Dream on magatYep, end of the day this is a small issue in terms of the election. Very few will vote based on this.
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Dream on magatYep, end of the day this is a small issue in terms of the election. Very few will vote based on this.
https://amp.france24.com/en/20180525-abortion-laws-vary-eu-ireland-malta-poland-terminationDude, I'm not signing up for an account at that place.
As to whether Mississippi's law = Europe per abortion, See link--apparently very very misleading.Most of Europe is at 12 weeks for “elective” abortions
Legal time frames for abortion in European countries 2020 | Statista
In 2020, in European countries where abortions are legal, a specific time frame varied from 10 to 24 weeks.www.statista.com
I would be good with a compromise like this, but the first question that comes to my mind is whether the federal government is able to pass a law that limits states' ability to create laws in this manner. Could the federal government also set standards for state laws on theft and fraud, for example? Seems like the 10th Amendment may come into play here. I question whether Congress and the federal government has that authority.Schumer put forward a Abortion bill he knew would fail last month. Didn’t even consider the Collins/Murkowski bill.
Senators Collins and Murkowski Introduce Bill to Codify Supreme Court Decisions on Reproductive Rights: Roe v. Wade and Planned Parenthood v. Casey | U.S. Senator Susan Collins of Maine
Washington, D.C. – U.S. Senators Susan Collins (R-ME) and Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) introduced...www.collins.senate.gov
That bill gets more votes but probably doesn’t reach 60 and is filibustered
Why not put forward a baseline Federal Bill that sets the limit a state can go to in regards to abortion restrictions to 12 weeks with exceptions for rape/incest and the life of the mother.
States would have the option to extend the 12 weeks to the original Roe standard or somewhere in between if their legislatures see fit. So states like California would keep their existing abortion laws as long as it kept within Roe
A bill like this has positives IMO
1. It probably gets 60+ votes
2. If any “moderate” R’s vote against they’d make themselves instantly vulnerable. Right now they can hide behind the Supreme Court Decision and Schumers original bill.
3. We can avoid years of tiresome abortion threads for years to come on HORT.
Good question. From what I’ve been reading on the subject they could…but I’m not an expert on the subjectI would be good with a compromise like this, but the first question that comes to my mind is whether the federal government is able to pass a law that limits states' ability to create laws in this manner. Could the federal government also set standards for state laws on theft and fraud, for example? Seems like the 10th Amendment may come into play here. I question whether Congress and the federal government has that authority.
Europes laws aren’t very consistent…basically span the spectrum.As to whether Mississippi's law = Europe per abortion, See link--apparently very very misleading.
Does France have more restrictive abortion policy than Mississippi? (SPOILER: no and please stop pretending you know anything about abortion policy) - Lawyers, Guns & Money
Not this shit again: This is of course just ignorant dilettantism: It is, at best, extremely misleading to say that France or Denmark “bans” abortion starting in the second trimester. Their “bans” have very broad exceptions that are generally liberally applied. Neither on paper or in practice...www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com
If they can articulate a commerce clause hook, yes.Good question. From what I’ve been reading on the subject they could…but I’m not an expert on the subject
And the 12 week cut-offs pretty much universally aren't actually 12 week cut-offs, after that pretty much everywhere you have extended out to at least 24 weeks exceptions for health of the mother that include mental health.Europes laws aren’t very consistent…basically span the spectrum.
"Why not put forward a baseline Federal Bill that sets the limit a state can go " - because they don't have the power to? It's not up to the national government to determine how states make lawsSchumer put forward a Abortion bill he knew would fail last month. Didn’t even consider the Collins/Murkowski bill.
Senators Collins and Murkowski Introduce Bill to Codify Supreme Court Decisions on Reproductive Rights: Roe v. Wade and Planned Parenthood v. Casey | U.S. Senator Susan Collins of Maine
Washington, D.C. – U.S. Senators Susan Collins (R-ME) and Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) introduced...www.collins.senate.gov
That bill gets more votes but probably doesn’t reach 60 and is filibustered
Why not put forward a baseline Federal Bill that sets the limit a state can go to in regards to abortion restrictions to 12 weeks with exceptions for rape/incest and the life of the mother.
States would have the option to extend the 12 weeks to the original Roe standard or somewhere in between if their legislatures see fit. So states like California would keep their existing abortion laws as long as it kept within Roe
A bill like this has positives IMO
1. It probably gets 60+ votes
2. If any “moderate” R’s vote against they’d make themselves instantly vulnerable. Right now they can hide behind the Supreme Court Decision and Schumers original bill.
3. We can avoid years of tiresome abortion threads for years to come on HORT.
Schumer put forward a Abortion bill he knew would fail last month. Didn’t even consider the Collins/Murkowski bill.
Senators Collins and Murkowski Introduce Bill to Codify Supreme Court Decisions on Reproductive Rights: Roe v. Wade and Planned Parenthood v. Casey | U.S. Senator Susan Collins of Maine
Washington, D.C. – U.S. Senators Susan Collins (R-ME) and Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) introduced...www.collins.senate.gov
That bill gets more votes but probably doesn’t reach 60 and is filibustered
Why not put forward a baseline Federal Bill that sets the limit a state can go to in regards to abortion restrictions to 12 weeks with exceptions for rape/incest and the life of the mother.
States would have the option to extend the 12 weeks to the original Roe standard or somewhere in between if their legislatures see fit. So states like California would keep their existing abortion laws as long as it kept within Roe
A bill like this has positives IMO
1. It probably gets 60+ votes
2. If any “moderate” R’s vote against they’d make themselves instantly vulnerable. Right now they can hide behind the Supreme Court Decision and Schumers original bill.
3. We can avoid years of tiresome abortion threads for years to come on HORT.
"Why not put forward a baseline Federal Bill that sets the limit a state can go " - because they don't have the power to? It's not up to the national government to determine how states make laws
National 55 speed limit before that...sure glad that went away.Meh they can use their influence via federal dollars to do things like that. Same way they made the drinking age 21 across the country. It's been done before.