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First charge of sedition in Jan. 6 insurrection filed....and major leader arrested

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Didn't want this buried in the ****Arrests of the Traitors**** thread. This is actually a big deal.

By Alan Feuer and Adam Goldman
Jan. 13, 2022, 1:19 p.m. ET

Stewart Rhodes, the leader and founder of the far-right Oath Keepers militia, was arrested on Thursday and charged with seditious conspiracy for organizing a wide-ranging plot to storm the Capitol last Jan. 6 and disrupt the certification of Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s electoral victory, federal law enforcement officials said.

The arrest of Mr. Rhodes was a major step forward in the sprawling investigation of the Capitol attack and the case marked the first time that prosecutors had filed charges of sedition. According to his lawyer, Jonathon Moseley, Mr. Rhodes was arrested at shortly before 1 p.m.

Mr. Rhodes, a former Army paratrooper who went on to earn a law degree at Yale, has been under investigation for his role in Jan. 6 since at least last spring when, against the advice of his lawyer, he sat down with F.B.I. agents for an interview in Texas. He was at the Capitol on Jan. 6, communicating by cellphone and a chat app with members of his team, many of whom went into the building. But there is no evidence that he entered the Capitol.
The Oath Keepers, along with the Proud Boys, have emerged as the most prominent far-right extremists to have taken part in the assault on the Capitol. Prosecutors have collected reams of evidence against them, including encrypted cellphone chats and recordings of online meetings. They have charged its members not only with forcing their way into the building in a military-style “stack,” but also with stationing an armed “quick reaction force” at a hotel in Virginia to be ready to rush into Washington if needed.

Through their lawyers, members of the Oath Keepers who are already facing charges have said that they converged on Washington just before Jan. 6 as part of a security detail hired to protect conservative celebrities like Roger J. Stone, Jr., the longtime ally of former President Donald J. Trump.

In an interview with The New York Times this summer, Mr. Rhodes expressed frustration that several members of his group had “gone off mission” by entering the Capitol on Jan. 6, quickly adding, “There were zero instructions from me or leadership to do so.”

But at least four Oath Keepers who were at the Capitol that day and are cooperating with the government have sworn in court papers that the group intended to breach the building with the goal of obstructing the final certification of the Electoral College vote.

Mr. Rhodes has also attracted the attention of the House select committee investigating Jan. 6, which issued him a subpoena in November. In a letter at the time, House investigators noted that Mr. Rhodes had taken part in several events designed to question the 2020 presidential election throughout that fall and winter.

On Election Day, the letter said, Mr. Rhodes said that an “honest” count of the votes could only result in a victory for Mr. Trump and called on members of his group to “stock up on ammo” and prepare for a “full-on war in the streets.”

Within a week of Election Day, Mr. Rhodes had told the conspiracy theorist Alex Jones that he had men stationed outside Washington prepared to act at Mr. Trump’s command.


Around the same time, federal prosecutors say, he urged his fellow Oath Keepers at an online meeting to support Mr. Trump, calling him the “duly elected president” and adding: “You can call it an insurrection or you can call it a war or fight.”

The drumbeat continued through the winter, prosecutors say, as Mr. Rhodes appeared at a pro-Trump rally in Washington on Dec. 12, 2020, and called on Mr. Trump to invoke the Insurrection Act, suggesting that a failure to do so would result in a “much more bloody war.” At the rally, Mr. Rhodes acknowledged in a television interview that he and members of his group were there to provide security for celebrity speakers along with another shadowy paramilitary organization, the First Amendment Praetorian.

On Jan. 4, just two days, before the storming of the Capitol, Mr. Rhodes posted an article on the Oath Keepers website calling on “all patriots” to “stand tall in support of President Trump’s fight to defeat the enemies foreign and domestic who are attempting a coup.”

With his distinctive black eye patch — the result of a gun accident — Mr. Rhodes has been a fixture on the far right almost from the day in 2009 that he announced the creation of the Oath Keepers at a rally in Lexington, Mass., the site of a famous Revolutionary War battle.

At the event, Mr. Rhodes laid out an antigovernment platform for the current and former law enforcement and military personnel who joined his group, saying that his plan was for members to disobey certain illegal orders from officials and instead to uphold their oath to the Constitution.

During the years that President Barack Obama was in office, the Oath Keepers repeatedly inserted themselves into prominent public conflicts, often playing the role of heavily armed vigilantes. In 2014, for instance, they turned up at a cattle ranch in Nevada after its owner, Cliven Bundy, engaged in an armed standoff with federal land management officials. That same year, members of the group went to Ferguson, Mo. on a self-appointed mission to protect local businesses from riots prompted by the death of Michael Brown, a Black man who shot by the police.


 
Didn't want this buried in the ****Arrests of the Traitors**** thread. This is actually a big deal.

By Alan Feuer and Adam Goldman
Jan. 13, 2022, 1:19 p.m. ET

Stewart Rhodes, the leader and founder of the far-right Oath Keepers militia, was arrested on Thursday and charged with seditious conspiracy for organizing a wide-ranging plot to storm the Capitol last Jan. 6 and disrupt the certification of Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s electoral victory, federal law enforcement officials said.

The arrest of Mr. Rhodes was a major step forward in the sprawling investigation of the Capitol attack and the case marked the first time that prosecutors had filed charges of sedition. According to his lawyer, Jonathon Moseley, Mr. Rhodes was arrested at shortly before 1 p.m.

Mr. Rhodes, a former Army paratrooper who went on to earn a law degree at Yale, has been under investigation for his role in Jan. 6 since at least last spring when, against the advice of his lawyer, he sat down with F.B.I. agents for an interview in Texas. He was at the Capitol on Jan. 6, communicating by cellphone and a chat app with members of his team, many of whom went into the building. But there is no evidence that he entered the Capitol.
The Oath Keepers, along with the Proud Boys, have emerged as the most prominent far-right extremists to have taken part in the assault on the Capitol. Prosecutors have collected reams of evidence against them, including encrypted cellphone chats and recordings of online meetings. They have charged its members not only with forcing their way into the building in a military-style “stack,” but also with stationing an armed “quick reaction force” at a hotel in Virginia to be ready to rush into Washington if needed.

Through their lawyers, members of the Oath Keepers who are already facing charges have said that they converged on Washington just before Jan. 6 as part of a security detail hired to protect conservative celebrities like Roger J. Stone, Jr., the longtime ally of former President Donald J. Trump.

In an interview with The New York Times this summer, Mr. Rhodes expressed frustration that several members of his group had “gone off mission” by entering the Capitol on Jan. 6, quickly adding, “There were zero instructions from me or leadership to do so.”

But at least four Oath Keepers who were at the Capitol that day and are cooperating with the government have sworn in court papers that the group intended to breach the building with the goal of obstructing the final certification of the Electoral College vote.

Mr. Rhodes has also attracted the attention of the House select committee investigating Jan. 6, which issued him a subpoena in November. In a letter at the time, House investigators noted that Mr. Rhodes had taken part in several events designed to question the 2020 presidential election throughout that fall and winter.

On Election Day, the letter said, Mr. Rhodes said that an “honest” count of the votes could only result in a victory for Mr. Trump and called on members of his group to “stock up on ammo” and prepare for a “full-on war in the streets.”

Within a week of Election Day, Mr. Rhodes had told the conspiracy theorist Alex Jones that he had men stationed outside Washington prepared to act at Mr. Trump’s command.


Around the same time, federal prosecutors say, he urged his fellow Oath Keepers at an online meeting to support Mr. Trump, calling him the “duly elected president” and adding: “You can call it an insurrection or you can call it a war or fight.”

The drumbeat continued through the winter, prosecutors say, as Mr. Rhodes appeared at a pro-Trump rally in Washington on Dec. 12, 2020, and called on Mr. Trump to invoke the Insurrection Act, suggesting that a failure to do so would result in a “much more bloody war.” At the rally, Mr. Rhodes acknowledged in a television interview that he and members of his group were there to provide security for celebrity speakers along with another shadowy paramilitary organization, the First Amendment Praetorian.

On Jan. 4, just two days, before the storming of the Capitol, Mr. Rhodes posted an article on the Oath Keepers website calling on “all patriots” to “stand tall in support of President Trump’s fight to defeat the enemies foreign and domestic who are attempting a coup.”

With his distinctive black eye patch — the result of a gun accident — Mr. Rhodes has been a fixture on the far right almost from the day in 2009 that he announced the creation of the Oath Keepers at a rally in Lexington, Mass., the site of a famous Revolutionary War battle.

At the event, Mr. Rhodes laid out an antigovernment platform for the current and former law enforcement and military personnel who joined his group, saying that his plan was for members to disobey certain illegal orders from officials and instead to uphold their oath to the Constitution.

During the years that President Barack Obama was in office, the Oath Keepers repeatedly inserted themselves into prominent public conflicts, often playing the role of heavily armed vigilantes. In 2014, for instance, they turned up at a cattle ranch in Nevada after its owner, Cliven Bundy, engaged in an armed standoff with federal land management officials. That same year, members of the group went to Ferguson, Mo. on a self-appointed mission to protect local businesses from riots prompted by the death of Michael Brown, a Black man who shot by the police.


Noted, agreed and so is our year long endeavor of a thread as well. Put it there to add to our collection as the prize gem thus far, thanks.
 
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This simply can't be true. Our beloved president, Donald J. Trump, said he "loved them and they were special." There has to be a mistake here.
 
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You know, some of you may not believe that the threats of "civil war" are legit. But the Oathkeepers sure do -- and are actively seeking foreign assistance and using the playbook of other revolutionaries as we speak. From the indictment evidence:

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As you can see their "peaceful protests" are literally just the opening move, which ultimately progresses to street violence and then physical takeover of government buildings. These people need to be arrested and put in jail for a long, long, long time.
 
No one outside the bubble thinks Jan 6 was a coup and the grandstanding going on is going to make the midterms more of a disaster for the Dems.

Not one shot fired by the people storming the capital. Not exactly D day. This was a protest that went too far and most people know it that aren't consumed by partisan hyperventilating bullshit. The Dems saw an opportunity to attack their opponents by labeling this an insurrection and are in the process of trying to jail their political opponents and yet there isn't any real evidence. That of course isn't stopping them and Adams Schiff from lying just like they did on the Russian bullshit.

Democrats have made this bed and are truly in trouble at the midterms. As for the presidential election? It is like they are following a playbook on how to get Trump reelected
 
This puts to rest any claims that this wasn't a coup. Any posters who claimed otherwise need to get in this thread ASAP and admit that they were wrong.
Always read the indictments.

It's funny that so many right wingers accuse the media of "blowing things out of proportion" but if anything, it is the opposite. The actual collected evidence now coming out makes it abundantly clear this was a planned, coordinated and violent coup attempt.
 
Always read the indictments.

It's funny that so many right wingers accuse the media of "blowing things out of proportion" but if anything, it is the opposite. The actual collected evidence now coming out makes it abundantly clear this was a planned, coordinated and violent coup attempt.
And we are still in the early stages of this. No doubt more charges will roll in. I can't wait for Grassley and the rest of the Rs to say, "No comment" when they wait for their elevators this afternoon.
 
Always read the indictments.

It's funny that so many right wingers accuse the media of "blowing things out of proportion" but if anything, it is the opposite. The actual collected evidence now coming out makes it abundantly clear this was a planned, coordinated and violent coup attempt.
I believe our differing opinion stems from who lead the coup sir.
 
90% of YOUR answer is ridiculous. Please, there was NO COUP that day. Good God man....where were the armed people? A truly coordinated Coup isn't gonna last long without that. Stop making it something it wasn't. It was protest in which some of the group did something stupid and should be punished. And a few 9/11 comparisons?? Are you serious? The fricking VP went on NATIONAL TV and made the comparison herself. Stop deflecting and admit she was an idiot for doing so. Both freaking party's have betrayed our democracy on MANY occasions.....the only difference is YOU only want to recognize when one side does it.
 
Thousands of people showed up to protest, something well within thier rights and a very common practice at the time if you recall. A small percentage of them went into the capital and those people have been rightly fined/ imprisoned. You can piss and moan all you want but if there was anything remotely creditable they would hang trumps ass from thr nearest tree. 8 months later, cant produce shit.
 
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This feels like goal post moving to me. First it was that there was no coup, just a few protesters that got out of control. Now in light of 11 being charged with seditious conspiracy, you move the goal posts to this.
No, not really. The conversation all along has been that trump should be charged as the leader of this.
 
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