Florida Theocrats Wasting More Time...

[NoleATL]

I really need to rethink this whole retiring in Florida thing...

http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/grade...o-post-in-god-we-trust-in-all-public-schools/

With the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High shooting still looming large, its students in the Capitol to lobby for gun controls, the Florida House overwhelmingly passed a measure Wednesday its sponsor said aimed at bringing "light" to the schools.

The bill (HB 839) would require all public schools to post the state motto, "In God We Trust," in a "conspicuous place."

RELATED COVERAGE: NRA influential in Florida, but not through campaign money

Sponsor Rep. Kim Daniels, a Jacksonville Democrat who runs her own ministry, said Florida needed the legislation, given the goings on in the state.

"He is not a Republican or a Democrat. He is not black or white," Daniels said. "He is the light, and our schools need light in them like never before."

RELATED COVERAGE: Florida House declares pornography a health risk

She spoke directly of the school shooting, and said it's no secret that the state has "gun issues" that must be addressed.

"But the real thing that needs to be addressed are issues of the heart," Daniels said.

She mentioned video games as an example, saying children are being trained to become virtual assassins. Things might be getting so bad, Daniels suggested, that people will come to realize problems are much larger than politics.

"We cannot put God in a closet when the issues we face are bigger than us," she said, urging colleagues to back the bill.

The bill passed 97-10, with the result winning a standing ovation. The Senate has yet to take up a companion bill in any committees.

 

[joelbc1]

And “Onward Christian Soldiers” should become the official school song for every HS in the state. See, even Dems have plans for MAGA.

 

[Raglefant]

"He is not a Republican or a Democrat. He is not black or white," Daniels said. "He is the light, and our schools need light in them like never before."

He? Sexist!

 

[Hoosierhawkeye]

Ugggg I'm pretty sure God does not like his name being offered up as a useless platitude by people with the power to help but don't want to.

 

[Menace Sockeyes]

God being invited into a place worked so well for all those priest's altar boy-toys.

 

[naturalmwa]

I’m glad god is coming out of the closet. It gets better. No H8.

 

[Raglefant]

"He is not a Republican or a Democrat. He is not black or white," Daniels said. "He is the light, and our schools need light in them like never before."

She wants The Rock to defend Florida schools?

 

[BrianNole09]

Which religion do you guys dislike the most?

I know natty says Islam.

How about you @NoleATL?

 

[NoleATL]

Which religion do you guys dislike the most?

I know natty says Islam.

How about you @NoleATL?

I don't inherently dislike any religion. I do hate the behavior of SOME practitioners of most religions. Southern Baptists are probably the worst.

 

[The Tradition]

I also hear the legislature passed a bill requiring "IN GOD WE TRUST" be printed on all cans and bottles of Pepsi sold in the state.

 

[LuciousBDragon]

The saying goes “where was God when this _______ (insert horrible event) happened and the answer from God is you didn’t want me in _______ (insert place where event occurred).

Putting In God we Trust back won’t guarantee anything. That being said, I’m still for it for the sole reason that my hope is as each person sees it it makes them think whose child they really are. If it helps move one person to Christ then it should be done.

The problems of this world will never go away. The only way they could is if we each worship the same thing (the unfailable, perfect God and accept the salvation he offers through his son Jesus Christ).

We are built to worship. Man has worshipped something since the dawn of time. You worship something, I worship something. Only when we all worship the same thing could peace come down from Heaven to Earth.

Till then, we will continue to live in a broken, fallen world.

 

[joelbc1]

The saying goes “where was God when this _______ (insert horrible event) happened and the answer from God is you didn’t want me in _______ (insert place where event occurred).

Putting In God we Trust back won’t guarantee anything. That being said, I’m still for it for the sole reason that my hope is as each person sees it it makes them think whose child they really are. If it helps move one person to Christ then it should be done.

The problems of this world will never go away. The only way they could is if we each worship the same thing (the unfailable, perfect God and accept the salvation he offers through his son Jesus Christ).

We are built to worship. Man has worshipped something since the dawn of time. You worship something, I worship something. Only when we all worship the same thing could peace come down from Heaven to Earth.

Till then, we will continue to live in a broken, fallen world.

Luscious...so you really believe this tripe? The idea of God is a good one...where this idea loses credibility is when MAN gets involved.
What folks here in the US fail to understand is that the Constitution GUARANTEES all of us freedom FROM religion. I as a citizen, can take it or leave it, as I choose. You as a citizen have the same right. You can celebrate God as you choose, not as the state chooses. I don't have to be exposed to your choice if I don't want to be. That's 'Merica....that is making 'Merica great again. Advertising God in public places is not part of America. Our FF understood that.

 

[The_Joker13]

I love St Pete but it’s like livin on an island here in Florida. A lot of the state is ass backward hillbilly.

 

[The Tradition]

I love St Pete but it’s like livin on an island here in Florida. A lot of the state is ass backward hillbilly.

The farther north you go, the farther south you get.

 

[Hawk_4shur]

I glad to see they are tackling the important things down in Florida.

 

[The_Joker13]

The farther north you go, the farther south you get.

No doubt

 

[srams21]

That being said, I’m still for it for the sole reason that my hope is as each person sees it it makes them think whose child they really are. If it helps move one person to Christ then it should be done.

The government's job isn't to advance to specific religion.

Funny how you cons love that second amendment but don't care much about the first one.

 

[LuciousBDragon]

The government's job isn't to advance to specific religion.

Funny how you cons love that second amendment but don't care much about the first one.

I just said that I’m for it. I am not an authorized agent of the federal government.

My job is to advance my specific religion.

 

[Joes Place]

I really need to rethink this whole retiring in Florida thing...

http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/grade...o-post-in-god-we-trust-in-all-public-schools/

With the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High shooting still looming large, its students in the Capitol to lobby for gun controls, the Florida House overwhelmingly passed a measure Wednesday its sponsor said aimed at bringing "light" to the schools.

The bill (HB 839) would require all public schools to post the state motto, "In God We Trust," in a "conspicuous place."

RELATED COVERAGE: NRA influential in Florida, but not through campaign money

Sponsor Rep. Kim Daniels, a Jacksonville Democrat who runs her own ministry, said Florida needed the legislation, given the goings on in the state.

"He is not a Republican or a Democrat. He is not black or white," Daniels said. "He is the light, and our schools need light in them like never before."

RELATED COVERAGE: Florida House declares pornography a health risk

She spoke directly of the school shooting, and said it's no secret that the state has "gun issues" that must be addressed.

"But the real thing that needs to be addressed are issues of the heart," Daniels said.

She mentioned video games as an example, saying children are being trained to become virtual assassins. Things might be getting so bad, Daniels suggested, that people will come to realize problems are much larger than politics.

"We cannot put God in a closet when the issues we face are bigger than us," she said, urging colleagues to back the bill.

The bill passed 97-10, with the result winning a standing ovation. The Senate has yet to take up a companion bill in any committees.

Well....it sure worked to protect all've them peeps in the South Carolina and Texas churches, didn't it?

 

[texas twister]

The government's job isn't to advance to specific religion.

Funny how you cons love that second amendment but don't care much about the first one.

What religion is being advanced? Is it Roman Catholicism, Baptist, Methodist, or Lutheran? The first Amendment is aimed at establishing a church/state union. Never did the founders exclude God from documents and existence. They just intended no sanctioned state religion like what they left in The Church of England.

 

[Joes Place]

What religion is being advanced? Is it Roman Catholicism, Baptist, Methodist, or Lutheran?

It's called "Christianity". You can probably Google to learn more about it.

 

[The Tradition]

It's called "Christianity". You can probably Google to learn more about it.

"God" is not exclusive to Christianity....

 

[LuciousBDragon]

"God" is not exclusive to Christianity....

Perhaps they could agree to: "In Non-Denominational Deity and/or Nothing we trust."

 

[Joes Place]

"God" is not exclusive to Christianity....

It is the word for the Creator associated with Christianity.

Change it to Allah, then. Watch the ensuing fun.

 

[The Tradition]

It is the word for the Creator associated with Christianity.

G-d

http://www.jewfaq.org/name.htm#Writing

 

[Joes Place]

G-d

http://www.jewfaq.org/name.htm#Writing

Yahweh

 

[The Tradition]

Yahweh

Many names for God.

 

[Joes Place]

G-d

http://www.jewfaq.org/name.htm#Writing

Now, you can go "all in" with the Jews in allowing abortions into the 9th month of pregnancy, because according to them, "life only begins at the first breath of air".....

 

[FAUlty Gator]

What folks here in the US fail to understand is that the Constitution GUARANTEES all of us freedom FROM religion. I as a citizen, can take it or leave it, as I choose. You as a citizen have the same right. You can celebrate God as you choose, not as the state chooses. I don't have to be exposed to your choice if I don't want to be. That's 'Merica....that is making 'Merica great again. Advertising God in public places is not part of America. Our FF understood that.

I guess you never actually read the 1st Amendment or have little understanding of religion.

1A states "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,"

So, what religion is being represented here by the word "God"? Catholicism? Southern Baptist? Hebrew? Muslim? You know all of these religions worship God, don't you? So, no single religion is being established by this law. Advertising God in public is perfectly legal. Welcome to 'Merica.

And before you go start getting all vague with the interpretation and meaning of 1A, you better remember how technically Dems are trying to take 2A these days.

All that said, what a stupid effing law.

 

[SalAunese]

Doesn’t OP live in a Bible Belt State?

 

[BelemNole]

The saying goes “where was God when this _______ (insert horrible event) happened and the answer from God is you didn’t want me in _______ (insert place where event occurred).

Putting In God we Trust back won’t guarantee anything. That being said, I’m still for it for the sole reason that my hope is as each person sees it it makes them think whose child they really are. If it helps move one person to Christ then it should be done.

The problems of this world will never go away. The only way they could is if we each worship the same thing (the unfailable, perfect God and accept the salvation he offers through his son Jesus Christ).

We are built to worship. Man has worshipped something since the dawn of time. You worship something, I worship something. Only when we all worship the same thing could peace come down from Heaven to Earth.

Till then, we will continue to live in a broken, fallen world.

Jesus jumping christ

 

[JMNSHO]

Doesn’t OP live in a Bible Belt State?

Seems like these days the Bible Belt has become more like a Cumberbund.

 

[joelbc1]

I guess you never actually read the 1st Amendment or have little understanding of religion.

1A states "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,"

So, what religion is being represented here by the word "God"? Catholicism? Southern Baptist? Hebrew? Muslim? You know all of these religions worship God, don't you? So, no single religion is being established by this law. Advertising God in public is perfectly legal. Welcome to 'Merica.

And before you go start getting all vague with the interpretation and meaning of 1A, you better remember how technically Dems are trying to take 2A these days.

All that said, what a stupid effing law.

The 1st was written expressly to ban an official “state” religion, like England had with their Church of England. It also protects all citizens fron any type of religion. You say there is religious freedom....I say there is freedom FROM religion in this nation. My right is not to be exposed to religion, if I so choose. Your right is to be able to practice your religion as you se fit, while respecting my rights too. You can practice your religion all you want in your place of worship...go to it. I believe it is my right not to have it shoved down my throat in a public place...like a courthouse, a school function or the like.

 

[joelbc1]

I just said that I’m for it. I am not an authorized agent of the federal government.

My job is to advance my specific religion.

That is the rub, son. As an American, it is my right not to have your religious tripe shoved down my throat. Doesn’t your God teach tolerance...or are you a radical Muslim?

 

[LuciousBDragon]

That is the rub, son. As an American, it is my right not to have your religious tripe shoved down my throat. Doesn’t your God teach tolerance...or are you a radical Muslim?

I will say a prayer that the perfect love you are longing for finds your heart Joel!

 

[LuciousBDragon]

You say there is religious freedom....I say there is freedom FROM religion in this nation.

You are not correct. You can enjoy the freedom from the establishment of a State religion and it ends there.

The 1st was written expressly to ban an official “state” religion, like England had with their Church of England. It also protects all citizens fron any type of religion. You say there is religious freedom....I say there is freedom FROM religion in this nation. My right is not to be exposed to religion, if I so choose. Your right is to be able to practice your religion as you se fit, while respecting my rights too. You can practice your religion all you want in your place of worship...go to it. I believe it is my right not to have it shoved down my throat in a public place...like a courthouse, a school function or the like.

You are not correct. You have the freedoms from the establishment of a State religion. I have the right to practice my religion in a public area = Yay! Hooray for me and others like me!!!!!

I know you don’t want it shoved down your throat. Has anyone besides the gheys here actually put anything down your throat or in any of your other orafaces for that matter? No, they haven’t.

I have to be exposed to your silliness on a public message board so I think you can tolerate a church rally held in a public park or courthouse lawn. It’s called tolerance. It’s ok, try it! Your party preaches it (oops! I said preach!)!

It’s fun to have different ideas and to hear them from those who want to spread their ideas peaceably. What a boring world if we all thought the same thing. I like to hear the other side of the coin constantly, keeps me challenged. Do you not enjoy a good challenge Joel?

 

[joelbc1]

You are not correct. You can enjoy the freedom from the establishment of a State religion and it ends there.


You are not correct. You have the freedoms from the establishment of a State religion. I have the right to practice my religion in a public area = Yay! Hooray for me and others like me!!!!!

I know you don’t want it shoved down your throat. Has anyone besides the gheys here actually put anything down your throat or in any of your other orafaces for that matter? No, they haven’t.

I have to be exposed to your silliness on a public message board so I think you can tolerate a church rally held in a public park or courthouse lawn. It’s called tolerance. It’s ok, try it! Your party preaches it (oops! I said preach!)!

It’s fun to have different ideas and to hear them from those who want to spread their ideas peaceably. What a boring world if we all thought the same thing. I like to hear the other side of the coin constantly, keeps me challenged. Do you not enjoy a good challenge Joel?

I usually don't find borish behavior a challenge. I find folks who wear their religion on their sleeve are 1) not real confident in what they believe or 2) not real smart, or 3) a combination of both. Politics has no place in religion and religion has no place in politics. Both could use a sizable dose of ethics. I shy away from folks whom wrap themselves in the flag and carry a Bible. Not my kettle of fish.

 

[joelbc1]

I will say a prayer that the perfect love you are longing for finds your heart Joel!

and that is the attitude that exasperates the issue, Lucious. Both sides are guilty.
In my mind, I really don't need your help....as much as I need your non-meddling in my affairs. If you want to pray for me, fine....just don't tell me about it, ok? Stay off my lawn, unless I invite on it. THAT is my right as an American.

 

[The Tradition]

The 1st was written expressly to ban an official “state” religion, like England had with their Church of England. It also protects all citizens fron any type of religion. You say there is religious freedom....I say there is freedom FROM religion in this nation. My right is not to be exposed to religion, if I so choose. Your right is to be able to practice your religion as you se fit, while respecting my rights too. You can practice your religion all you want in your place of worship...go to it. I believe it is my right not to have it shoved down my throat in a public place...like a courthouse, a school function or the like.

That is completely inaccurate. Evangelists have the right to speak to you about why they love their faith. You have the right to walk away and not listen, but you don't have the right to force such speech out of the public square and require they only speak of it within the confines of their churches.

 

[E.RogerCoswell]

Ugggg I'm pretty sure God does not like his name being offered up as a useless platitude by people with the power to help but don't want to.

Not religious by any means, but this seems consistent with the Catholic theology I got through Catholic schools as a kid. Really seems like an empty gesture. A priest I had for religion class in high school would say that "hard work is the only prayer that God hears" or something along those lines. This seems like a total copout that stupid people will get behind, but nothing more.