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Dumb. Kevin Warren is acting on behalf and at the behest of the university presidents - the collective who determined the fate of football. That's like starting a petition to terminate the church secretary for announcing that services and other church functions are cancelled.
 
Dumb. Kevin Warren is acting on behalf and at the behest of the university presidents - the collective who determined the fate of football. That's like starting a petition to terminate the church secretary for announcing that services and other church functions are cancelled.

Agree,such a knee jerk reaction.
There is still time to give it more thought.
 
Dumb. Kevin Warren is acting on behalf and at the behest of the university presidents - the collective who determined the fate of football. That's like starting a petition to terminate the church secretary for announcing that services and other church functions are cancelled.
Nevermind he put out a schedule, 3 days later he wanted to play in the spring, arrogantly tried to get support from the other P5's because the B1G was going it alone no matter what.

Then when there was tremendous blowback finds a condition that can happen with the common cold. By his new standard we should never play any sport ever.
 
Dumb. Kevin Warren is acting on behalf and at the behest of the university presidents - the collective who determined the fate of football. That's like starting a petition to terminate the church secretary for announcing that services and other church functions are cancelled.

Pretty much agree nu2u. Warren may share some blame for not getting the presidents to agree on a solution, but ultimately they voted, he did not. He did have to be the one who ended up taking the brunt of everything in the aftermath, while so far none of the presidents have had to explain why they voted no (at least not that I've seen).

If folks want to have action, they need to make the appeal and apply leverage to the presidents. That is a much higher bar to hurdle, the only path to that is media pressure and pressuring the Board of Regents or equivalent for every school.
 
Nevermind he put out a schedule, 3 days later he wanted to play in the spring, arrogantly tried to get support from the other P5's because the B1G was going it alone no matter what.

Then when there was tremendous blowback finds a condition that can happen with the common cold. By his new standard we should never play any sport ever.
I am not overly impressed on how he managed his mission but I'm not the one doing his performance review. If I was, I'd dock him for how nice he was to Scott Frost.
 
Let's see how the dominoes fall first before we play the blame game.

That said, having a son that plays in a rival conference (and one that has not cancelled fall sports as of this moment) is not a good look. If the SEC ends up playing some games this fall, he had better tell his son to sit.
 
If the SEC ends up playing some games this fall, he had better tell his son to sit.
Warren is in a no-win public conundrum vis-à-vis his son and football.

If he allows his son (or his son decides) to play, he will be deemed by some to be a hypocrite.
If he prohibits him from playing (and his son decides to sit), he will be regarded by some as an overbearing parent of an adult son.

If I were in his shoes, I would discuss the risks and rewards privately but ultimately let my son decide for himself.
 
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Yes the presidents and chancellors made this decision but it seemed they lead him to this. Not him leading them what the direction athletics should be doing. Not a sign of a good leader.
 
Yes the presidents and chancellors made this decision but it seemed they lead him to this. Not him leading them what the direction athletics should be doing. Not a sign of a good leader.
Practically everything I've read so far seems to indicate that the university presidents were deferring to the B10's Covid-19 medical task force.. It's likely that Warren was also ….. and the advice of legal counsel as well.
 
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Agree,such a knee jerk reaction.
There is still time to give it more thought.
If there was a vote of university presidents as has been reported, the commissioner should have given those political phonies more time to reconsider their positions. If other conferences continue with a season and have no covid-related problems, the conference has at least embarrassed itself and the consequences could be much more significant.
 
Nevermind he put out a schedule, 3 days later he wanted to play in the spring,

True. Also true is that, at the same moment he released the revised schedule, he said that just because they released a schedule did NOT mean there would be a season in the fall.

You're mad. You want football this fall. Cool. So do the rest of us. But blaming the commissioner for doing the right thing in the face of a pandemic is, if you'll pardon my language, stupid. But then no wonder people can't recognize honesty, integrity, and leadership when they see it these days. It's entirely absent in many governor's mansions and, absolutely, in that big white house on Pennsylvania Ave.

You wanna fire somebody over this, start at the top: fire the fraudulent president of this country. You may have heard of him. He's the one who, during the midst of a pandemic, demanded to know what the process would be to add his mug to Mt. Rushmore and who, just this week, told the EPA to change the rules on water conservation because he wanted more water pressure in his shower.

The list of egregious abuses of power, of an abject lack of empathy, of a dearth of leadership is, literally, endless. And you wanna fire the commissioner of the Big Ten....

You, and those like you, need to get a life and borrow a brain. Of course that's just my opinion. Then again, it's all about opinions these days, right? Facts and reality don't matter. And all opinions are equal. BS.
 
The B1G hired a guy who chose to send his kid to a school not even in the conference? And he might allow his kid to play after cancelling the B1G season? You've got to be shitting me.....
 
Is it possible Warren would actually prefer to play? His job is communicate the wishes of the majority of the presidents/ADs. To call for his head is ridiculous.
 
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The B1G hired a guy who chose to send his kid to a school not even in the conference? And he might allow his kid to play after cancelling the B1G season? You've got to be shitting me.....
He "chose to send his kid to school not in the conference"?

How the hell do you know that his son did not have a say, the final say, about where he wanted to go to college? Are you foolish enough to believe that all kids are automatically bound to attend a college decided upon for them by their parents? If so, if that's what you believe, maybe your parents should have better chosen where you attended school.
 
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He "chose to send his kid to school not in the conference"?

How the hell do you know that his son did not have a say, the final say, about where he wanted to go to college? Are you foolish enough to believe that all kids are automatically bound to attend a college decided upon for them by their parents? If so, if that's what you believe, maybe your parents should have better chosen where you attended school.
I think they both probably played a part in the decision. My point still stands.
 
I think they both probably played a part in the decision. My point still stands.
Well, this contradicts your earlier statement so which point still stands? At least you moved from a position of claiming actual fact ("he chose") to speculation ("I think they ..probably..").
 
Well, this contradicts your earlier statement so which point still stands?
That we shouldn't have hired a president whose own kid doesn't even go to a conference school. .and that he might actually play football for another conference with his father's blessing...... Understand now? This really isn't hard unless you make it hard.
 
Let's see how the dominoes fall first before we play the blame game.

That said, having a son that plays in a rival conference (and one that has not cancelled fall sports as of this moment) is not a good look. If the SEC ends up playing some games this fall, he had better tell his son to sit.

And if his son says "Dad I'm an adult and will make my own decision. Thanks for your concern"
And we will never hear that conversation between them so why are everyone saying that would look bad?
 
If there was a vote of university presidents as has been reported, the commissioner should have given those political phonies more time to reconsider their positions. If other conferences continue with a season and have no covid-related problems, the conference has at least embarrassed itself and the consequences could be much more significant.
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And I think more time should be given before he should be fired just because everyone wants to play football.
I want them to have a season too. But I'm not on the bandwagon to fire a guy who expressed the decision/vote of the presidents.
 
And if his son says "Dad I'm an adult and will make my own decision. Thanks for your concern"
And we will never hear that conversation between them so why are everyone saying that would look bad?
Some here are in an angry fit of revenge due to cancellation and trying hard to find another angle to criticize Kevin Warren (oddly, for a decision which was nor his to make, nor did he make). Unfortunately, some have chosen to engage in pure speculation about the nature of his family relationship, freely attributing (without knowledge) family decisions kept private, and then criticizing Warren for the judgment of those decisions when they have no clue if he made them in the first place --even if it was entirely proper for him to do so. But sign the petition.
 
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Practically everything I've read so far seems to indicate that the university presidents were deferring to the B10's Covid-19 medical task force.. It's likely that Warren was also ….. and the advice of legal counsel as well.

I'd be pretty disappointed if they did not listen to the medical task force. Colleges are expected to instill a respect for science-based and fact-based decisions, otherwise we can choose any fool to follow. Many posters have a hard time with the fact that the college presidents (successful and responsible people) weighed the medical facts and chose the tough route of canceling football for this season.

Fall is coming and health experts expect a resurgence of the virus at the same time the flu season hits. We may well not have seen the worst yet.
 
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Dumb. Kevin Warren is acting on behalf and at the behest of the university presidents - the collective who determined the fate of football. That's like starting a petition to terminate the church secretary for announcing that services and other church functions are cancelled.

Warren pressured them behind the scenes.
 
Warren pressured them behind the scenes.
Oh no, pressure! University presidents are rarely subject to pressure. They probably folded!

Here is a partial list of groups exerting pressure or otherwise seeking to influence Iowa's President during this process ………..

University of Iowa athletic department, coaches, players, parents
University of Iowa medical science professionals
University of Iowa legal department
University of Iowa economic and finance specialists
University of Iowa administration, teachers, staff
University of Iowa student body
Iowa federal, state and local government officials
National, state, and local media
B10 Covid-19 medical task force
B10 Covid-19 legal team
President, Univ. of Nebraska
President, Univ. of Wisconsin
President, Univ. of Illinois
President, Univ of Michigan
President, Michigan State Univ.
President, Rutgers Univ.
President, Ohio State Univ.
President, Univ. of Minnesota
President, Northwestern Univ.
President, Penn State Univ.
President, Univ. of Maryland
President, Univ of Indiana
President, Purdue Univ.
...and, if a vague, unsourced reports are true - B10 Commissioner Kevin Warren

All the presidents arrived with multiple unique pressures. The Commish isn't going to strong arm a change vote our of a president, they will vote their school's interests.
 
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Some people actually believe the commissioner made this decision completely on his own. And that he's sitting at home, smokin a cigar and chuckling as he counts his money and thinking of the next big thing he can do to sabotage the big ten.
 
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Nevermind he put out a schedule, 3 days later he wanted to play in the spring, arrogantly tried to get support from the other P5's because the B1G was going it alone no matter what.

Then when there was tremendous blowback finds a condition that can happen with the common cold. By his new standard we should never play any sport ever.

This is absolutely my biggest problem. The heart condition has been talked about by team doctors and can happen with sickness like a cold or flu (I feel like this is the COVID argument all over again but I am NOT advocating COVID is a cold.) Our doctor said we never test for this when kids are sick in the winter so I don't get why we do now.

There is seemingly so much hypocrisy in what is being said that I am really frustrated by the lack of transparency (like the players parents!) in the change of heart. I understand that schools do not have proper testing or availability. Shut them down, not all of us down.
 
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