offer which ISU will match. No way this ends up with KD staying at VT. Not enough chickens to lay enough eggs for all those faces.
 
The results afterwards were due to recruiting I believe fisher brought that up as well. I don't think frieder would have had an off year and yes I do believe if he had stayed they could have had better results there's differences in coaching ability.i stretched on saying the results were extremely sub par but Do you think Cael would have had a better result at the 2010 NCAA championships than KJ had he decided to stay at isu?

This has gotten way off track. The point was that Michigan replaced the head coach because they didn't want an Arizona State coach leading their team. They didn't miss a beat and even won an NCAA title. What happened in years following is irrelevant since Freider was leaving either way.
 
I think it is a good sign that ISU is looking seriously for someone to take over ASAP. I think it is unfortunate that it has to be made public now, but on the other hand,it should be done as soon as possible. Can't say I know what the best answer is.
 
This has gotten way off track. The point was that Michigan replaced the head coach because they didn't want an Arizona State coach leading their team. They didn't miss a beat and even won an NCAA title. What happened in years following is irrelevant since Freider was leaving either way.
My point is he wouldn't assume the job until after the season that's the same reason I feel Dresser shouldn't have to step down if he decides to take the isu job. I'm sure he cares about those kids or he wouldn't be there and they wouldn't be successful so for the duaration of his time at VT I would think he's going all out to ensure their success.
 
If Dresser departs VT who should they hire to replace him?
Robie the assistant has been with him the whole time he's been there. Familiar with the landscape and department and already has a relationship with the team. Rosselli offered him an assistant job at OU and he turned it down to stay at VT
 
My point is he wouldn't assume the job until after the season that's the same reason I feel Dresser shouldn't have to step down if he decides to take the isu job. I'm sure he cares about those kids or he wouldn't be there and they wouldn't be successful so for the duaration of his time at VT I would think he's going all out to ensure their success.

Sorry, but letting a guy who's giving you a big finger and going to work for the competition coach your team doesn't appeal to most any AD. Imagine Dresser coaching at the NCAAs against an ISU underclassmen? Conflict of interest and not to mention awkward. 99 ADs out of 100 are going to do the same thing. And maybe all of them.
 
Sorry, but letting a guy who's giving you a big finger and going to work for the competition coach your team doesn't appeal to most any AD. Imagine Dresser coaching at the NCAAs against an ISU underclassmen? Conflict of interest and not to mention awkward. 99 ADs out of 100 are going to do the same thing. And maybe all of them.
How is it giving you the finger? He built them into what they are I would expect that the athletic department and the community would be grateful for that. I know when Tom Ryan left Hofstra while disappointed that he was leaving we all supported his move and still do to this day. Can't see how it's a conflict of interest when ISU most likely won't have an underclassmen competing at nationals and besides that it's just the way things go it will be more awkward next season if he has to coach against a VT guy who he coached previously then against an ISU guy he currently doesn't know. If Chris Perry and Joe Smith can get over Mark Perry coaching against them I'm sure an Iowa state guy can
 
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How is it giving you the finger? He built them into what they are I would expect that the athletic department and the community would be grateful for that. I know when Tom Ryan left Hofstra while disappointed that he was leaving we all supported his move and still do to this day. Can't see how it's a conflict of interest when ISU most likely won't have an underclassmen competing at nationals and besides that it's just the way things go it will be more awkward next season if he has to coach against a VT guy who he coached previously then against an ISU guy he currently doesn't know. If Chris Perry and Joe Smith can get over Mark Perry coaching against them I'm sure an Iowa state guy can

Well, he's coaching there and during the season he's committing to coach for a direct competitor. That doesn't mean they won't "wish him well" but it isn't a Tom Ryan situation. Not that I'm aware of anyway. I guess if you don't see the conflict here you don't understand the meaning of the term.
 
How is it giving you the finger? He built them into what they are I would expect that the athletic department and the community would be grateful for that. I know when Tom Ryan left Hofstra while disappointed that he was leaving we all supported his move and still do to this day. Can't see how it's a conflict of interest when ISU most likely won't have an underclassmen competing at nationals and besides that it's just the way things go it will be more awkward next season if he has to coach against a VT guy who he coached previously then against an ISU guy he currently doesn't know. If Chris Perry and Joe Smith can get over Mark Perry coaching against them I'm sure an Iowa state guy can

Let's see Hofstra or Ohio State? Big difference and most anybody can understand that move. Dresser would be leaving a team that placed 4th at nationals to go to a team...that well, hasn't. Now, it's a good move on his part if he can keep the recruits and who can blame a guy for going home. However, Dresser has been in Virginia a long time so I don't know if the casual fan will get why ISU is a better gig. He hasn't officially accepted yet so maybe VT came up with enough cabbage to keep him there.

As for coaching them at nationals, I agree with Spooner. Whoever leaked it wasn't doing ISU any favors because they cost them more $$$. Pollard stepped on his own pee pee with the timing of getting rid of Jackson. Had he waited a month, he could be doing this with no distractions and quickly get Dresser or whoever in there.
 
Woah, baby.

A rivalry revitalized.

How many years until ISU finishes higher than Iowa at NCAA's? I think 6 (when Spencer's reign is over).

: ) Good for wrestling.

You been combing the junior highs and elementary school talent to survey which ones are headed to Iowa or ISU?

I think ISU, with Dresser and keeping all the recruits and maybe some transfers could give Iowa competition fairly quick. However, it would have to happen in the next year or two
 
Let's see Hofstra or Ohio State? Big difference and most anybody can understand that move. Dresser would be leaving a team that placed 4th at nationals to go to a team...that well, hasn't. Now, it's a good move on his part if he can keep the recruits and who can blame a guy for going home. However, Dresser has been in Virginia a long time so I don't know if the casual fan will get why ISU is a better gig. He hasn't officially accepted yet so maybe VT came up with enough cabbage to keep him there.

As for coaching them at nationals, I agree with Spooner. Whoever leaked it wasn't doing ISU any favors because they cost them more $$$. Pollard stepped on his own pee pee with the timing of getting rid of Jackson. Had he waited a month, he could be doing this with no distractions and quickly get Dresser or whoever in there.
Hofstra was a better team than Ohio state during Ryan's last season there and it wasn't marginally either looking back to the team finishes at nationals in 06 which while obviously not making it exactly identical still makes it very similar. other than that of course everyone can and should've understood the move. After watching his post match presser it sounds to me like he's taking the job and as you said a chance to be back home and closer to family would make sense. Pollards offer sounds like a now or never deal but yes who ever leaked it didn't do them any favors
 
Hofstra was a better team than Ohio state during Ryan's last season there and it wasn't marginally either looking back to the team finishes at nationals in 06 which while obviously not making it exactly identical still makes it very similar. other than that of course everyone can and should've understood the move. After watching his post match presser it sounds to me like he's taking the job and as you said a chance to be back home and closer to family would make sense.

Sure...but money, recruiting, and name recognition are huge in Ohio State...it was a hotbed waiting to be exploited kind of like PSU. A lot of people outside of the sport have never heard of Hofstra to be honest. All of these are maybe marginally better at Iowa State...I say marginally because ISU has to compete with Iowa and UNI for the Iowa High School scraps..which these days, are not many. That Dresser has had to recruit nationally will serve him well.

Hofstra was doing well but tOSU had just finished third in 2004 so it wasn't like it was desolate. They just shit the bed the next two years which tells me the admin did care about the sport because Hellickson couldn't ride that finish for long.
 
Sure...but money, recruiting, and name recognition are huge in Ohio State...it was a hotbed waiting to be exploited kind of like PSU. A lot of people outside of the sport have never heard of Hofstra to be honest. All of these are maybe marginally better at Iowa State...I say marginally because ISU has to compete with Iowa and UNI for the Iowa High School scraps..which these days, are not many. That Dresser has had to recruit nationally will serve him well.

Hofstra was doing well but tOSU had just finished third in 2004 so it wasn't like it was desolate. They just shit the bed the next two years which tells me the admin did care about the sport because Hellickson couldn't ride that finish for long.
Agreed that's why everyone here understood the move.
 
I think they are trying to get Dresser in right away is to address the recruits. Mainly Allar, Gomez and Smith. The releases have to be answered very shortly
 
them As for coachingat nationals, I agree with Spooner. Whoever leaked it wasn't doing ISU any favors because they cost them more $$$. Pollard stepped on his own pee pee with the timing of getting rid of Jackson. Had he waited a month, he could be doing this with no distractions and quickly get Dresser or whoever in there.

Jamie Pollard could f up a 2 car funeral.
 
I might understand if there was a lot of season left but it's just 2 competitions left I can't see what serious reason there is to not let him finish it out especially for a program he turned into a national power
Because of the conflict of interest with the VT wrestlers who return next season. If I knew the coach was gone in a couple weeks, my respect and attention to him would not be much.
 
Coaches won't win matches for their wrestlers at the NCAA's. The wrestlers are prepared. Now it's up to them to execute no matter who is sitting in the corner.
 
Speaking of isu... when's the last time there were 4 falls (and a TF) against them..

Results:
174: Chris Pfarr (Minn) dec No. 10 Lelund Weatherspoon (ISU) | Minn 3 - ISU 0
184: Brandon Krone (Minn) maj dec Carson Powell (ISU) | Minn 7 - ISU 0
197: No. 2 Brett Pfarr (Minn) fall (2:36) Marcus Harrington (ISU) | Minn 13 - ISU 0
285: No. 8 Michael Kroells (Minn) tech fall Quean Smith (ISU), 18-2 | Minn 18 - ISU 0
125: No. 7 Ethan Lizak (Minn) fall (4:42) Kyle Larson (ISU) | Minn 24 - ISU 0
133: No. 10 Earl Hall (ISU) dec No. 17 Mitch McKee (Minn), 16-9 | Minn 24 - ISU 3
141: No. 11 Tommy Thorn (Minn) fall (1:56) John Meeks (ISU) | Minn 30 - ISU 3
149: Gabe Moreno (ISU) maj dec Ben Brancale (Minn), 8-0 | Minn 30 - ISU 7
157: No. 8 Jake Short maj dec Colston DiBlasi (ISU), 9-1 | Minn 34 - ISU 7
165: No. 18 Nick Wanzek fall (3:18) Logan Breitenbach (ISU) | Minn 40 - ISU 7
 
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