Equal Rights Amendment Ratified

[BioHawk]

Biden has declared that the Equal Rights Amendment has been ratified because Virginia became the 38th state to ratify. I have often wondered why that happened and nobody paid attention to it but I guess this will bring it some attention. I can only guess that he's doing this to piss off MAGA world and maybe get them to waste a ton of time and resources fighting these things instead of doing the truly terrible things they want to do. At least occupy enough time to try and flip Congress at the midterms.

On the other hand, I look forward to hearing Republicans try to explain how Virginia becoming the 38th state to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment didn't actually happen.

https://www.npr.org/2025/01/17/nx-s1-5264378/biden-era-national-archivist-constitution

 

[Scruddy]

Pretty massive fact check on biden by community notes lol

 

[Hoosierhawkeye]

Biden has declared that the Equal Rights Amendment has been ratified because Virginia became the 38th state to ratify. I have often wondered why that happened and nobody paid attention to it but I guess this will bring it some attention. I can only guess that he's doing this to piss off MAGA world and maybe get them to waste a ton of time and resources fighting these things instead of doing the truly terrible things they want to do. At least occupy enough time to try and flip Congress at the midterms.

On the other hand, I look forward to hearing Republicans try to explain how Virginia becoming the 38th state to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment didn't actually happen.

https://www.npr.org/2025/01/17/nx-s1-5264378/biden-era-national-archivist-constitution

Didn't the amendment proposal include a time limit that has long since passed?

 

[Scruddy]

Didn't the amendment proposal include a time limit that has long since passed?

Yes. The community note on his x post links to all that information.

 

[goldmom]

I’m of the age where the ERA first came out. It used to matter - or so those of us who were in college thought it mattered.
Now I’m not sure it even matters.

 

[Scruddy]

Biden getting ratio'd and fact checked in his closing days as president is just 👌

 

[Ghee Buttersnaps]

So Virgins are equal now?

 

[BioHawk]

Didn't the amendment proposal include a time limit that has long since passed?

I've heard that but it isn't like that is written into the amendment anywhere so I can't be sure that wasn't made up by somebody to justify not ratifying it.

 

[BioHawk]

I’m of the age where the ERA first came out. It used to matter - or so those of us who were in college thought it mattered.
Now I’m not sure it even matters.

It matters and I'm sure at least part of the idea is that by acknowledging the amendment it provides another way to protect reproductive rights for women.

 

[gohawks50]

Didn't the amendment proposal include a time limit that has long since passed?

Originally it had a seven year time limit that was extended 5 years to 1982.

 

[Hoosierhawkeye]

I've heard that but it isn't like that is written into the amendment anywhere so I can't be sure that wasn't made up by somebody to justify not ratifying it.

Apparently the argument is that if it's in the pre-amble it doesn't count. I don't think that is correct IMO. Clearly congress intended the time limit.

I don't even know how much the ERA is going to benefit women now, but it would probably force them to register for selective service. So I am a supporter.

 

[SB_SB]

I’m of the age where the ERA first came out. It used to matter - or so those of us who were in college thought it mattered.
Now I’m not sure it even matters.

It mattered when you were in college and it matters now. I don't care who you are, everyone should want equal rights.

 

[RollingBallofButcherKnives]

Does this mean Northern isn’t getting his supper on time anymore?

 

[UKGrad93]

I've heard the argument that the constitution doesn't say anything about time limits, that it has two criteria: Congressional approval and ratification by states. Those two requirements have been met. I'm not sure how the 7 year time limit will play out.

 

[millah_22]

I’m of the age where the ERA first came out. It used to matter - or so those of us who were in college thought it mattered.
Now I’m not sure it even matters.

I think we are priveleged to live in a time that for the most part it doesn't matter anymore. I'm currently reading The Argonauts by Maggie Nelson, and she had a part about trying to get married to her transitioning husband in California right before Prop 8 went to a vote.

That was just in 2008. We're only a little over 16 years removed from that.

Times are changing, but sometimes change moves pretty slow.

 

[Aardvark86]

I've heard the argument that the constitution doesn't say anything about time limits, that it has two criteria: Congressional approval and ratification by states. Those two requirements have been met. I'm not sure how the 7 year time limit will play out.

yeah, the argument's there, though i don't think it's particularly compelling for two reasons. First, the process starts with congress and there's also nothing in teh constitution suggesting that congress' ability to attach terms and conditions disappears in the context of amendments. and that's actually been litigated. Second, I suspect that the court will look to practice as well, and in that vein, the 'sleeper' amendments that have been ratified decades later (such as the 27th) haven't had time limits on them.

See generally https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artV-4-2-1/ALDE_00013054/

Now, what'll be interesting is how someone will get standing to challenge this.

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

I remember when the ERA vote failed in Iowa in 1992. Feminists were super triggered.

 

[RollingBallofButcherKnives]

I remember when the ERA vote failed in Iowa in 1992. Feminists were super triggered.

Damn Feminists won’t show you their running form, will they?

 

[goldmom]

It matters and I'm sure at least part of the idea is that by acknowledging the amendment it provides another way to protect reproductive rights for women.

The reproductive issue might be the angle. I was pro-choice back then and I remain so now.

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

Damn Feminists won’t show you their running form, will they?

Just saw a gal out running today. Horrible form. Laborsome and strikingly inefficient. I instantly lost respect. No one wants to see that.

 

[sdhawkeye]

I remember when the ERA vote failed in Iowa in 1992. Feminists were super triggered.

I remember that time Northern's wife said "no" to him about something. He was super triggered!

 

[lucas80]

Just saw a gal out running today. Horrible form. Laborsome and strikingly inefficient. I instantly lost respect. No one wants to see that.

Didn't the judge tell you to stay away from her?

 

[mnole03]

Apparently the argument is that if it's in the pre-amble it doesn't count. I don't think that is correct IMO. Clearly congress intended the time limit.

I don't even know how much the ERA is going to benefit women now, but it would probably force them to register for selective service. So I am a supporter.

The 18th Amendment included the time requirement in the text of the article.

 

[lucas80]

I’m of the age where the ERA first came out. It used to matter - or so those of us who were in college thought it mattered.
Now I’m not sure it even matters.

Don't women still make about 70 percent of what men make?

 

[The Tradition]

Don't women still make about 70 percent of what men make?

Myth.

 

[The Tradition]

It mattered when you were in college and it matters now. I don't care who you are, everyone should want equal rights.

What rights do men have that women don't without the ERA?

 

[lucas80]

Myth.

So, 60 percent?

 

[The Tradition]

So, 60 percent?

It's statistical sleight of hand. There are a number of professions that remain stubbornly female-dominated (nursing, teaching) and those jobs tend to pay lower than jobs dominated by men.

But where men and women compete equally in a particular profession, the ladies tend to make MORE than the men.

And those are the facts.

 

[SoonerBeAHawk]

But where men and women compete equally in a particular profession, the ladies tend to make MORE than the men.

And those are the facts.

Wait a second!

I had always been against the ERA, but that's bullshit! Bring on the ERA!!!

 

[Hock-I]

How about an Equal Happiness Amendment.

 

[THE_DEVIL]

SCOTUS says the president can do as he pleases

 

[The Tradition]

How about an Equal Happiness Amendment.

Right, because pursuit isn't good enough.

 

[abby97]

It mattered when you were in college and it matters now. I don't care who you are, everyone should want equal rights.

Maybe you are one of the new illegal immigrants so you aren’t familiar with the U.S. Constitution, all Americans all ready have equal rights.

 

[BioHawk]

Wait a second!

I had always been against the ERA, but that's bullshit! Bring on the ERA!!!

Does it even work that way? I guess that just would depend on which court gets to make that call.

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

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Pretty massive fact check on biden by community notes lol

 

[goldmom]

SCOTUS says the president can do as he pleases

Don’t you mean SCOTUS said the POTUS can do whatever they please?

 

[goldmom]

It mattered when you were in college and it matters now. I don't care who you are, everyone should want equal rights.

Well you know what? Everyone should. Doggone it we agree. 🙄

 

[SB_SB]

What rights do men have that women don't without the ERA?

Equal rights isn't a one time thing, it's always a concern, and should always be a concern. Every single person, male, female, black, white, ..., should be concerned for equal rights. If you don't then be prepared to lose them. It matters what you vote for and who your vote for. Just because a person has the right to something today doesn't mean that right will be there tomorrow. We saw that with women being able to control their own bodies. If you look at other countries and religions, women are not treated the same.

 

[The Tradition]

"Control their own bodies" or "kill their unborn offspring"?

Anyway, men don't have the right to kill their children so how is that equal?

 

[SB_SB]

Maybe you are one of the new illegal immigrants so you aren’t familiar with the U.S. Constitution, all Americans all ready have equal rights.

Wow, people like you are stupid. I hope trump does buy Greenland. That way in 4 years we can call it Australia North and ship all you MAGAT's there.