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Fisher Stevens regrets his controversial 'Short Circuit' role: 'It definitely haunts me'

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Is this really that horrible? Throughout history actors and actresses' have performed as something other than themselves. I can understand when its a matter of poking fun at someone or a group, but Stevens put in a lot of effort to understand and portray the Indian culture accurately even living in country for a month. But today he catches hell for this performance (from 35 years ago)? It "haunts" him? Why does our society spend so much time digging through the past to bring it forward for chastisement? It's not enough to have simply evolved to the point where today we cast an Indian actor/actress appropriately in a role, we have to open the 1980s archives so we can be outraged, offended, hurt, etc.

Fisher Stevens regrets his controversial 'Short Circuit' role: 'It definitely haunts me'

As one of the first movies to feature a talking robot as its main character, Short Circuit looked positively futuristic when it premiered in theaters on May 9, 1986. And 35 years later, Johnny 5 still feels like a next-gen movie star, brought to life via an inventive combination of then-cutting-edge special-effects technology, as well as old-fashioned puppeteering and great voice acting by Tim Blaney. But there's at least one element of the hit sci-fi comedy that keeps it firmly stuck in the past: Fisher Stevens's performance as Indian engineer Ben Jabituya — a heavily stereotyped role he later reprised in the less-successful 1988 sequel.

"It definitely haunts me," the Chicago-born actor and filmmaker confessed to Yahoo Entertainment when we spoke with him earlier this year about his recent Justin Timberlake drama, Palmer, which is currently streaming on Apple TV+. "I still think it's a really good movie, but I would never do that part again. The world was a different place in 1986, obviously."


According to Stevens, Ben wasn't an Indian character when he first auditioned for the John Badham-directed film, which also starred Ally Sheedy and Steve Guttenberg fresh of the success of The Breakfast Club and the Police Academy series respectively. "I was originally cast as a white dude," he recalls of how his character initially appeared in S.S. Wilson and Brent Maddock's script.

But after winning the role, the movie's creative team made the choice to change Ben's ethnicity without changing the identity of the performer playing him. As a young actor eager for that elusive breakout role, Stevens didn't want to walk away. "They rewrote it, and were like, 'Can you play it?' I said, 'Yeah, I can do it. Let me learn.' It's a weird thing when you're 21 and you're trying to get a job."

Stevens did commit himself to learning about India, a place he had never visited prior to shooting Short Circuit. As he told Indian-American comedian and actor, Aziz Ansari, in a 2015 New York Times interview, Stevens worked with a dialect coach and read multiple books about the country's history and culture. Later on, he moved to India for a month before traveling to the Toronto set of Short Circuit 2.

All that preparation apparently came across in the performance: in his New York Times article, Ansari remembers thinking that Ben was played by an Indian actor when he saw the film as a child. "I rarely saw any Indians on TV or film, except for brief appearances as a cabdriver or convenience store worker," Ansari writes. "This made Short Circuit 2 special."


It was only later on in college that the Master of None creator learned that the character was actually played by Stevens in "brownface," and experienced a profound sense of disillusionment. "As a child, I thought the villain of the film was Oscar Baldwin. ... As an adult, I thought the bad guy was actually Mr. Stevens, who mocked my ethnicity."

Ansari and Stevens eventually arrived at a mutual understanding when they spoke for the New York Times. But the actor knows it's a performance he'll have to keep answering for. "I have friends who are Indian, and they're still mad at me. They're like, 'What were you thinking?' My wife [Alexis Bloom] isn't happy about it either. She keeps telling me, 'Look what you did!'"

Stevens and Steve Guttenberg in the 1986 comedy 'Short Circuit' (Photo: TriStar Pictures/courtesy Everett Collection)


Stevens and Steve Guttenberg in the 1986 comedy 'Short Circuit' (Photo: TriStar Pictures/courtesy Everett Collection)
Stevens wasn't the only young white performer who made the questionable choice to darken their skin for a role in a hit 1986 film. Jenette Goldstein wore brownface to play Hispanic Xenomorph hunter Jenette Vasquez, in James Cameron's sci-fi classic Aliens, which arrived in theaters two months after Short Circuit's release. And later that fall, C. Thomas Howell performed extensively in blackface in the controversial collegiate comedy Soul Man, which grossed nearly $30 million at the box office. "That was a terrible thing," Stevens says of his role in that unfortunate trend. "Now I look back and go, 'Oh, Jesus Christ.'"

Stevens's regrets are shared by Hank Azaria, who recently apologized for voicing Indian convenience store owner, Apu Nahasapeemapetilon, on The Simpsons for nearly three decades before officially retiring the role last year. "I really didn't know any better," the actor remarked during an appearance on the Armchair Expert podcast. "There were very good intentions on all of our part [with Apu]. We tried to do a funny, thoughtful character. Just because there were good intentions doesn't mean there weren't real negative consequences that I am accountable for." (The Simpsons producers have already announced that white actors will no longer voice characters of color on the show.)

Of course, since the real star of Short Circuit is Johnny 5, Stevens says there'd be an easy way to revive the long-dormant series: "I think it would be a great movie to reboot, and just not cast me," he says, laughing. His other stipulation is that Johnny should remain a physical 'bot, not a CGI creation. "It wasn't easy because it was an early robot," he says of the challenges of acting opposite his mechanical co-star 35 years ago. "I would imagine it's similar to a green screen now, only talking to something that was plastic. But that robot is fantastic, and I think they should reboot it. Just not with me in it!"
 
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I think the article does a nice job of showing how that evolution takes place. Seems like an amicable resolution from all and a learning experience for the actor.
Fair point, but it's sad this "haunts" him. It's not like he turned in this type of performance:

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Fair point, but it's sad this "haunts" him. It's not like he turned in this type of performance:

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I mean, clearly that’s a little hyperbolic. I didnt get the sense he is actually constantly thinking about it or pulling his hair out over it. “Regret” would have been a better word choice than “haunt” probably and I think that’s pretty much what he meant, but he made it a little more dramatic because he’s, you know, an actor. 🙂
 
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I mean, clearly that’s a little hyperbolic. I didnt get the sense he is actually constantly thinking about it or pulling his hair out over it. “Regret” would have been a better word choice than “haunt” probably and I think that’s pretty much what he meant, but he made it a little more dramatic because he’s, you know, an actor. 🙂
We, society, do have a propensity, though to do that...drudge up the past to drag someone through the mire over something from 20, 30, 40 years ago (not saying this article is attempting to do that in this case). But we did it with Jimmy Kimmel over his Carl Malone "black face" performance. I don't know about you, but at 47 I barely recognize the 20-year-old-me. I don't even process information the same way I did back then, and some of the things I did and said, I would never dream of today, but I equally realize it was different times and I'm a different person.
 
I was today years old when I learned he wasn't Indian.

Myself also. . .

Funny I was just looking at seeing if I could stream this movie because my wife hasn't seen it. Quite frankly I don't understand why but my wife even though she was born the same year I was, she never saw any of the 80's classics.
 
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We, society, do have a propensity, though to do that...drudge up the past to drag someone through the mire over something from 20, 30, 40 years ago (not saying this article is attempting to do that in this case). But we did it with Jimmy Kimmel over his Carl Malone "black face" performance. I don't know about you, but at 47 I barely recognize the 20-year-old-me. I don't even process information the same way I did back then, and some of the things I did and said, I would never dream of today, but I equally realize it was different times and I'm a different person.
I am a big believer in separating the art from the artist.

Ezra Pound is one of my favorite poets and he was a LITERAL Nazi. The fact he had abhorrent and disgusting political views doesn’t make his poetry (which is decidedly non-political) bad. It just makes him as an individual an asshole.
 
We, society, do have a propensity, though to do that...drudge up the past to drag someone through the mire over something from 20, 30, 40 years ago (not saying this article is attempting to do that in this case). But we did it with Jimmy Kimmel over his Carl Malone "black face" performance. I don't know about you, but at 47 I barely recognize the 20-year-old-me. I don't even process information the same way I did back then, and some of the things I did and said, I would never dream of today, but I equally realize it was different times and I'm a different person.

That's one of the things that I do agree with the right on "cancel culture". People are getting attacked, forced to apologize, and sometimes removed from things because someone managed to dig up something they did years ago when either what they did was considered acceptable at the time or they were a kid.

Kevin Hart cut from the Oscars for some gay jokes like 15 years ago.

Mitchell Miller cut from an NHL team because he bullied a kid when he was 14.

Justin Timberlake apologizes to Britney Spears because of how he was as a teenager and Janet Jackson for I guess not taking the responsibility for the wardrobe malfunction that he didn't come up with the idea for in the first place?

Governor of Virginia had a lot of calls to resign for stuff he did in the 80's when he was in med school.
 
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I am a big believer in separating the art from the artist.

Ezra Pound is one of my favorite poets and he was a LITERAL Nazi. The fact he had abhorrent and disgusting political views doesn’t make his poetry (which is decidedly non-political) bad. It just makes him as an individual an asshole.
I tend to be the same...I love me some Tom Cruise on screen, but off screen he's a loon.


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Why yes, Tom, yes I am.
 
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That's one of the things that I do agree with the right on "cancel culture". People are getting attacked, forced to apologize, and sometimes removed from things because someone managed to dig up something they did years ago when either what they did was considered acceptable at the time or they were a kid.

Kevin Hart cut from the Oscars for some gay jokes like 15 years ago.

Mitchell Miller cut from an NHL team because he bullied a kid when he was 14.

Justin Timberlake apologizes to Britney Spears because of how he was as a teenager and Janet Jackson for I guess not taking the responsibility for the wardrobe malfunction that he didn't come up with the idea for in the first place?

Governor of Virginia had a lot of calls to resign for stuff he did in the 80's when he was in med school.
There's apparently a fine line between learning from the past and attempting to change the past...revisionist history isn't the answer to today's issues. Do I have regrets from the past? Sure. Would I change them? Nope because every misstep has helped shape the person I am today. It's called learning.
 
The role should go to the best actor, not someone who just happens to be the race of the character involved. PC is now ruining films.
 
The role should go to the best actor, not someone who just happens to be the race of the character involved. PC is now ruining films.

The main counter I have to this is that for the longest time they weren’t even looking at nonwhite actors for roles. We still see it today at times. A few years back we had Gerard Butler and Jaime for GoT as Egyptian gods in Gods of Egypt.
 
The role should go to the best actor, not someone who just happens to be the race of the character involved. PC is now ruining films.

If a role is specified to be a specific race or ethnicity though by logic the best actor to portray that role is a person of that race/ethnicity.

Not every character has to have a defined race. You could create a character and just let a lot of different actors try out for the role and the character takes on whatever race the actor that won the part is.

But if you are writing a character of a specific race/ethnicity it makes sense to have someone of that race or ethnicity portray it.

I'm not mad at Fisher Stevens for this. . . this was a very different time then and he was trying to succeed as an actor, but I do understand that our movies should have casts that reflect there characters.

No one would hire a man to play a woman unless that woman was a trans woman. (Which is still basically a man pretending to be a woman.)

So it doesn't make sense to get a white guy to play an Indian guy or black guy or anything like that.
 
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I wish we would quit judging things people did in the past using the metrics of today. Does the actor think playing other ethnicities is still ok? If so, that's the story. However, back then it was commonplace. That doesn't make the practice acceptable, but people shouldn't be held accountable for things that weren't considered bad at the time. Kind of like we can't arrest people for things they did a few years ago that are now illegal. If the person recognizes that it was inappropriate and has evolved their position on it the same way society has, then that should be good enough.
 
I would think that it would be enough to say man, I really wish I hadn't done that, I'm sorry, and leave it at that. I think it's rather ridiculous that he literally is still having to answer for it, or is still haunted by it.

It seems crazy that he is still constantly making amends...here's the thing...he didn't cast himself in that role. He didn't take the job from an Indian actor...obviously the producers never considered an Indian actor. It would be well worth having the producers explain why it was in 1986 that an Indian actor wasn't even considered. And exploration of that kind of automatic bias in hollywood at that time has a chance to be...actually constructive. If we want to talk about this all this time later, this is what we should be talking about.

Not making a powerless 21 year old wanna be actor, who didn't know any better, constantly have to apologize for not having 30 years in the future racial ethics.
 
I would think that it would be enough to say man, I really wish I hadn't done that, I'm sorry, and leave it at that. I think it's rather ridiculous that he literally is still having to answer for it, or is still haunted by it.

It seems crazy that he is still constantly making amends...here's the thing...he didn't cast himself in that role. He didn't take the job from an Indian actor...obviously the producers never considered an Indian actor. It would be well worth having the producers explain why it was in 1986 that an Indian actor wasn't even considered. And exploration of that kind of automatic bias in hollywood at that time has a chance to be...actually constructive. If we want to talk about this all this time later, this is what we should be talking about.

Not making a powerless 21 year old wanna be actor, who didn't know any better, constantly have to apologize for not having 30 years in the future racial ethics.
As an Indian American, I agree. I am also befuddled why Mindy Kaling is chosen for _anything_ :)
 
Why does our society spend so much time digging through the past to bring it forward for chastisement? It's not enough to have simply evolved to the point where today we cast an Indian actor/actress appropriately in a role, we have to open the 1980s archives so we can be outraged, offended, hurt, etc.
Because we're dumb... on many fronts.
 
I would think that it would be enough to say man, I really wish I hadn't done that, I'm sorry, and leave it at that. I think it's rather ridiculous that he literally is still having to answer for it, or is still haunted by it.

It seems crazy that he is still constantly making amends...here's the thing...he didn't cast himself in that role. He didn't take the job from an Indian actor...obviously the producers never considered an Indian actor. It would be well worth having the producers explain why it was in 1986 that an Indian actor wasn't even considered. And exploration of that kind of automatic bias in hollywood at that time has a chance to be...actually constructive. If we want to talk about this all this time later, this is what we should be talking about.

Not making a powerless 21 year old wanna be actor, who didn't know any better, constantly have to apologize for not having 30 years in the future racial ethics.
Is there any evidence he is being “forced” to make an apology? I didn’t see one in the article posted. In fact, the article seemed to be exactly what you said: “it would be enough to say man, I really wish I hadn't done that, I'm sorry.”
 
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I am a big believer in separating the art from the artist.

Ezra Pound is one of my favorite poets and he was a LITERAL Nazi. The fact he had abhorrent and disgusting political views doesn’t make his poetry (which is decidedly non-political) bad. It just makes him as an individual an asshole.
You almost have to take your stance on it because if you didn't you couldn't enjoy a lot of entertainment that's out there. I know this isn't breaking news but a lot of famous artists, actors, and actresses are complete douchebags.
 
You almost have to take your stance on it because if you didn't you couldn't enjoy a lot of entertainment that's out there. I know this isn't breaking news but a lot of famous artists, actors, and actresses are complete douchebags.
Probably more than half of star athletes are also people you would never want to know. Hell, Aaron Rodgers’ own FAMILY hates him!
 
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Is there any evidence he is being “forced” to make an apology? I didn’t see one in the article posted. In fact, the article seemed to be exactly what you said: “it would be enough to say man, I really wish I hadn't done that, I'm sorry.”

I don't know, it seems odd that he had to be pulled up by Aziz Ansari and that they had to "eventually arrived at a mutual understanding when they spoke for the New York Times." It doesn't feel like Stevens of 1986 owes the wildly successful 2020 Aziz Ansari some kind of solemn dialogue and contrition about it. I absolutely think it's in bounds for Ansari to talk about what it meant to him, for sure. I think it's overboard that he had to come to some kind of peace negotiation with the actor.

That said, I've seen this brought up numerous times over the last 5-6 years, and I'm like "they're still beating this guy up over this?", but if you told me that the coverage originates with Stevens himself, I wouldn't be surprised, it's like the only thing he's ever back in the spotlight for. So it's quite possible that he makes sure to have himself publicly dragged on the regular to stay "relevant".
 
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I don't know, it seems odd that he had to be pulled up by Aziz Ansari and that they had to "eventually arrived at a mutual understanding when they spoke for the New York Times." It doesn't feel like Stevens of 1986 owes the wildly successful 2020 Aziz Ansari some kind of solemn dialogue and contrition about it. I absolutely think it's in bounds for Ansari to talk about what it meant to him, for sure. I think it's overboard that he had to come to some kind of peace negotiation with the actor.

That said, I've seen this brought up numerous times over the last 5-6 years, and I'm like "they're still beating this guy up over this?", but if you told me that the coverage originates with Stevens himself, I wouldn't be surprised, it's like the only thing he's ever back in the spotlight for. So it's quite possible that he makes sure to have himself publicly dragged on the regular to stay "relevant".
Negative attention, is after all, attention, right?
 
I don't know, it seems odd that he had to be pulled up by Aziz Ansari and that they had to "eventually arrived at a mutual understanding when they spoke for the New York Times." It doesn't feel like Stevens of 1986 owes the wildly successful 2020 Aziz Ansari some kind of solemn dialogue and contrition about it. I absolutely think it's in bounds for Ansari to talk about what it meant to him, for sure. I think it's overboard that he had to come to some kind of peace negotiation with the actor.

That said, I've seen this brought up numerous times over the last 5-6 years, and I'm like "they're still beating this guy up over this?", but if you told me that the coverage originates with Stevens himself, I wouldn't be surprised, it's like the only thing he's ever back in the spotlight for. So it's quite possible that he makes sure to have himself publicly dragged on the regular to stay "relevant".
Aziz doesn't really associate with his heritage either.
 
I land in the middle on this. I can see how Stevens looks back and believes that his portrayal of that character hasn’t aged well and so regrets doing it to some extent. This is one where I think it’s not the best perhaps - if they did it today it would be much simpler to have a native Indian in the role; but also, compared to other portrayals I’ve seen over the years, this isn’t nearly as bad as others.
 
Aziz doesn't really associate with his heritage either.

He's got a pretty interesting story, he's from South Carolina. I'm interested in what he has to say about his heritage and experience. When he first came on the scene, he was kind of unique from a public perspective in being Indian, without being Indian as his defining persona.

We live in an area with a substantial Indian population, but not quite such that they form insular communities. Two of my sons best friends, at least a third of his boy scout troop, much of his school. Many, many of them, are totally...well I won't use the term Americanized because that's offensive and implies others are less American. Let's just say they're much more Aziz Ansari than stereotyped Indian study 10 hours a day math nerds. And others hew closer to stereotyped Indian cultural expectations (words from their mouth, not my stereotypes). If you look at their parents...no difference in their cultural style at all really, but their kids can be very different.

I think the Indian experience in America at this very moment is super interesting, and very little explored in the national conversation. I probably didn't think about it at all until now they are my kids' friends, and their parents are my friends, especially through Scouts. The kids who are teenagers right now are working through an awful lot about their cultural expectations and pressures. I've certainly seen ZERO indication from any toward shedding their heritage or anything less than pride in being Indian, but there is some bristling against some of the cultural pressures, and wanting what it means to be Indian-American to be a lot broader than what it's been in the post-Apu, pre-Aziz period. For some of them, it's actually pretty challenging.

Anyway, hope that's not racist. Getting close to so many people from a background I had zero contact with before 20 years ago has really been awesome, and they're having a unique experience you'd have no idea if you don't personally know them.
 
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He's got a pretty interesting story, he's from South Carolina. I'm interested in what he has to say about his heritage and experience. When he first came on the scene, he was kind of unique from a public perspective in being Indian, without being Indian as his defining persona.

We live in an area with a substantial Indian population, but not quite such that they form insular communities. Two of my sons best friends, at least a third of his boy scout troop, much of his school. Many, many of them, are totally...well I won't use the term Americanized because that's offensive and implies others are less American. Let's just say they're much more Aziz Ansari than stereotyped Indian study 10 hours a day math nerds. And others hew closer to stereotyped Indian cultural expectations (words from their mouth, not my stereotypes). If you look at their parents...no difference in their cultural style at all really, but their kids can be very different.

I think the Indian experience in America at this very moment is super interesting, and very little explored in the national conversation. I probably didn't think about it at all until now they are my kids' friends, and their parents are my friends, especially through Scouts. The kids who are teenagers right now are working through an awful lot about their cultural expectations and pressures. I've certainly seen ZERO indication from any toward shedding their heritage or anything less than pride in being Indian, but there is some bristling against some of the cultural pressures, and wanting what it means to be Indian-American to be a lot broader than what it's been in the post-Apu, pre-Aziz period. For some of them, it's actually pretty challenging.

Anyway, hope that's not racist. Getting close to so many people from a background I had zero contact with before 20 years ago has really been awesome, and they're having a unique experience you'd have no idea if you don't personally know them.
You're not racist at all. You are absolutely correct in saying the Indian diaspora is varied. We got everything from the prototype nerd (me) to those who are in the arts, entertainment, government etc.
 
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You're not racist at all. You are absolutely correct in saying the Indian diaspora is varied. We got everything from the prototype nerd (me) to those who are in the arts, entertainment, government etc.

Yep, and among the youth, sports. Ten years ago my daughters Indian friends weren't very sports minded at all, maybe because she wasn't. Among my son's friends, the most into sports are his Indian friends.

It will be interesting to see in my lifetime I think we're going to go from the only representation being the motel/convenience store portrayal, to the uber nerd/doctor stereotype, to 15 years from now when this generation makes their mark...there's pretty much going to be no easy stereotype to make. Interesting to see that whole thing evolve over maybe 40-50 years up close.
 
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I honestly don't know why Fisher Stevens feels the least bit guilty. If anything, he put Indian scientists/engineers on the map when all we were shown as were eating monkey brains (Indiana Jones). Moreover, there was a romantic angle between his Indian character and a white woman, which in those days would have been beyond terrible. His career sadly did not take off but he should have no buyers remorse, whatsoever.
 
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I, for one, am glad to see Stevens held accountable. There must be a reckoning with casting choices from 30+ years ago. They should really burn the master reels and delete any digital files.

*batteries not included was a good movie from the same era. It was better than Short Circuit 2 because it didn't feature a spastic robot, but it did feature a couple of crusty old yt folx in Hume Cronyn and Jessica Tandy.

Granted, it also had Elizabeth Peña of I Married Dora fame (oof/yikes! We can uNpAcK this problematic show later!) and Frank McRae, who I just found out died two weeks ago (RIP, sincerely).
 
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I, for one, am glad to see Stevens held accountable. There must be a reckoning with casting choices from 30+ years ago. They should really burn the master reels and delete any digital files.

*batteries not included was a good movie from the same era. It was better than Short Circuit 2 because it didn't feature a spastic robot, but it did feature a couple of crusty old yt folx in Hume Cronyn and Jessica Tandy.

Granted, it also had Elizabeth Peña of I Married Dora fame (oof/yikes! We can uNpAcK this problematic show later!) and Frank McRae, who I just found out died two weeks ago (RIP, sincerely).
Ok I laughed out loud at this one. You are in full flow. Love it.
 
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