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Really? I figured the gun lunatics would be pissed that their social media darling thought they should be vetted.Nobody cares.
Thanks for convincing me that universal background checks are the way to go for owning guns.At Virginia Tech the shooter killed 32 people and wounded 17 with handguns.
I think that is still the 'record'.
Cho used two pistols during the attacks: a .22-caliber Walther P22 semi-automatic handgun and a 9 mm semi-automatic Glock 19 handgun
We don't institutionalize enough of the nutters.Thanks for convincing me that universal background checks are the way to go for owning guns.
No disagreement from me on that either.We don't institutionalize enough of the nutters.
Cho had previously been diagnosed with selective mutism and severe depression. During much of his middle school and high school years, he received therapy and special education support. After graduating from high school, Cho enrolled at Virginia Tech. Because of federal privacy laws, the university was unaware of Cho's previous diagnoses or the accommodations he had been granted at school. In 2005, Cho was accused of stalking two female students. After an investigation, a Virginia special justice declared Cho mentally ill and ordered him to attend treatment. Because he was not institutionalized, he was allowed to purchase guns. The shooting prompted the state of Virginia to close legal loopholes that had allowed individuals adjudicated as mentally unsound to purchase handguns without detection by the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS). It also led to passage of the only major federal gun control measure in the U.S. since 1994. The law strengthening the NICS was signed by President George W. Bush on January 5, 2008.
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Since the deinstitutionalization movement of the 1960s, civil commitment in the United States almost always requires a finding of dangerousness -- both imminent and physical -- as determined by a judge. Most of the rest of the world has more reasonable standards -- you might almost call them "common sense" -- allowing family, friends and even acquaintances to petition for involuntarily commitment, with the final decision made by doctors.
The result of our laissez-faire approach to dangerous psychotics is visible in the swarms of homeless people on our streets, crazy people in our prison populations and the prevalence of mass shootings.
According to a 2002 report by Central Institute of Mental Health for the European Union, the number of involuntarily detained mental patients, per 100,000 people, in other countries looks like this:
The absolute maximum number of mental patients per 100,000 people who could possibly be institutionalized by the state in the U.S. -- voluntarily or involuntarily -- is: 17. Yes, according to the Treatment Advocacy Center, there are a grand total of 17 psychiatric beds even available, not necessarily being used. In 1955, there were 340.
- Austria, 175
- Finland, 218
- Germany, 175
- Sweden, 114
- England, 93
Eh, he has a ton of eyeballs on him and the cons really like him right now. Probably doesn't hurt to have him saying stuff like that.Nobody cares.
So they are saying if it was a handgun, shotgun or a different rifle the cops would have just walked on in and knocked on the door? Genius theory
I doubt it would have taken 40 minutes.So they are saying if it was a handgun, shotgun or a different rifle the cops would have just walked on in and knocked on the door? Genius theory
Which record?At Virginia Tech the shooter killed 32 people and wounded 17 with handguns.
I think that is still the 'record'.
Cho used two pistols during the attacks: a .22-caliber Walther P22 semi-automatic handgun and a 9 mm semi-automatic Glock 19 handgun
Care enough to be the first one to weigh in. LolNobody cares.
At Virginia Tech the shooter killed 32 people and wounded 17 with handguns.
I think that is still the 'record'.
Cho used two pistols during the attacks: a .22-caliber Walther P22 semi-automatic handgun and a 9 mm semi-automatic Glock 19 handgun
I’d rather lockup nutters than give them a ‘script and wish everyone else good luck.In that case, let's just do nothing.
You are such a dumb phuqing cock.When will the libs talk about gun violence in Chicago?
Chime in and talk. But you know it's true. Everybody ignores New York and Chicago.You are such a dumb phuqing cock.
They haven't looked up "vetted", yet. They think it means "hung". They have lots of delusions, you know.Really? I figured the gun lunatics would be pissed that their social media darling thought they should be vetted.
No they don't. They point to Chicago and NY as reasons for NATIONAL policies rather than state and local ones that can be circumvented by driving a few miles.Chime in and talk. But you know it's true. Everybody ignores New York and Chicago.
Bro, I’ve been talking. I’ve posted numerous times in the past about Tallahassee and New York. You’re just further making the point that things need to change.Chime in and talk. But you know it's true. Everybody ignores New York and Chicago.
At Virginia Tech the shooter killed 32 people and wounded 17 with handguns.
I think that is still the 'record'.
Cho used two pistols during the attacks: a .22-caliber Walther P22 semi-automatic handgun and a 9 mm semi-automatic Glock 19 handgun
No extra gun laws would have stopped this. You can't stop anybody with mental illness .Bro, I’ve been talking. I’ve posted numerous times in the past about Tallahassee and New York. You’re just further making the point that things need to change.
Stopping this guy from buying an AR 15 wouldn’t have stopped this?No extra gun laws would have stopped this. You can't stop anybody with mental illness .
Also, the things they say about Chicago and NY aren't even true. Chicago isn't even in the top 25 for gun related homicides in the country.No they don't. They point to Chicago and NY as reasons for NATIONAL policies rather than state and local ones that can be circumvented by driving a few miles.
You knew that, right?
Typical mindset of a Dem:No they don't. They point to Chicago and NY as reasons for NATIONAL policies rather than state and local ones that can be circumvented by driving a few miles.
You knew that, right?
What about Maine, Vermont, NH? What makes them different than the states you’re discussing? Hint: look at demographicsStates with the most lax gun laws have the most gun deaths.
Lots of real data points to the need for significant gun reform but the blockheads will continue to keep up the "but Chicago" propaganda.
This board obviously does lol. Anytime he goes against whichever party people root for there is usually a lengthy thread about him. #GodBlessElonNobody cares.
It’s #3 now behind Orlando and Las Vegas. A scary thought is the more mature the shooter, the more effective he/she is.The grim one - most deaths.
I think he could have shot a room full of people with a handgun, yes.Stopping this guy from buying an AR 15 wouldn’t have stopped this?
Cho demonstrated a rifle isn’t necessary to slaughter people inside a building. A handgun can do the trick.High capacity magazines with easy/quick reload. The victims were identifiable at least.
Is your point that a Glock 19 is comparable to an AR-15?
We don't institutionalize enough of the nutters.
Cho had previously been diagnosed with selective mutism and severe depression. During much of his middle school and high school years, he received therapy and special education support. After graduating from high school, Cho enrolled at Virginia Tech. Because of federal privacy laws, the university was unaware of Cho's previous diagnoses or the accommodations he had been granted at school. In 2005, Cho was accused of stalking two female students. After an investigation, a Virginia special justice declared Cho mentally ill and ordered him to attend treatment. Because he was not institutionalized, he was allowed to purchase guns. The shooting prompted the state of Virginia to close legal loopholes that had allowed individuals adjudicated as mentally unsound to purchase handguns without detection by the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS). It also led to passage of the only major federal gun control measure in the U.S. since 1994. The law strengthening the NICS was signed by President George W. Bush on January 5, 2008.
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Since the deinstitutionalization movement of the 1960s, civil commitment in the United States almost always requires a finding of dangerousness -- both imminent and physical -- as determined by a judge. Most of the rest of the world has more reasonable standards -- you might almost call them "common sense" -- allowing family, friends and even acquaintances to petition for involuntarily commitment, with the final decision made by doctors.
The result of our laissez-faire approach to dangerous psychotics is visible in the swarms of homeless people on our streets, crazy people in our prison populations and the prevalence of mass shootings.
According to a 2002 report by Central Institute of Mental Health for the European Union, the number of involuntarily detained mental patients, per 100,000 people, in other countries looks like this:
The absolute maximum number of mental patients per 100,000 people who could possibly be institutionalized by the state in the U.S. -- voluntarily or involuntarily -- is: 17. Yes, according to the Treatment Advocacy Center, there are a grand total of 17 psychiatric beds even available, not necessarily being used. In 1955, there were 340.
- Austria, 175
- Finland, 218
- Germany, 175
- Sweden, 114
- England, 93
Cho demonstrated a rifle isn’t necessary to slaughter people inside a building. A handgun can do the trick.
Need more clarification?