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I think looking towards 2024 it all comes down to if R's can separate themselves from Trump. Pretty much that simple in my mind....I don't think they can.
If they somehow do the D's probably need to make some adjustments as well (less woke) but they're going to look at this mid terms as a validation of what they've been doing.
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yepHuge, massive rejection of Trumpism tonight. If the Republicans can't move beyond Trump, they'll continue to take lumps, and rightly so.
He was successful at managing a massive bubble economy driven by dot coms and the tax increase he was able to pass. The point is, no matter how much we claim to want a president like Clinton, we didn't want a president like Clinton capable of governing so we never gave him A "D" House or Senate after his first two years - in his first mid-term, he was absolutely repudiated. He then spent the next 6 years reacting to and fighting off the GOP.I would argue that Clinton was a successful Pres. and has been the best President since Ike.
Clinton served 2 terms. That is successful.He was successful at managing a massive bubble economy driven by dot coms and the tax increase he was able to pass. The point is, no matter how much we claim to want a president like Clinton, we didn't want a president like Clinton capable of governing so we never gave him A "D" House or Senate after his first two years - in his first mid-term, he was absolutely repudiated. He then spent the next 6 years reacting to and fighting off the GOP.
Clinton served 2 terms. That is successful.
The economy and markets both did very well. That is successful.
The Labor Force Participation Rate was at a post WWII low indicating a very strong job market. That is successful.
I look at peaceful prosperity as more important than what party controlled the two houses of Congress.
Clinton served 2 terms. That is successful.He was successful at managing a massive bubble economy driven by dot coms and the tax increase he was able to pass. The point is, no matter how much we claim to want a president like Clinton, we didn't want a president like Clinton capable of governing so we never gave him A "D" House or Senate after his first two years - in his first mid-term, he was absolutely repudiated. He then spent the next 6 years reacting to and fighting off the GOP.
Your grandmother could have served those two terms "successfully". Once again - the point is that we had someone in the WH who is now claimed to be the moderate model to rally the nation and HE couldn't get his own party elected to back him. He was villified by the right and he was absolutely trounced in his first mid-term. His signature achievement was a huge tax increase that helpd balance the budget and it NEVER would have passed after the first two years. The claim that we need someone like Clinton now didn't even hold true THEN. As extreme as the GOP was under Gingrich - they shut down the govt to try and get their way - they still held BOTH chambers of the legislature for Clinton's final six years. All of the "success" you attribute to Clinton was rewarded by the American people with a GOP POTUS, a GOP Senate, and a GOP House in 2001. What in the world makes anyone think it would be different today when the GOP has gone completely off the f'n rails?Clinton served 2 terms. That is successful.
The economy and markets both did very well. That is successful.
The Labor Force Participation Rate was at a post WWII low indicating a very strong job market. That is successful.
I look at peaceful prosperity as more important than what party controlled the two houses of Congress.
Respectfully disagree.Your grandmother could have served those two terms "successfully". Once again - the point is that we had someone in the WH who is now claimed to be the moderate model to rally the nation and HE couldn't get his own party elected to back him. He was villified by the right and he was absolutely trounced in his first mid-term. His signature achievement was a huge tax increase that helpd balance the budget and it NEVER would have passed after the first two years. The claim that we need someone like Clinton now didn't even hold true THEN. As extreme as the GOP was under Gingrich - they shut down the govt to try and get their way - they still held BOTH chambers of the legislature for Clinton's final six years. All of the "success" you attribute to Clinton was rewarded by the American people with a GOP POTUS, a GOP Senate, and a GOP House in 2001. What in the world makes anyone think it would be different today when the GOP has gone completely off the f'n rails?
The majority of American voters do not really want moderates...they prove it with every election. What they do want? Not a clue. It appears to be chaos.
Made who competitive? The Dems lost 8 seats in the Senate and 54 seats in the House of Representatives in 1994 giving the GOP full control for the first time since the early 1950's. It was a bloodbath. The Dems never regained control of either under Clinton and with the exception of a few sporadic episodes didn't retake them until the war in Iraq became overwhelmingly unpopular. Heck, Clinton's VP got beat in the very next election. That it was by a razor-thin margin hardly matters. The 2006 election finally showed big wins for the Dems but they weren't due to any "Clinton effect" - people were tired of the war in Iraq. Obama's win had zero to do with Clinton and everything to do with an economy in freefall.He also realigned Democrats nationally and made them competitive again at the national level. For 20 years until Clinton they got absolutely drubbed nationally at the presidential level, with the one exception when Nixon got impeached and resigned. Democrats haven't been boat raced for president since.
I'm not "calling for" anything. I'm looking at the reality. Clinton's approval rating was 66%. Gore lost.Respectfully disagree.
You are calling for more extreme partisanship. I think after 4 years of Trump's insanity we need to come together not move further apart.
Clinton's Approval Rate in his last month of office was 66%. People thought that even though he may have had questionable morals, he got things done that were good for the country.
Clinton Approval Rating
“A house divided against itself cannot stand.” — Abraham Lincoln.
Democrats can either be Left or Middle. Left is not bipartisan. The Middle is.I'm not "calling for" anything. I'm looking at the reality. Clinton's approval rating was 66%. Gore lost.
He was successful at managing a massive bubble economy driven by dot coms and the tax increase he was able to pass. The point is, no matter how much we claim to want a president like Clinton, we didn't want a president like Clinton capable of governing so we never gave him A "D" House or Senate after his first two years - in his first mid-term, he was absolutely repudiated. He then spent the next 6 years reacting to and fighting off the GOP.
*sigh* OK...I'm going to try this one more time. This has not one thing to do with whether or not you think Clinton was "successful". The claim is that Clinton was this "moderate" president who would be a model TODAY to bring the country together. Clinton didn't do that THEN. He had zero effect on the mood of the country in terms of who else they elected. HE was popular but that meant zip in any wider sense when people went into the voting booth - he presided over record losses for his party both on a national AND a state level. Do you think the GOP - the party that impeached him - cooperated with a moderate Clinton??? People liked HIM...they voted AGAINST him. Over and over and over again.I'm not sure what your point is. Clinton had a great Presidency. It seems that you are saying that a Presidency is only successful if he gets enough of his party elected to the House and Senate. If that is what you are arguing, I disagree. A good President is one who can get good things done no matter who controls Congress. Also, a good President should be focused on doing good things, not blindly getting anyone from his party elected.
LOL...EXACTLY. Nader cost Gore the election. A large percentage of people went for a more extreme candidate over the supposed "moderate". Even if Gore had been elected, he had no path to govern given that the GOP still controlled Congress. He would have been vilified and I wouldn't be surprised if the GOP didn't impeach him after 9/11. Tell me that wouldn't have happened.Gore also got hurt by Ralph Nader running.
Florida 2000 Vote TotalsLOL...EXACTLY. Nader cost Gore the election. A large percentage of people went for a more extreme candidate over the supposed "moderate". Even if Gore had been elected, he had no path to govern given that the GOP still controlled Congress. He would have been vilified and I wouldn't be surprised if the GOP didn't impeach him after 9/11. Tell me that wouldn't have happened.
So...exactly what I said. ~100,000 voters in FL alone - and 2.8 million across the country - rejected the "moderate" continuation of the Clinton presidency that people are holding up as a model and handed the election to Bush. And you don't have to blame Nader. Half of the registered Democrats in FL never voted at all. As far as they were concerned, there was nothing remarkable about the Clinton presidency and they were fine with either Bush or Gore.Florida 2000 Vote Totals
Bush 2,912,790
Gore 2,912, 253
Nader 97,488
Electoral College
Bush 271
Gore 266
Florida had 25 electoral votes in the 2000 campaign.
So we get Trump vs. Sen. Warren? I don't buy that at all.So...exactly what I said. ~100,000 voters in FL alone - and 2.8 million across the country - rejected the "moderate" continuation of the Clinton presidency that people are holding up as a model and handed the election to Bush. And you don't have to blame Nader. Half of the registered Democrats in FL never voted at all. As far as they were concerned, there was nothing remarkable about the Clinton presidency and they were fine with either Bush or Gore.
One more time - there is NO centrist candidate from either side who will be able to unite the country. No moderate can possibly win the GOP nomination and no Dem moderate will be given a governable Congress. The idea that a remarkable third-party candidate would be able to cajole cooperation from a Rep/Dem divided Congress is laughable. I'm a bit gobsmacked that people believe otherwise.
We could get another Clinton. So what? The point is that it would not change a thing. Obama won in a walkover - ten million vote margin, 365 EC votes.. A moderate technocrat by any measure. He was given a f'n supermajority in Congress. The GOP didn't concede to his 2008 mandate and work to cooperate...they demonized him at every turn. They promised to do everything they could to make him a one-term president.So we get Trump vs. Sen. Warren? I don't buy that at all.
You have your opinion and I have mine. Both Trump and Warren represent each extreme wing of their respective parties. If you don't see that then you are dumb.We could get another Clinton. So what? The point is that it would not change a thing. Obama won in a walkover - ten million vote margin, 365 EC votes.. A moderate technocrat by any measure. He was given a f'n supermajority in Congress. The GOP didn't concede to his 2008 mandate and work to cooperate...they demonized him at every turn. They promised to do everything they could to make him a one-term president.
AND THEY WERE REWARDED!!
Two years later he lost SIXTY-THREE seats and control in the House and six seats in the Senate. In 2014, he lost the Senate as well. Dems lost a net total of 13 Governorships and 816 state legislative seats during Obama's two terms. Then we got...Trump. So anyone saying that we need the major parties to nominate a centrist thinking it will fix anything is simply delusional.
Our electorate is dysfuntional. That makes our politics dysfunctional. It's not the parties...it's us.
And, btw, conflating Donald Trump with Elizabeth Warren makes you look dumb.
Damn...it's hard to find two more self-contradictory statements in a single post. Trump owns the GOP. He's NOT an extremist - he's the PRESUMPTIVE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE. Warren is barely a footnote in the Democratic party. You obviously enjoy being hyperpartisan with idiotic claims like this, making your "opinion" completely invalid.1. ou have your opinion and I have mine. Both Trump and Warren represent each extreme wing of their respective parties. If you don't see that then you are dumb.
2. To think we need more hyper partisanship is beyond delusional.
I did not say that Warren was the presumptive nominee. All I said was that she represented the Far Left.Damn...it's hard to find two more self-contradictory statements in a single post. Trump owns the GOP. He's NOT an extremist - he's the PRESUMPTIVE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE. Warren is barely a footnote in the Democratic party. You obviously enjoy being hyperpartisan with idiotic claims like this, making your "opinion" completely invalid.
Good god...your comprehension is about ten cents short of a dime. TRUMP DOES NOT REPRESENT THE FAR ANYTHING FOR THE GOP. He IS the mainstream. He doesn't compare to Elizabeth Warren in ANY way. Making that claim marks you as a hyperpartisan moran willing to say anything, no matter how stupid, to protect your party from the truth.I did not say that Warren was the presumptive nominee. All I said was that she represented the Far Left.
I am not being hyperpartisan. Have you forgot what I was talking about? I was talking about how I like Bill Clinton and then you said he was a horrible Pres. for being moderate.
You are all over the place.
Pal you are so flipping stupid. Kinzinger is mainstream GOP. Trump is in bed with the Freedom Caucus. That is as Far Right as there is.Good god...your comprehension is about ten cents short of a dime. TRUMP DOES NOT REPRESENT THE FAR ANYTHING FOR THE GOP. He IS the mainstream. He doesn't compare to Elizabeth Warren in ANY way. Making that claim marks you as a hyperpartisan moran willing to say anything, no matter how stupid, to protect your party from the truth.
As for the rest, I'm just going to ask you to quote me saying Clinton was a "horrible Pres. for being moderate" or STFU.
I’m sure this is your “truth,” but it isn’t that way here in Texas. I think you are being naïve (at best) with this.Sure. But,that’s a family dynamics issue. It’s not baked into work and school environments.
Explain exactly what you want this 3rd party to do? Real world examples.I would love a third party to emerge. For the first time in my voting life I may abstain today.
Explain less woke please? How many Dems ran on woke policies? Living in KS we have now elected a democratic governor 2 times in a row in a very red state. She’s accomplished some great things in just a short amount of time. Meanwhile her opponent just rehashed the same old Republican talking points. Young people swung the election. The Republicans are getting old and tired. It’s easy to see through.I think looking towards 2024 it all comes down to if R's can separate themselves from Trump. Pretty much that simple in my mind....I don't think they can.
If they somehow do the D's probably need to make some adjustments as well (less woke) but they're going to look at this mid terms as a validation of what they've been doing.
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I'm not your "pal", dumbass. The GOP IS FAR RIGHT! They CHOSE Trump. They will choose him AGAIN. Given that you can't post a single quote where I insult Clinton....before you post again, you might want to brush up on HORT vernacular...moran.Pal you are so flipping stupid. Kinzinger is mainstream GOP. Trump is in bed with the Freedom Caucus. That is as Far Right as there is.
If you going to accuse someone of being a moron, how about learn how to spell it.
You slam and insult Clinton over and over again and then you act like you didn't do it. Are you on drugs?
Do you think that is Sen. Warren is not Far Left? Do you even follow politics?