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Every few days, another of the many uninformed liberals here, will post the same old fairy tale about Trump colluding with Putin

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To help coach them up...

here's what Barack Obama's own director of national intelligence, James Clapper, said on the topic:

“I never saw any direct empirical evidence that the Trump campaign or someone in it was plotting/conspiring with the Russians to meddle with the election.”
 
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To help coach them up...

here's what Barack Obama's own director of national intelligence, James Clapper, said on the topic:

“I never saw any direct empirical evidence that the Trump campaign or someone in it was plotting/conspiring with the Russians to meddle with the election.”

Curious if you think Putin is America's friend? Should he be trusted?
 
Direct evidence? No.

Quite a few people we know had interactions with Russians connected to Putin.

Do I think Trump directly colluded? No. If nothing else, he wouldn't be able to keep that to himself and it would get out.

Didn't know it was illegal or wrong to have interactions with Russians connected to Putin. If it were, Bill Clinton and numerous other Dems would be guilty also..
 
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May the record show there is now an actual legal document showing the bidens have taken money from the Russian government.

You take money, they own you.

You give money, you own them.
 
Direct evidence? No.

Quite a few people we know had interactions with Russians connected to Putin.

Do I think Trump directly colluded? No. If nothing else, he wouldn't be able to keep that to himself and it would get out.
Is it a crime to do business in Russia? Sheraton has hotels in Russia...what label should we smack on them? Russia sought out upscale hotels as they transferred to a market economy. Rockefeller had bank branches in the Soviet Union during the Cold War. Ford built the largest truck factory (Kama River) in the Soviet Union. It also built tanks they sold to the Soviet Bloc used to kill our men in Vietnam.
 
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Curious if you think Putin is America's friend? Should he be trusted?
Well, he was the first one to call GWB after 9/11 and offered to do anything Bush asked in this fight against terrorism. He also green-lighted our waltz into Afghanistan. They have a terrorist problem as well. He also sent solid information weeks before the Boston Marathon bombing.
 
Well, he was the first one to call GWB after 9/11 and offered to do anything Bush asked in this fight against terrorism. He also green-lighted our waltz into Afghanistan. They have a terrorist problem as well. He also sent solid information weeks before the Boston Marathon bombing.

So you think he is Americas friend. Can you name anything he has done for us recently?
 
I call that a rose

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Don't worry @Nat Algren, I've got you covered here. Can you name anything America has done for anyone else recently? Obomya and drones. Blame America first. Democrats are evil and Republicans are stupid.

Nah, we've not done a lot for anyone other than give them something to laugh at or be disappointed about in the last 4 years.
 
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So you think he is Americas friend. Can you name anything he has done for us recently?
Certainly not now. He made mention of it at the Munich Conference in 2007. Certainly not, since we overthrew the democratically elected government in Ukraine and placed missiles at Moscow. Can you imagine some leader not liking that? Nuclear annihilation. Strange. Meddling in Belarus last month right at their border. Hmmm! You Dems are warmongers always trying to dominate people. You're the antithesis of liberty.
 
Didn't know it was illegal or wrong to have interactions with Russians connected to Putin. If it were, Bill Clinton and numerous other Dems would be guilty also..

When they are members of a political campaign and we know Russians are interfering in the election, and members of that campaign have done business in that country in the past, at best it's highly questionable.

Link to Clinton the candidate having that volume of Russian contacts.
 
When they are members of a political campaign and we know Russians are interfering in the election, and members of that campaign have done business in that country in the past, at best it's highly questionable.

Link to Clinton the candidate having that volume of Russian contacts.

Hillary
 
Odd, why did Senate/House Intel committees, all our Intelligence Agencies all conclude Russia was interfering to help Trump? You'd think if they owned Hillary it'd be the opposite.
Pull up that report and show concrete evidence of interfering to help Trump. Those $54,000 in Facebook ads are equivalent to jaywalking compared to our efforts in '96 to get Yeltsin elected.

From 27 year CIA veteran, Ray McGovern, who furnished the National Intelligence Estimate to GHWB every morning:

The following excerpts from Henry’s testimony speak for themselves. The dialogue is not a paragon of clarity; but if read carefully, even cyber neophytes can understand:

Ranking Member Mr. [Adam] Schiff: Do you know the date on which the Russians exfiltrated the data from the DNC? … when would that have been?

Mr. Henry: Counsel just reminded me that, as it relates to the DNC, we have indicators that data was exfiltrated from the DNC, but we have no indicators that it was exfiltrated (sic). … There are times when we can see data exfiltrated, and we can say conclusively. But in this case, it appears it was set up to be exfiltrated, but we just don’t have the evidence that says it actually left.

Mr. [Chris] Stewart of Utah:
Okay. What about the emails that everyone is so, you know, knowledgeable of? Were there also indicators that they were prepared but not evidence that they actually were exfiltrated?

Mr. Henry: There’s not evidence that they were actually exfiltrated. There’s circumstantial evidence … but no evidence that they were actually exfiltrated. …

Mr. Stewart:
But you have a much lower degree of confidence that this data actually left than you do, for example, that the Russians were the ones who breached the security?

Mr. Henry: There is circumstantial evidence that that data was exfiltrated off the network.

Mr. Stewart: And circumstantial is less sure than the other evidence you’ve indicated. …

Mr. Henry: “We didn’t have a sensor in place that saw data leave. We said that the data left based on the circumstantial evidence. That was the conclusion that we made.

In answer to a follow-up query on this line of questioning, Henry delivered this classic: “Sir, I was just trying to be factually accurate, that we didn’t see the data leave, but we believe it left, based on what we saw.”


Adam Schiff kept this secret for 29 months. When it became public, it got zero attention in the press. Kind of important, dontcha think?
 
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Odd, why did Senate/House Intel committees, all our Intelligence Agencies all conclude Russia was interfering to help Trump? You'd think if they owned Hillary it'd be the opposite.

Even odder is why you think I said they did own Hillary.

Of course you, me and all of our intelligence agencies all know...

that the Democrat party and Hillary Clinton hired a foreign spy to obtain Russian disinformation from members of the Putin Government...

in an attempt to interfere In an American presidential election.
 
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Don't worry @Nat Algren, I've got you covered here. Can you name anything America has done for anyone else recently? Obomya and drones. Blame America first. Democrats are evil and Republicans are stupid.
This requires further commentary. Why do you get to make the rules as to who can get blamed? Why can you sit here on your perch and bellow out GOP bad, all day long? Then the GOP can blast Dems all day. Aren't they the people running government? Why is it you fall prey to the divide and conquer approach pushed by the billionaire political class and turn around and accuse others of dividing America? Grow the F up and direct your venom at the power! As long as you bicker with others and not AT THEM, they are sitting comfortably knowing you are fooled.
 
JFC. Are people like you born in your condition or are your brains manipulated to such imbecility.

So you disagree and somehow...

in denial of all public fact...

believe that Hillary Clinton and the DNC did not pay money to a retired foreign spy to obtain Russian disinformation about Donald Trump from current and former members of Putin's Russian government in order to impact an American Presidential Election?

Facts don't care about your feelings.
 
Bullshit. It was a half-assed event that had no bearing on anything. Like Benghazi. The Orange Turd campaign and its orbit had hundreds of contacts with Russians. The NSA-to-be negotiated with them. You wing nut wackos found something to latch onto and like Benghazi, can't get off the toilet.

You are mental midgets. Face it.

The documented contacts among the Orange Turd campaign and the Russians. Let's see. Who's stupid?
 
Bullshit. It was a half-assed event that had no bearing on anything. Like Benghazi. The Orange Turd campaign and its orbit had hundreds of contacts with Russians. The NSA-to-be negotiated with them. You wing nut wackos found something to latch onto and like Benghazi, can't get off the toilet.

You are mental midgets. Face it.

Facts still don't care about your feelings
 
Documented contacts among Orange Turd campaign and Russians. Hundreds. Facts.

You need to get up with Robert Mueller then...

oh yeah... and James Clapper also...

you know who James Clapper was...

He was Barack Obama's Director of National Intelligence and he said:

“I never saw any direct empirical evidence that the Trump campaign or someone in it was plotting/conspiring with the Russians to meddle with the election.”

Facts will never care about your feelings
 
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You Dems are warmongers always trying to dominate people. You're the antithesis of liberty.
JFC you are a broken record. I wonder where you get such ideas. Perhaps...

"One example of pro-Putin, pro-Assad “left-wing” propaganda combined with gutter journalism is the World Socialist Web Site (WSWS), run by a “Trotskyist” cult led by a political sicko named David North, which perpetuates a long worn-out tradition of inter-Trotskyist sectarian quarrels in fulfilling its role as apologist for Putin, Assad, and their friends. Another example is Grayzone, a website founded by a particularly versatile character named Max Blumenthal.

These websites have in common the habit of demonizing all left-wing critics of Putin and the likes of Assad by describing them as “agents of imperialism” or some equivalent. The main “target market” assigned to them is naturally the left-wing readership. This implies that they must strive not only to convince their readers of the virtues of Moscow and its clients by a resort to fake “left-wing” and “anti-imperialist” arguments, but also and most importantly to discredit their left-wing critics. In doing so, they resort to the oldest trick of the slandering profession: outright lies.


https://newpol.org/on-gutter-journalism-and-purported-anti-imperialism/
 
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