Good question. Italy and then... I'm not sure. Continental Europe, perhaps Spain or France. Really wanna do Iceland here though.
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Honeymooned in Greece (Mostly Santorini/Mykonos) and did a two week eastern Europe swing through Warsaw—>Krakow—>Budapest—>Vienna—>Prague.
Would recommend any of those places. Admittedly haven’t spent time in Western Europe so can’t compare there.
We did go to Auschwitz/Birkenau for a day. Definitely a sobering experience. But felt the need to go being so close.Loved Krakow! Did you go to Auschwitz? Spent the 4th of July there a few years ago. Horrifying but also amazing to see.
We did go to Auschwitz/Birkenau for a day. Definitely a sobering experience. But felt the need to go being so close.
Absolutely loved Krakow as well. Spent A LOT of time in the town square pounding beers and peirogis. Also did the salt mine tour as well. Really beautiful/under-appreciated city in general.
My biggest regret from that trip was doing Prague last. By the time we got there, I was kind of over the trip and ready to go home. Probably didn’t appreciate it as much as I should’ve.
I find paris except for the arc area to be a shithole. Spent alot of time there.Let me ju.st say this about London - I have been there about 15 times over the years and have still not seen it all - anyone who tries to talk someone out of London, especially a first timeer, is steering in the wrong direction.
If you have 12 days to spend in Europe I would say you can not go wrong visiting any country there, but your inclination to do London & Paris first isthe correct one. From Paris you can easily do day trips by train to many grat sites in France and even into Belgium orLuxemberg. Spain & Portugal are nice, but even with 12 days they are a seperate trip IMHO, and they are simply not anywhere near the same catagory as Paris.
For me, SpIn/Portugal would be low interest....Netherlands and Germany and France/ Italy....If going for 12 days you could do 3 countries. If France is set, I would probably say Italy and France. Spain is a good choice too.
We are planning a trip to Italy. I believe Rome, Florence, and then anal do (I swear to god I typed Amalfi and that was the autocorrect which I had to leave for the sake of comedy - incognito searches not so incognito?) coast. Any tips appreciated. I think one decision point is part of our group wants to do a VRBO or something, while I would prefer a hotel with amenities/concierge to help out. Enlighten me O great and mighty HORT!If going for 12 days you could do 3 countries. If France is set, I would probably say Italy and France. Spain is a good choice too.
We are planning a trip to Italy. I believe Rome, Florence, and then anal do (I swear to god I typed Amalfi and that was the autocorrect which I had to leave for the sake of comedy - incognito searches not so incognito?) coast. Any tips appreciated. I think one decision point is part of our group wants to do a VRBO or something, while I would prefer a hotel with amenities/concierge to help out. Enlighten me O great and mighty HORT!
Rome is dirty but a must do. Vatican, spanish steps, trevi fountain plus coliseum must stops. Probably 2-3 days tops. Get the skip the line tour for the vatican.We are planning a trip to Italy. I believe Rome, Florence, and then anal do (I swear to god I typed Amalfi and that was the autocorrect which I had to leave for the sake of comedy - incognito searches not so incognito?) coast. Any tips appreciated. I think one decision point is part of our group wants to do a VRBO or something, while I would prefer a hotel with amenities/concierge to help out. Enlighten me O great and mighty HORT!
Thank you -excellent info. We are planning this for next summer. Does that change anything or are Italy’s weather and seasons pretty constant?Rome is dirty but a must do. Vatican, spanish steps, trevi fountain plus coliseum must stops. Probably 2-3 days tops. Get the skip the line tour for the vatican.
Florence is great. Ponte vecchio, duomo, and the david all must sees. Trattoria za za solid. If you travel for work marriott has alot of nice properties there. From there you can also visit some tuscan wineries. Our favorite is poggio amorelli.I’d highly recommend getting a driver.
Amalfi coast - to much to mention.
We love that area and cinque terre up north.
Naples is dirty and full of thieves. Of course the home of pizza so gotta do that.
We like sorrento - hotel minerva and hotel la tonnarella are both great with both having great restaurants.
Other - trains are great city/city.
Work north to south or south to north.
Americans don't vacation in Slovenia. That's where people from England, France, Italy and Germany vacation to get away from American tourists.This is my current hidden gem town / area.
With that attitude, I’m sure you represented America well!I find paris except for the arc area to be a shithole. Spent alot of time there.
Lyon is nicer.
Problem is both are full of frogs.
Just sayin.
It’s california. Colder in north, hot in south. Summer is great time to go but will be hot - everywhere.Thank you -excellent info. We are planning this for next summer. Does that change anything or is Italy’s weather pretty constant?
I don’t know about Naples or Sicily but the northern half of the country is seasonal like ours. Milder winters but I have been in Northern Italy in the summer and it’s miserably hot and humid so I imagine Southern Italy is worse.Thank you -excellent info. We are planning this for next summer. Does that change anything or are Italy’s weather and seasons pretty constant?
Thanks! Next year is the first summer in 10 years we will not tethered and constrained by sports schedules. Sounds like maybe we are planning to overlap it with the 4th to minimize missing work, so that could be good timing…I don’t know about Naples or Sicily but the northern half of the country is seasonal like ours. Milder winters but I have been in Northern Italy in the summer and it’s miserably hot and humid so I imagine Southern Italy is worse.
They all take vacation in August so more stuff is closed and it’s much quieter. Not sure if that affects tourist stuff as I was always there for work. But something to look into.
Amalfi coast is even better than advertised…. But Naples is an absolute pit! Filthy dirty with rats who love to make public appearances!We are planning a trip to Italy. I believe Rome, Florence, and then anal do (I swear to god I typed Amalfi and that was the autocorrect which I had to leave for the sake of comedy - incognito searches not so incognito?) coast. Any tips appreciated. I think one decision point is part of our group wants to do a VRBO or something, while I would prefer a hotel with amenities/concierge to help out. Enlighten me O great and mighty HORT!
I won’t spend another penny in germany after this shit show of support for UK.This thread is great. The Europe trip is on my bucket list….take about a month and do some combination of: London/England, Germany, Switzerland, Sweden/Norway, Italy and Paris
Venice is a day just to see it.Time of year matters. During December austria/Germany is a must for Christmas markets. September is great for Munich (oktoberfest).
Skip Paris. If your going to see 10 cities, see Paris, otherwise venice, Rome, Berlin, Amsterdam, Munich, Salzburg, Innsbruck, brugge, brussels, London, are Brussels, in their own ways, and that list isn't even long enough. Paris is fine, but after having it romanticized my whole life, I expected more. I've been there 3 times and have been underwhelmed.
Oktoberfest in Munich should be on the list. Thousands of people enjoying the time of their lives. Wowzers!This thread is great. The Europe trip is on my bucket list….take about a month and do some combination of: London/England, Germany, Switzerland, Sweden/Norway, Italy and Paris
A great description of Venice. It's like going to Disneyland. You get off the train in the morning and it's like waiting in line for the park to open. You go in and explore and it's super cool, you have a nice dinner, maybe even spend the night, but you've done it all. And it totally has the vibe that nobody lives there, just the workers coming in during the day to cater to the tourists. Don't get me wrong, it's spectacular to see, but once you've seen it, you've seen it.Venice is a day just to see it.
Once there i know few who go back.
Third’ed. Venice is the only European city my wife and I have visited where we were actually ready to leave after our 3 days there. The architecture is knock-you-on-your-ass stunning, but once you’ve taken it in the other aspects of the city are frankly subpar.A great description of Venice. It's like going to Disneyland. You get off the train in the morning and it's like waiting in line for the park to open. You go in and explore and it's super cool, you have a nice dinner, maybe even spend the night, but you've done it all. And it totally has the vibe that nobody lives there, just the workers coming in during the day to cater to the tourists. Don't get me wrong, it's spectacular to see, but once you've seen it, you've seen it.
I just have say this...as much as I love England and its many interesting sights, I have never had a single good meal there. I'm partial to the Bavarian style of cooking and so I like the Munich area best for food & drink, and I especially like Munich in December during the Christmas season.