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Drew Miller, Mediapolis IA, #1 ‘24 kicker nationally

Have followed Iowa recruiting for about 15+ years and this is the first K/P recruit I’ve ever had the “Iowa’s gotta get this kid” vibe for.
I've seen him play and the dude has a cannon but let's not get carried away. Good kid and good family from what I know.

@MepoDawg# is he playing soccer this spring? If so good luck against BND!
 
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No, he’s not playing soccer. Concentrating on punting/kicking training as well as his recruiting. Doesn’t want to risk injury and last year he was always too tired to train after practice/games as he was playing defensive mid-fielder. It also messed up his form and it took him a little bit to get back to normal afterwards which wouldn’t help in June when attending college camps.
My son kicked (FB) for his last two years and never truly regained his soccer form. Was still all state in both but it definitely has an impact. Good decision.
 
Best of luck man! And miss a couple FGs when you play my son's team. :)
 
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I'd take with a grain of salt any publication that calls a 15 year old kid the #1 kicker nationally in his class after hitting just 1 of 5 career field goal attempts. He's probably got a great leg, but he still has several years of high school ball left to mature and prove the ranking true.
Go look in a mirror, count to 4.9 and then punch yourself in the mouth for opening it. You suck.
 
It's kinda cool to see the D1 talent that has come out of small town Mediapolis.

Jesse Ertz was a good QB for Kansas State, when healthy.






 
Reggie routinely kicked the ball thru the uprights on kickoffs with room to spare, he had the strongest leg anyone had ever seen. He outkicked his coverage a lot, so his net wasn't always great, and they had to use Tom Nichols (?) for pooch kicks, but Reggie could launch a punt literally 70-80 yards in the air

I also recall he lost his career 50 yd/punt average on his LAST college kick! I was pretty pissed at the time

However, the greatest college punter ever is SDSUs Matt Araiza, who just graduated (?but may still be eligible?). Read up on him--he's amazing and, I must admit, even better than Tory, and probably Reggie, too
 
No kicker or punter I have ever seen at Iowa is even close to the leg of Reggie Roby.

Opponent's might have started at the twenty but there probably weren't many big returns against Iowa in the Roby years.
 
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No kicker or punter I have ever seen at Iowa is even close to the leg of Reggie Roby.

Opponent's might have started at the twenty but there probably weren't many big returns against Iowa in the Roby years.

Absence makes the heart grow fonder.
We were giving up significantly more punt returns and return yards in the Roby years than now. And, it got worse during his career. The return yards listed below are for the team and not specifically Reggie. While we were using two punters in his era, he had the majority of the punts and it seems unlikely that the "pooch" punts were giving up big returns.

In 1979, Roby had 35 of the Hawkeyes 51 punts. There were 20 returned for 147 yards (7.4 yds per). Hawkeyes returned 20 for 65 yards. In 1980, Roby had 41 punts and Olenjniczak 24. We had 29 punts returned against us for 279 yards (9.6 yds). By comparison, the Hawkeyes returned 23 for 131 yards. In 1981, Roby had 44 punts, Nichol 11, and Oly 1. We had 32 returned against us for 316 (9.9 yds); the Hawkeye returned 28 for 220. In 1982, Roby 56 and Nichol 9. We gave up 445 yards on 34 returns (13.1 yds); Hawks got 60 yards on 23 returns.

In 2020 (short season), Taylor had 40 punts; six were returned for 31 yards (5.2). Hawkeyes returned 23 for 223 yards. In 2021, Taylor had 80(!) punts; there were 18 returned for 69 yards (3.8). Hawkeyes returned 39 for 300 yards. Taylor has significantly fewer punts returned and for significantly fewer yards per.

Someone could try to make the argument that overall punt teams are better at covering kicks 40 years later. But, I don't know. Our own recent punt return yards are very comparable to what we were giving up under Roby, and our punt coverage yards are comparable to what are opponents were doing back then.
 
If the Staff believes He can be a difference maker in STs with Iowa's style of play He needs an offer if one hasn't been offered, JMO .
 
Absence makes the heart grow fonder.
We were giving up significantly more punt returns and return yards in the Roby years than now. And, it got worse during his career. The return yards listed below are for the team and not specifically Reggie. While we were using two punters in his era, he had the majority of the punts and it seems unlikely that the "pooch" punts were giving up big returns.

In 1979, Roby had 35 of the Hawkeyes 51 punts. There were 20 returned for 147 yards (7.4 yds per). Hawkeyes returned 20 for 65 yards. In 1980, Roby had 41 punts and Olenjniczak 24. We had 29 punts returned against us for 279 yards (9.6 yds). By comparison, the Hawkeyes returned 23 for 131 yards. In 1981, Roby had 44 punts, Nichol 11, and Oly 1. We had 32 returned against us for 316 (9.9 yds); the Hawkeye returned 28 for 220. In 1982, Roby 56 and Nichol 9. We gave up 445 yards on 34 returns (13.1 yds); Hawks got 60 yards on 23 returns.

In 2020 (short season), Taylor had 40 punts; six were returned for 31 yards (5.2). Hawkeyes returned 23 for 223 yards. In 2021, Taylor had 80(!) punts; there were 18 returned for 69 yards (3.8). Hawkeyes returned 39 for 300 yards. Taylor has significantly fewer punts returned and for significantly fewer yards per.

Someone could try to make the argument that overall punt teams are better at covering kicks 40 years later. But, I don't know. Our own recent punt return yards are very comparable to what we were giving up under Roby, and our punt coverage yards are comparable to what are opponents were doing back then.
Very surprised at those numbers. Proof the fish do get bigger with each passing year.

It is also true that we have far better athletes in punt coverage today, and probably a much better special teams coach than we had in the early Fry seasons. Probably better athletes on coverage than the sainted John Hayden Fray ever had in kick/punt coverage.
 
Very surprised at those numbers. Proof the fish do get bigger with each passing year.

It is also true that we have far better athletes in punt coverage today, and probably a much better special teams coach than we had in the early Fry seasons. Probably better athletes on coverage than the sainted John Hayden Fray ever had in kick/punt coverage.
Very true, not sure about rule changes through the years as well.
 
Absence makes the heart grow fonder.
We were giving up significantly more punt returns and return yards in the Roby years than now. And, it got worse during his career. The return yards listed below are for the team and not specifically Reggie. While we were using two punters in his era, he had the majority of the punts and it seems unlikely that the "pooch" punts were giving up big returns.

In 1979, Roby had 35 of the Hawkeyes 51 punts. There were 20 returned for 147 yards (7.4 yds per). Hawkeyes returned 20 for 65 yards. In 1980, Roby had 41 punts and Olenjniczak 24. We had 29 punts returned against us for 279 yards (9.6 yds). By comparison, the Hawkeyes returned 23 for 131 yards. In 1981, Roby had 44 punts, Nichol 11, and Oly 1. We had 32 returned against us for 316 (9.9 yds); the Hawkeye returned 28 for 220. In 1982, Roby 56 and Nichol 9. We gave up 445 yards on 34 returns (13.1 yds); Hawks got 60 yards on 23 returns.

In 2020 (short season), Taylor had 40 punts; six were returned for 31 yards (5.2). Hawkeyes returned 23 for 223 yards. In 2021, Taylor had 80(!) punts; there were 18 returned for 69 yards (3.8). Hawkeyes returned 39 for 300 yards. Taylor has significantly fewer punts returned and for significantly fewer yards per.

Someone could try to make the argument that overall punt teams are better at covering kicks 40 years later. But, I don't know. Our own recent punt return yards are very comparable to what we were giving up under Roby, and our punt coverage yards are comparable to what are opponents were doing back then.
However, there have also been rule changes that make the Taylor-Roby comparison apples-oranges.

And when limited by Keith Duncan to kickoff-only duty, Shudak compares pretty favorably to Roby on the kickoff side of things.

Let's just say it helps to have good punting and kicking when you rely heavily on your defense for successful seasons.
 
Fan? Yes. Does that mean anything, not necessarily. Have visited Iowa twice as well as 4 other schools in the fall with others showing interest. Really early though for specialists and not a lot of communication due to age and recruiting rules. Should be going on several spring visits this year, don’t know where yet

He’s attended several different camps, mainly Kohl’s Kicking which is the biggest and best for rankings by class (ESPN uses). Kornblue (former Michigan kicker) ranks upperclassmen (seniors) and Underclassmen (juniors and younger). Chris Sailer Kicking (more west coast) and Phase 3 Kicking. Also, attends Hammer Kicking Academy, but he doesn’t do rankings just training, comps and helps with recruiting.

Trying to get video from one of his recent camps for punting. In the final comp he averaged 55-60 yards per punt and 5.0 hang. Longest punt was 70 with a 4.91 hang. I’ll post it here if we can get it. He kicks as well, good distance up to 60-63, just needs more consistency in a charting session. Below are his rankings with all.

Kohl’s: #1 Punter, #8 Kicker
Sailer: #1 Punter, #1 Kicker
Kornblue: #2 Punter behind ‘23 headed to Michigan, #2 behind ‘23
Phase 3: #1 Punter, #1 Kicker
Hammer: doesn’t do rankings but recognizes him as the top punter in ‘24 and one of the top kickers

So what you're saying is, if we sign him then.............

National championship? :D
 
I have inside information that he has been awarded a sixth star.

This young man reminds me of Reggie Roby and Nate Kaeding, but with an even higher ceiling.

is there any other football team that makes its punters and kickers put the whole team on their shoulders so often?

Got to be a Hawkeye!
 
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Very true, not sure about rule changes through the years as well.
The rule changes in the college game do make it harder to both block and return punts. The rugby style punts, when properly executed, are very hard to return.

I will readily acknowledge that the kicking has gotten a lot better. I showed the stats from Tom Nichol's career, who was a very good kicker at Iowa. He made 61% of the kicks. It's highly unlikely that any FG kicker today would be allowed to take 70 FG attempts making just 61% of the kicks. Doesn't mean he was a bad kicker, just things have changed.

Roby punted for 16 years in the NFL, averaging more than 43 yards per punt. Was a great in college and in the NFL. He would have been great in any era. Things such as recency bias and love for the past (and overstating how good an older player was) both exist. With that said, I'm old enough to see Roby in person and in the NFL and Taylor today, and Roby is the greatest punter Iowa has had. Period. End of story.
 
The rule changes in the college game do make it harder to both block and return punts. The rugby style punts, when properly executed, are very hard to return.

I will readily acknowledge that the kicking has gotten a lot better. I showed the stats from Tom Nichol's career, who was a very good kicker at Iowa. He made 61% of the kicks. It's highly unlikely that any FG kicker today would be allowed to take 70 FG attempts making just 61% of the kicks. Doesn't mean he was a bad kicker, just things have changed.

Roby punted for 16 years in the NFL, averaging more than 43 yards per punt. Was a great in college and in the NFL. He would have been great in any era. Things such as recency bias and love for the past (and overstating how good an older player was) both exist. With that said, I'm old enough to see Roby in person and in the NFL and Taylor today, and Roby is the greatest punter Iowa has had. Period. End of story.
The ball had a different sound coming off his foot. Pre game warm ups were impressive.
 
Providing an update for anyone interested

Spring visits:
Alabama
Auburn
Iowa
Michigan (x2)
Notre Dame
Wisconsin

Spring visits from schools to his HS during evaluation period:
Iowa
Missouri

June workouts/camps/visits
Alabama
Auburn
Baylor
Georgia
Iowa
Iowa St
Missouri
South Carolina

He’s at HKA Top 40 now through Sunday and will have Kohl’s National Camp in late July.

Schools he may be visiting the last week of July

Baylor
Iowa St.
North Carolina St.
But he's coming to Iowa, right?

😉
 
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I hope Iowa offers, with Iowa's style of play STs are kind of a big deal.
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He’s enjoying it right now. He’s made a couple comments about it, but more of what else does he need to do to earn a scholarship from any school We’re really only 10 months into the recruiting process and it’s still really early for specialists in his class.

It’s definitely wearing on our pocket book. Can’t wait for official visits. Unfortunately, we have fall (game day visits) and winter junior days before he can take any officials spring/summer/fall next year. Though he may be narrowing his list based on their interest and we just can’t make it to all of them.

Wish you guys well, Sounds like they need ”student loans” for parents during the recruiting process!
 
Providing an update for anyone interested

Spring visits:
Alabama
Auburn
Iowa
Michigan (x2)
Notre Dame
Wisconsin

Spring visits from schools to his HS during evaluation period:
Iowa
Missouri

June workouts/camps/visits
Alabama
Auburn
Baylor
Georgia
Iowa
Iowa St
Missouri
South Carolina

He’s at HKA Top 40 now through Sunday and will have Kohl’s National Camp in late July.

Schools he may be visiting the last week of July

Baylor
Iowa St.
North Carolina St.
That's quite a list! What's he looking for in a school? Academics? A ring? Early PT? Close to home? Far from home? Urban? Rural? Size? Nothing west of Ames (technically Baylor is but...). Why no schools out west? How many has he visited on his own? Or are you guys accompanying him? Just curious. about it all. TIA.
 
Lots to unpack here. He’s looking at team chemistry, culture, how they interact with each other, coaches/staff and community in general. He’s looking for continuity of a coaching staff, how much emphasis is put on special teams, can they develop him more, history with specialists turning pro/drafted, academics (undergrad and master’s level), and he’s dual enrolled so will any of his credits transfer. early playing time, looking at schools where he’d have a possibility of starting day 1 or after a redshirt season (you won’t find many who will scholarship his class if more than a year crossover with current scholarship punter).

Weather year around and training facilities, proximity to off season trainers, size of school doesn’t matter, but looking a certain size of cities though not a deal breaker if something checks all the other boxes, but most of them we’ve visited have been in the 60-130k range. Closeness to home not necessarily at factor, more of ease of travel ability. If farther from home, how easy can he get to a major airport for decently priced flights. As far as schools goes and nothing west, none have really shown interest, maybe they don’t line up with his class or due to trainers contacts.

As far as visits between game day visits, ‘junior’ days, spring visits, and summer workouts/visits we’ve been on 25 that were school involved and 15 or so on our own while traveling nearby different schools. He’s only been to one without us and that was with three high school teammates and one of their parents. However, for spring practices he would be down on the field with the team while we watched from a distance so he could get a better feel for it himself and interact with players and staff.

In the end, he has a list of things to look at, some with more emphasis than others. It won’t be an easy decision, although it might as it depends on who actually offers him a scholarship.
I saw UGA got a commitment from a K so maybe that starts the dominoes to follow. Enjoy the adventure.
 
Nothing to do with my son and has no impact on his recruiting. My son is/will be a punter in college. He kicks, too, but that isn’t/won’t be his main focus.
My bad, treated it like drafts can go. The first person in a position group gets drafted and it starts a bit of a run on the group. The first P/K gets a scholly and FOMO starts for the schools.
 
Schools typically have 1 punter, 1 kicker and 1 long snapper on scholarship. Obviously it varies, but on average. There can be crossover where the have two, but usually not for long. Or they try to bring them all in on PWO and whoever wins the starting spot gets the scholarship. Schools also use camps for this, bring in a number of punters and competition winner gets the offer and if he commits then that starts the dominoes.

Kind of crazy how Hayden chased down Reggie and what he felt it meant to the program. My how times have changed.

From A High Porch Picnic....

“The night before the signing date, we took our whole coaching staff to Waterloo to show Roby how much we wanted him,” Fry said. “I don’t know if that was the deciding factor, but the next day he signed with us.

“I was never so happy to sign a punter. Getting Reggie helped us convince Iowa kids that playing for the Hawkeyes was a thing to do. And he helped give us one of the best kicking games in college for the next four years.”

reggie_roby5.jpg
 
Kind of crazy how Hayden chased down Reggie and what he felt it meant to the program. My how times have changed.

From A High Porch Picnic....

“The night before the signing date, we took our whole coaching staff to Waterloo to show Roby how much we wanted him,” Fry said. “I don’t know if that was the deciding factor, but the next day he signed with us.

“I was never so happy to sign a punter. Getting Reggie helped us convince Iowa kids that playing for the Hawkeyes was a thing to do. And he helped give us one of the best kicking games in college for the next four years.”

reggie_roby5.jpg
I had a class with Reggie. One of the nicest players I ever met. Huge guy with huge legs, very humble and soft-spoken.
 
Nothing to do with my son and has no impact on his recruiting. My son is/will be a punter in college. He kicks, too, but that isn’t/won’t be his main focus.
Congrats to your son Mepo. You have to be a pretty proud papa. As a hawk fan hoping he comes to Iowa but if he doesn’t good luck to him wherever he decides to go. Hope he has a great college career.
 
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Come on Mr Miller you know where he needs to go to the good guys! IOWA. GO HAWKS happy for your son wish him the best
 
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Iowa highlights special teams and kickers more than almost any team in the country. We have continuity and stability at the position coach. Every reason to stay in Iowa.

Reggie was simply the Bomb.
 
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