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Fant's brother needs to shut his pie hole....

Fant is the best TE on your team but I do agree his brother and family should shut the hell up.
 
Did Fant's brother say something today that I missed? Or is this idiot (ISU fan) trolling? Why don't u bring up Eno while u are at it? Seriously, u lost 13-3 and will always be little brother now go away. Now if u are a Hawk fan than u are beyond help.
I'm not sure if he said anything today but he has in the past and it not making him any friends in the program.
 
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Anyone that wants to argue with me only needs to watch the first play of the game to see Fant's efforts at blocking. He and Hock double and Fant comes of the block to the little cornerback who proceeds to drive Fant RIGHT OFF THE FIELD INTO THE BENCH. On the second play he BLOCKS NO ONE and appears to ask Hock who he was supposed to block. I can go on.
 
You still didn't answer my question, which no one has. Being critical of a player, no matter how good you believe he is was not trashing him. I made no reference to him as a person, only to his performance (and his performance all year has been less than expected). Fant hasn't earned anything YET, besides 3rd team all conference last year. Pre-season picks mean nothing, you still have to earn it on the field, and he's not earning it. The only person I was 'trashing' was Fant's brother. Sorry it is hard for people to understand, and most only understand what their biases allow.

I'm sure you defend the coaches and the players you don't think are stars with the same vigor when they are criticized on here.....NOT!

You can't even own up to trashing him. Sad.
 
Well, he was second team midseason AP all american so this is a lie.
I had not seen that, so I stand corrected. A lie is usually intentional, and this was just an oversight on my part, so your saying I lied, is a little bit of an overstatement. I don't like to give incorrect information so I appreciate you pointing this out to me and I will correct my error. Thanks.
 
You can't even own up to trashing him. Sad.
You cannot make a case to how you believe I have, and what I have said that is incorrect? You haven't even attempted to. Even sadder. Again, what is incorrect?
You act like I'm saying something he's not hearing from the coaching staff. And after re-watching the game from Saturday I feel even stronger about my observations. Hock is by far a better TE in all aspects at this time. He has improved immensely in all facets, while Fant has shown little to no improvement from last year. Have you ever listened to KF talk about how they expect the best players to get better? How it's the only way for a program like theirs to reach certain levels.
Fant is a good athlete and when they get him in certain isolated match-ups, he can make some plays, but it takes more than that. and it takes CONSISTENCY and he is falling farther behind Hock with every game. He needs to step it up if this team is going to reach certain goals. What don't you understand, unless, you are his brother!!!
 
You cannot make a case to how you believe I have, and what I have said that is incorrect? You haven't even attempted to. Even sadder. Again, what is incorrect?
You act like I'm saying something he's not hearing from the coaching staff. And after re-watching the game from Saturday I feel even stronger about my observations. Hock is by far a better TE in all aspects at this time. He has improved immensely in all facets, while Fant has shown little to no improvement from last year. Have you ever listened to KF talk about how they expect the best players to get better? How it's the only way for a program like theirs to reach certain levels.
Fant is a good athlete and when they get him in certain isolated match-ups, he can make some plays, but it takes more than that. and it takes CONSISTENCY and he is falling farther behind Hock with every game. He needs to step it up if this team is going to reach certain goals. What don't you understand, unless, you are his brother!!!

You are the worst form of troll on these boards, and that is saying something. Permanent ban wouldn't be fast enough. Fant has done nothing but receive high praise from KF all along.
 
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You cannot make a case to how you believe I have, and what I have said that is incorrect? You haven't even attempted to. Even sadder. Again, what is incorrect?
You act like I'm saying something he's not hearing from the coaching staff. And after re-watching the game from Saturday I feel even stronger about my observations. Hock is by far a better TE in all aspects at this time. He has improved immensely in all facets, while Fant has shown little to no improvement from last year. Have you ever listened to KF talk about how they expect the best players to get better? How it's the only way for a program like theirs to reach certain levels.
Fant is a good athlete and when they get him in certain isolated match-ups, he can make some plays, but it takes more than that. and it takes CONSISTENCY and he is falling farther behind Hock with every game. He needs to step it up if this team is going to reach certain goals. What don't you understand, unless, you are his brother!!!

You're quickly becoming worse than Herbie/Kilroy, etc...just let it go. You routinely offer opinions that you suggest are facts but just because you say it doesn't mean its a fact. This topic was already dead and for some reason after a shutout performance this past Saturday, you elected to go into your closet to retrieve your baseball bat so you could take a few more swings at the dead horse. You started the thread by suggesting Fants brother needs to shut up (he had gone silent on social media for over a week, so he didn't need your help) but perhaps you should take your own advice, I suspect the majority here would greatly appreciate it.
 
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You cannot make a case to how you believe I have, and what I have said that is incorrect? You haven't even attempted to. Even sadder. Again, what is incorrect?
You act like I'm saying something he's not hearing from the coaching staff. And after re-watching the game from Saturday I feel even stronger about my observations. Hock is by far a better TE in all aspects at this time. He has improved immensely in all facets, while Fant has shown little to no improvement from last year. Have you ever listened to KF talk about how they expect the best players to get better? How it's the only way for a program like theirs to reach certain levels.
Fant is a good athlete and when they get him in certain isolated match-ups, he can make some plays, but it takes more than that. and it takes CONSISTENCY and he is falling farther behind Hock with every game. He needs to step it up if this team is going to reach certain goals. What don't you understand, unless, you are his brother!!!

There is nothing to say when someone is full of shit. You clearly have an agenda to be a troll. Sad. You get caught lying and you can't even admit to it. Not sure what personal issues you have going on but you may want to deal with them.
 
There is nothing to say when someone is full of shit. You clearly have an agenda to be a troll. Sad. You get caught lying and you can't even admit to it. Not sure what personal issues you have going on but you may want to deal with them.
I already addressed that I was incorrect (most on here don't even do that), but you obviously don't know the definition of a lie, or you wouldn't make such an ignorant statement.
You are the one who seems to have a problem/obsession as you still have not even ATTEMPTED to address what I originally posted, you merely and sadly only attempt to marginalize the poster. Do you believe the coaches and Fant are happy with his play and are denying his deficiencies? If you do, then you are very naive and/or ingenuous.
I made easily substantiated statements about Fant and only insulted his brother, so I'm thinking you must be related to him.
Are you going to address my critique of him? I assure you I am more qualified than you are to do so. If you are not going to talk about how I am wrong about his performance(s), using solid evidence, quit coming back. Why you are so upset and obsessed about this is concerning. Do you obsess with a lot of things that upset you?
Debate the facts, or let it go my friend.
 
I already addressed that I was incorrect (most on here don't even do that), but you obviously don't know the definition of a lie, or you wouldn't make such an ignorant statement.
You are the one who seems to have a problem/obsession as you still have not even ATTEMPTED to address what I originally posted, you merely and sadly only attempt to marginalize the poster. Do you believe the coaches and Fant are happy with his play and are denying his deficiencies? If you do, then you are very naive and/or ingenuous.
I made easily substantiated statements about Fant and only insulted his brother, so I'm thinking you must be related to him.
Are you going to address my critique of him? I assure you I am more qualified than you are to do so. If you are not going to talk about how I am wrong about his performance(s), using solid evidence, quit coming back. Why you are so upset and obsessed about this is concerning. Do you obsess with a lot of things that upset you?
Debate the facts, or let it go my friend.

You think your opinion is a fact.... that is how dumb you are. Why are you typing in all caps? Looks like someone is getting really angry and triggered again when they are called out for lying and trolling.
 
I already addressed that I was incorrect (most on here don't even do that), but you obviously don't know the definition of a lie, or you wouldn't make such an ignorant statement.
You are the one who seems to have a problem/obsession as you still have not even ATTEMPTED to address what I originally posted, you merely and sadly only attempt to marginalize the poster. Do you believe the coaches and Fant are happy with his play and are denying his deficiencies? If you do, then you are very naive and/or ingenuous.
I made easily substantiated statements about Fant and only insulted his brother, so I'm thinking you must be related to him.
Are you going to address my critique of him? I assure you I am more qualified than you are to do so. If you are not going to talk about how I am wrong about his performance(s), using solid evidence, quit coming back. Why you are so upset and obsessed about this is concerning. Do you obsess with a lot of things that upset you?
Debate the facts, or let it go my friend.

which one are you, the one on the left or right? you've got a closet full of these types of outfits, don't ya?

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You're quickly becoming worse than Herbie/Kilroy, etc...just let it go. You routinely offer opinions that you suggest are facts but just because you say it doesn't mean its a fact. This topic was already dead and for some reason after a shutout performance this past Saturday, you elected to go into your closet to retrieve your baseball bat so you could take a few more swings at the dead horse. You started the thread by suggesting Fants brother needs to shut up (he had gone silent on social media for over a week, so he didn't need your help) but perhaps you should take your own advice, I suspect the majority here would greatly appreciate it.
I am just responding to all my friends on here who are obsessed with continuing give me a hard time as opposed to discussing the observations and critiques that I made. I don't know who Herbie/Kilroy is and what other people do is no concern of mine.
Funny how people are more interested in talking about me, or insulting me, than they are talking about the evidence of the observations that I presented. Seems to be the way of the world now. Thanks for you input.
 
which one are you, the one on the left or right? you've got a closet full of these types of outfits, don't ya?

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Once again you prove my point. It is you simpletons who keep this going. You do not address the issue(s), you simply believe if you can somehow insult me using jejune and juvenile methods you have somehow won an argument.
Just so you know, I got rid of all those 'outfits' years ago. But I had some and they were comfortable, thank you.
 
Once again you prove my point. It is you simpletons who keep this going. You do not address the issue(s), you simply believe if you can somehow insult me using jejune and juvenile methods you have somehow won an argument.
Just so you know, I got rid of all those 'outfits' years ago. But I had some and they were comfortable, thank you.

They mean the same thing but nice effort in an attempt to sound intelligent.
 
You think your opinion is a fact.... that is how dumb you are. Why are you typing in all caps? Looks like someone is getting really angry and triggered again when they are called out for lying and trolling.
Where did I say that, oh obsessed one? Lol. No, I think evidence is not opinion. I provided specific evidence to support my statement, not opinion, nor did I indicate that evidence is fact.
David, I have looked at this site enough to know that you troll posters all the time attempting to get them all upset. You have no effect on me. You don't even make sense half the time, and jump all over the place just trying to get reactions. I've got other threads and intelligent conversations to attend to. You can play your little games without me. Thanks.
 
Where did I say that, oh obsessed one? Lol. No, I think evidence is not opinion. I provided specific evidence to support my statement, not opinion, nor did I indicate that evidence is fact.
David, I have looked at this site enough to know that you troll posters all the time attempting to get them all upset. You have no effect on me. You don't even make sense half the time, and jump all over the place just trying to get reactions. I've got other threads and intelligent conversations to attend to. You can play your little games without me. Thanks.

Classic deflection. Take everything you do and try to put it on me. You didn't provide specific evidence. All you did was state an opinion and then tried by force of will or stupidity to make it seem like facts. That is what you constantly do. And you do it intentionally. I wish you would just admit that you like to troll and lie and move on.
 
They mean the same thing but nice effort in an attempt to sound intelligent.
They don't, but you know that. You're just hoping everyone else doesn't know that.
You are really obsessed there tiger. I'm starting to think you have some feelings towards me. Are you going to be chiming in on all my posts in every thread? Will we be dating at that point?
 
They don't, but you know that. You're just hoping everyone else doesn't know that.
You are really obsessed there tiger. I'm starting to think you have some feelings towards me. Are you going to be chiming in on all my posts in every thread? Will we be dating at that point?

Maybe you don't know what a synonym is?
 
Classic deflection. Take everything you do and try to put it on me. You didn't provide specific evidence. All you did was state an opinion and then tried by force of will or stupidity to make it seem like facts. That is what you constantly do. And you do it intentionally. I wish you would just admit that you like to troll and lie and move on.
You are obsessed. I bet you are single and have always had relationship problems. Are we in a relationship?
 
Has anyone noticed when Iowa goes tempo how effective Fant & Hock are in the passing game?? I didn’t see any tempo against Maryland, I wonder why? Wind, maybe? Oh yeah, May God Bless all of your souls.. For the record I think Fant & Hock are both excellent ball players and athletes.. hope whatever is dinged up on Fant gets right.
 
You have become an obnoxious pot stirrer.
I'm stirring the pot? People just keep coming and coming on this thread, not to debate my statement, but just to continue to insult me and hope to marginalize me. Why are you still following this thread? Seriously?
It would be on page 3 or 4 now if people would just let it go, but it keeps popping up in my feed, not because of anything I'm doing. You are entitled to your feelings even though I don't agree with them.

Want to talk football? I do.
 
I'm stirring the pot? People just keep coming and coming on this thread, not to debate my statement, but just to continue to insult me and hope to marginalize me. Why are you still following this thread? Seriously?
It would be on page 3 or 4 now if people would just let it go, but it keeps popping up in my feed, not because of anything I'm doing. You are entitled to your feelings even though I don't agree with them.

Want to talk football? I do.

Don't play the victim here Coach. You decided minutes after Iowa's shutout victory that you needed to start a new thread and try to beat on the dead horse some more, specifically calling out a players family member and telling him to shut his pie hole when that is exactly what he had done since making his social media comments over a week ago. There was no need to start a new thread and pick the scab from a relatively fresh scar so to speak. You've been called out as a result and deservedly so. If you simply wanted to talk football you wouldn't have started the thread in the first place. If you would let it go this thread would go away, but you can't help yourself in your attempts to stir the pot and always get the last word in. Your initial post was stupid just as many of your replies have been, just admit it and move on.
 
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Don't play the victim here Coach. You decided minutes after Iowa's shutout victory that you needed to start a new thread and try to beat on the dead horse some more, specifically calling out a players family member and telling him to shut his pie hole when that is exactly what he had done since making his social media comments over a week ago. There was no need to start a new thread and pick the scab from a relatively fresh scar so to speak. You've been called out as a result and deservedly so. If you simply wanted to talk football you wouldn't have started the thread in the first place. If you would let it go this thread would go away, but you can't help yourself in your attempts to stir the pot and always get the last word in. Your initial post was stupid just as many of your replies have been, just admit it and move on.
I'm not a victim, I just want people to discuss the specifics of what I said. That is all. I thought this thread was dead but YOU kept it alive. I'm not posting NEW info on this thread, you morons are the ones keeping it alive. It will die when people stop posting on it. Pretty simple, right?
 
I'm not a victim, I just want people to discuss the specifics of what I said. That is all. I thought this thread was dead but YOU kept it alive. I'm not posting NEW info on this thread, you morons are the ones keeping it alive. It will die when people stop posting on it. Pretty simple, right?

You are responsible for starting this thread, getting called out and then you contribute 32 replies to your own thread that consists of 111 posts overall, so suggesting we are the morons and we are the ones that keep this going is laughable. Here is a challenge for you coach (besides dressing and feeding yourself), just walk away from this thread and don't add another reply...that is how this thread will drop from the front page and disappear in short order. But you can't help yourself and will inevitably respond by calling others morons and try once again to convince others that you know more about football than anyone. Again, I challenge you to not post again in this thread and it will disappear by the end of the day.
 
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