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A hammer can kill people also. There's a range of effectiveness for different weapons. Where does an AR-15 fit in that range?
Cho purchased his firearms from a dealer, and had background checks. He also had to wait 30 days between the purchase and delivery of each gun. He should have been red flagged based on mental health episodes and evaluation.
I think you’ll find a lot of pages on the internet devoted to the 9mm vs .45 ACP vs 5.56mm vs 7.62mm debate.
Check it out if that’s your thing.
Can you describe the provisions of that act that relate to involuntary commitment?
lol nice pivot. I was asking YOU since YOU are comparing the two weapons. It's not my f'ing thing.
I was trying to point out the debate is largely subjective, and by no means settled.
In order of least favorite to be shot with I’d go:
.45 ACP, 7.62mm, 5.56mm, 9mm.
Pardon me, I thought your response was germane to the discussion.
Lol - they are basically equivalent or higher than Illinois. You know, where Chicago is?
Vegas and Orlando have the record unless you are limiting this to just educational facilities.
Well, yeah because he had access to the gun and law enforcement was apparently engaged in other activities for 40 minutes.
Ramos could not have legally purchased a handgun. Age for that is 21.
That is one of the things that is so stupid and frustrating about this discussion. He was not old enough to purchase a hand gun, but he was old enough to purchase two assault rifles, ammunition and body armor when he turned 18!
So, he can’t legally buy a hand gun, but can an AR 15. Makes perfect sense for Texas.
You’re wondering about something super specific. I’m not here for homework assignments. If you’re super interested, you can do the work and come back and share what you’ve found. That’s not unfair.
Specific and relevant.
The absolute maximum number of mental patients per 100,000 people who could possibly be institutionalized by the state in the U.S. -- voluntarily or involuntarily -- is: 17. Yes, according to the Treatment Advocacy Center, there are a grand total of 17 psychiatric beds even available, not necessarily being used. In 1955, there were 340.
In 1955 you could buy a gun through the Sears catalog.
Same as in 1905.
I’m not saying we need to back to the Cuckoo’s Nest, but the pendulum has swung to far away from protecting society from the insane.
Florida changed that law, along with strengthening the red flag law. The Florida Baker Act has been in effect since 1971, but people could lie on their Form 4473. Now new transactions are flagged, and firearms that are already owned can be confiscated. The latter was already true for anyone being accused of a violent felony or misdemeanor domestic violence.
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All the more reason for deep background checks. I know Florida changed it, but sadly Texas went the opposite direction by going constitutional carry. Dude shot 120 rounds in 120 seconds from a legally purchased rifle.
