We had a response. We overthrew the democratically elected leader in Ukraine. We're culpable. We violated the agreement.You’re the one crying that my country had no response to Ukraine pointing missiles at your country.
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We had a response. We overthrew the democratically elected leader in Ukraine. We're culpable. We violated the agreement.You’re the one crying that my country had no response to Ukraine pointing missiles at your country.
A cherry picker, huh? Now, answer the others!Russia must invade the Ukraine because of Napoleon!
Let's see. Did the Soviets suffer 27.5M lives after Germany invaded?
Did Napoleon invade Russia?
Did NATO violate the terms of their agreement in the 90's and swallow up 13 former Warsaw Pact members or not?
Did Washington overthrow the democratically elected leader of Ukraine in '14 or not?
Is Washington/NATO placing missiles on Russia's border that could annihilate them or is Russia in Mexico?
Putin should be shot for treason if he does not take action. Can you not see the threats to their security?
Quite the position you've taken. Not only is Russia justified to invade another country, but Putin should be shot if he doesn't. Never try to act like you are against war on here again, Nat.Let's see. Did the Soviets suffer 27.5M lives after Germany invaded?
Did Napoleon invade Russia?
Did NATO violate the terms of their agreement in the 90's and swallow up 13 former Warsaw Pact members or not?
Did Washington overthrow the democratically elected leader of Ukraine in '14 or not?
Is Washington/NATO placing missiles on Russia's border that could annihilate them or is Russia in Mexico?
Putin should be shot for treason if he does not take action. Can you not see the threats to their security?
Answer the questions!Quite the position you've taken. Not only is Russia justified to invade another country, but Putin should be shot if he doesn't. Never try to act like you are against war on here again, Nat.
Dude, you're not going to convince me war is justified. Sorry. I'll answer yes to all your questions I still don't think Russia should invade Ukraine. If Russia did all that stuff to Mexico I would also be against the US invading Mexico.Answer the questions!
If you answer "yes" to all those questions, how is it possible for you to call Russia the aggressor?Dude, you're not going to convince me war is justified. Sorry. I'll answer yes to all your questions I still don't think Russia should invade Ukraine. If Russia did all that stuff to Mexico I would also be against the US invading Mexico.
Sure, buddy.If you answer "yes" to all those questions, how is it possible for you to call Russia the aggressor?
Isn't it Washington/NATO that is putting millions of lives in danger?
Wouldn't this all go away if US/NATO took all their missiles out of the former Warsaw member states as agreed by both parties?
I'm in favor of walking this back. This has been a bonanza for the MIC and the $1T a year they suck from taxpayers. You are in favor of this. That makes you pro-war. I oppose it. I'm anti-war.
I know this is your way of saying, "Well shit, Nat...you're right and I'm wrong."Sure, buddy.
Yeah, you are right. I now think war is bad unless Russia needs to go to war. If Russia doesn't get what they want, war is good. Think about what you are saying.I know this is your way of saying, "Well shit, Nat...you're right and I'm wrong."
Ty for acknowledging!
I'm thinking if the neocon warmongers in Washington revert back to the agreement of 1990, peace can be had. Birds will be singing, children will be laughing, yada yada. Why aren't you mad at Washington for their aggression and breaking agreements?Yeah, you are right. I now think war is bad unless Russia needs to go to war. If Russia doesn't get what they want, war is good. Think about what you are saying.
I’m unaware that I posted such...don’t believe I was in such a thread...🧐The horror is your spectacular ignorance on the topic. Last week, you were completely unaware that Washington agreed that NATO would not to move 1 inch east of Germany. Now, you're getting all puffy.
I don't believe you know what day it is. You put the rot in HROT.I’m unaware that I posted such...don’t believe I was in such a thread...🧐
If I'm mistaken, surely there's a link somewhere proving that I did indeed opine on the movements of NATO?I don't believe you know what day it is. You put the rot in HROT.
You can write as many words as you want, but what it comes down to is both US and Russia are making their case for war. I reject both side's propaganda. You only reject one side's. But somehow you criticize others for believing propaganda. You need to see you are one of the worst offenders of believing propaganda. You just believe Russia's and not the US.I'm thinking if the neocon warmongers in Washington revert back to the agreement of 1990, peace can be had. Birds will be singing, children will be laughing, yada yada. Why aren't you mad at Washington for their aggression and breaking agreements?
I'm thinking that NATO is rabidly anti-Russian. Hate is a learned behavior. Capitalism needs an enemy and it has sucked taxpayers dry. Russia has $75T in natural resources and couldn't give rat's ass about Country 404. In fact, after Washington and Cookie Puss, Victoria Nuland overthrew the democratically elected leader, Yanukovych, Moscow refused to accept the referendum of the separatists in Donbass. They were granted a status of autonomy. Moscow does not want to take on another 20M pensioners. They could have waltzed through Ukraine in 1 month. They didn't.
If, and it is more than likely now, that R does go in...it will be quick. They will take out all military infrastructure that is designed to offensively annihilate R and return home.
JFK, rightly did not allow nukes in Cuba. Then again, we installed nukes in Turkey and Italy in '61 directed at Moscow.
Putin was elected to protect R's citizens. Allowing that peace-hating organization in Brussels to place missiles on Russia's border is suicidal.
Again not answering questions posed to you.You can write as many words as you want, but what it comes down to is both US and Russia are making their case for war. I reject both side's propaganda. You only reject one side's. But somehow you criticize others for believing propaganda. You need to see you are one of the worst offenders of believing propaganda. You just believe Russia's and not the US.
I think the Russians will gradually react quite adversely and it will affect their policies. I think it is a tragic mistake. There was no reason for this whatsoever. No one was threatening anybody else.
What is the Washington side that I am arguing in this thread?Again not answering questions posed to you.
I trust no government. Anyone sitting in high office most likely got there but stomping on someone's neck. I've been proven correct every time on this board as you gullible f@#ks bought into all the lies over the past 5 years. You don't read the international press. You just read what the 5 corporations spoon feed you. Case in point on this thread. You tried arguing the Washington side. You were caught off guard by me arguing the truth and lost. The truth will out.
Also, are you aware that Russia gave Washington their redlines in '08?
He seems to have a more acute understanding of the situation than everyone else. I don’t know enough to have an opinion myself.I guess the next thing that united Dems and GOP after 9/11, was how much of a dumb F @Nat Algren is. This board hasn't been in unison this much since BAU and OP's Mom (F U @BABiscuit 😉)
He seems to have a more acute understanding of the situation than everyone else. I don’t know enough to have an opinion myself.
Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah...that's not how this works. Go back and answer the questions posed to you. It's how adults have conversations.What is the Washington side that I am arguing in this thread?
Me: Russia, Ukraine, US - none of us should go to war
You: Putin should be shot if he doesn't go to war. (not to mentioned how bonered up you are getting thinking about how fast Russia will be able to overpower Ukraine. Real warmongering stuff from you).
FU asswipe. You've contributed zip to this thread and come out swinging. Try a dialogue if you think you're ready to punch above your weight. Until then...F off!I guess the next thing that united Dems and GOP after 9/11, was how much of a dumb F @Nat Algren is. This board hasn't been in unison this much since BAU and OP's Mom (F U @BABiscuit 😉)
Show me where I've been wrong! I've taken the arrows for 5 years from you conspiracy wackos pushing the Russiagate hoax. I was right. Even Russkies paying the Taliban. How fugging dumb are you! It's rhetorical. No need to answer the obvious.Sure, he probably thinks that of himself too. One thing I do have a good enough opinion on (as others do) is that he's gone batshit crazy one too many times to have any type of credibility
FU asswipe. You've contributed zip to this thread and come out swinging. Try a dialogue if you think you're ready to punch above your weight. Until then...F off!
Because it's kind of the essence of what this board is about? This is your chance, Sunshine. Put your cards on the table or STFU and grab that seat on the bench where you have grown roots your whole life.LOL! Why would I want any kind of dialogue with a know it all? You're never wrong. It's like arguing with Joe about COVID. The funniest thing is that you think you have all of these things figured out. Like you got an answer to all the questions. When in reality you're babe in the woods like the rest of us, otherwise you'd been thrown in the ocean long ago
Nay is an interesting case study. Obviously a foreign actor but on an Iowa OT message board. I'm sure that if it was your job you could be the "rivals guy" and split time among handles.... The Russians aren't good at much but they are persistent.We had a response. We overthrew the democratically elected leader in Ukraine. We're culpable. We violated the agreement.
Who is Nay? Type in English! And try making a fugging point!Nay is an interesting case study. Obviously a foreign actor but on an Iowa OT message board. I'm sure that if it was your job you could be the "rivals guy" and split time among handles.... The Russians aren't good at much but they are persistent.
Oh, its you. My point is you're a foreign agent and we all see it. My second point is that it's interesting to see how it works.Who is Nay? Type in English! And try making a fugging point!
Okay Hillary. Whatever helps you avoid a discussion.Oh, its you. My point is you're a foreign agent and we all see it. My second point is that it's interesting to see how it works.
Okay Hillary. Whatever helps you avoid a discussion.
The trend, as it has always been, is the Elites manufacture consent of the Boobus masses (YOU et al) to carry their water. You're nothing but a little lamb grazing peacefully, sheepishly even, to the slaughterhouse. It's a badge of honor that you separate me from the dopes on this site.You're probably starting to see a trend here that nobody takes you seriously. You're here because we like to mock you. Once we bore of you we'll throw you in the garbage like the rest of the bots.
@seminole97 has a much better code upgrade when it comes to interactions with humans anyways. He still sounds like a bot but much better at disguising it than you.