Fran needs to find wifi and take a look at the portal. He will never make it past the second round with his players that much is clear. Other than Garza, Iowa was totally overmatched at every position and it wasn't even close. Oregon could have turned that into a 30 point game had Altman not let up. And a healthy CJ and Nunge would not have made any difference. 10 years of Fran with his best team ever and they still can't compete in the second round.
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The only thing that makes sense is CMAC is moving on to play baseball. I don't think Fran will be able to keep all three of the Perkins, Ulis, JoeT group if CMAC returns. He also won't be able to get a replacement from the Portal if CMAC is returning.
I don't think this Iowa team will make NCAA tourney next year, but if they do, they'll have a better chance at getting to sweet16 because at least they will be capable of playing defense. Just need the coach to buy in that defense is a priority.
Iowa needs someone with a low post back to basket game for next year. The inside out game will not work with Nunge in Low post.
I don't think this Iowa team will make NCAA tourney next year, but if they do, they'll have a better chance at getting to sweet16 because at least they will be capable of playing defense. Just need the coach to buy in that defense is a priority.
Iowa needs someone with a low post back to basket game for next year. The inside out game will not work with Nunge in Low post.
I don't know what Iowa needs given what Oregon did to them with a 6'6 post / forward / guard who reminded me of Draymond Green. I didn't think Oregon = Gonzaga but apparently they do.
This is the year to be aggressive in the transfer portal given the need for big(s) and more perimeter quickness.
I show 3 available rides assuming no Weezy (he’s gone & will do the G League / NBA 2 way contract model like Uthoff & Cook) nor JBo. It could be 4 if CMac relinquishes his ride as he’s been on scholarship 4 years now if memory serves. I do think he’ll be back playing hoops next year IMO but he needs to have a much more limited role with way less minutes off the bench.
Fran needs to bring in at least 2 transfers - 3 if he’s fortunate to get a solid grad transfer. I’d be okay with JBo coming back for one last year (unlikely) only as a 3 point specialist backing up CJF.
I show 3 available rides assuming no Weezy (he’s gone & will do the G League / NBA 2 way contract model like Uthoff & Cook) nor JBo. It could be 4 if CMac relinquishes his ride as he’s been on scholarship 4 years now if memory serves. I do think he’ll be back playing hoops next year IMO but he needs to have a much more limited role with way less minutes off the bench.
Fran needs to bring in at least 2 transfers - 3 if he’s fortunate to get a solid grad transfer. I’d be okay with JBo coming back for one last year (unlikely) only as a 3 point specialist backing up CJF.
Take a shot whenever Logic mentions Cmac in a post. Only 3 this time......maybe a buzz, depending on your beverage of choice.
So basically you are saying Oregon would have won the Big Ten and it wouldn't have been close? It was one game. Play a 10 game series and Iowa wins the majority.
You think Iowa wins the majority of games against Oregon after the guards got outscored 67-0? How do you make that deficit up? It's not like Oregon is going to get slower while Iowa gets faster.
They don't play the game with just guards. The NCAA tournament is a one and done scenario. Teams have bad games and the better team does not always win.
And then better teams do always win, Oregon is one of them.
I didn't hear Fran complaining before the Oregon game, that he had so many players that were injured to the level that they needed surgery after the season. Not that he would.
You don't think that Oregon had any players that were injured, do you?
I was deeply disappointed that Fran knew he had players that were not 100% and still played them against athletic heathy players. Inexcusable!
Yea I'm pissed, and I'm sure there's many more Iowa fans out there that feel the same way I do.
You honestly don't think that this game was an anomaly? When have the Iowa guards EVER scored ZERO points? Never. Oregon had over a week off, Iowa had 38 effing hours. Of vourse Oregon looked and was fresher. And they were able to focus only on Iowa. It was a crap move by the NCAA for a higher seed to get screwed like that.
Depends on how athletic the 7fter is.
I really don't want anymore slow guys who primarily play back to the basket.
The less minutes by JBO and Connor the more even the matchup becomes.
If they each play zero minutes Iowa could win that game.
No, I do not think it was an anomaly for two reasons: 1) There is no scenario where the trio of Connor, Jbo and CJ fare well against Oregon or any other team with their level of athleticism. Footnote, it's really just Jbo and CJ because Connor goes scoreless a lot. 2) Iowa's defense will be bad in all 10 games. Do I think Oregon will shoot out of their minds 10 of 10 times? No. But the reality of Iowa not being able to guard all over the floor gives me confidence Iowa at best would go 1-9 in a 10 game series. It's like Indiana on steroids and we saw how that turned out.
Agree and I think even this is generous. Oregon was up into every Iowa ballhandler to the point that they didn't want to dribble. I think a healthy CJ and Jbo and Fran utilizing more Perkins and Joe T. and less Connor makes Iowa more competitive, but Oregon and teams like them are just plain bad matchups for Iowa.
That's an amazing amount of BS crammed into a few sentences
CMac played 12 minutes, CJ played 13. It was because they were injured that JoBo was ineffective or not playing, he was chased and guarded. JoBo, BTW, only played 19 minutes.
Who then? Are you blaming Toussaint? Ulis? Perkins? Or was this McC's fault for playing injured players, even though they kept Iowa close for the first 15 minutes?
Scoring 0 points and playing bad D did not keep Iowa close.
Garza kept it close for a while.
Garza kept Iowa close for 15 minutes. Iowa was at their best with the lineup of Joe T., Pmac, Murray, Perkins and I think Garza. When Fran took them out, Oregon went on that 10-0 run. Pretty sure Joe T. and Perkins outscored CJ, Connor and Jbo. I realize they were injured but then why play them? Using my unsophisticated non-Fran brain, it seems logical to play a healthy Perkins over Connor with two torn labrums and whatever combo of Joe T. / Ulis was needed to put a non-injury hampered player on the court. Using your numbers, that's 44 minutes of PT for those 3 that yielded 0 points.
Never know. Iowa should challenge them to a 10 game post season matchup. Just because I want more basketball.
No idea where the series would land, but Iowa's guards wouldn't go scoreless every time, and Oregon wouldn't be on fire everytime.
I had to compare those like three times. You sly dog. Caught my mistake.
Oregon got 67 points from their starting guards and Iowa got 0. Garza had a phenomenal game and Iowa got blown out. I beg to differ on the valuation you place on guard play. It's why they say great teams have great guards. Look at the guards in the sweet 16 compared to Iowa's. You have seen Michigan play I assume. Take Mike Smith off that team and replace him with Connor or Jbo--Michigan would not be close to the same team. Same with Abmas at ORU.
Oregon would shut down our starting guards every single time. They are better athletes and way better defenders. We have spot up shooters. If you didn’t see or understand that, I don’t know what to tell you.
Is Iowa allowed to adjust? I would guess if we rematched Garza gets 30 touchs and forces a defensive change. If Oregon isn't insanely on fire they would have to adjust moving in doubles or triples and eventually open a guard or two.
Iowa got caught, but Oregon isn't Zaga. Somehow we kept that Zaga game closer.
Agree. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but if you didn't see Oregon about 4 levels above Iowa athletically, I am not sure what game you watched. Yes Oregon shot well, but that tends to happen when you get blow by layups and dunks at will coupled with wide open uncontested 3's. It's like Iowa vs. a non-conference cupcake opponent---play those games 10 times and Iowa wins all 10.
The adjustment needs to come via recruiting. Recruit more athletic guys and give them two options. Play defense or sit regardless of your status. Teams like Oregon can wreck a team like Iowa who doesn't have guys to create separation off the bounce. If you have ever played basketball against someone a lot quicker / athletic you know what I am talking about.
I have. I played hoops against Terrence "TDog the Third" Dog the Third.
Iowa should have also tried to slow the pace too which 9/10 teams seem to do in the tourney. They tried to go up and down and it backfired.
You need to listen to Fran's interview on the big he's after in the portal. Nah you don't care, you like to rag on Fran and Iowa basketball.
It’s amazing that Iowa was the favorite in the game against Oregon. I imagine everyone in this thread made a fortune betting on the game, given the outcome was so certain.
