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Freedom Act Passes Senate, Freedom Dies

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Breaking: FREEDOM Act Passes Senate, Freedom Dies
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By a vote of 67-32 the Senate today passed the USA FREEDOM Act, just days after the expiration of key elements of the USA PATRIOT Act. The FREEDOM Act is billed as a reform of the unconstitutional and recently-ruled illegal bulk collection of Americans’ telecommunications, but in fact it is a whole new level of attack on civil liberties.

Here are just a couple of ways the FREEDOM Act is worse than the PATRIOT Act:

1) The recent decision of the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals that the bulk collection of American citizens’ telecommunications information was not authorized by the USA PATRIOT Act means that as of this afternoon, the bulk collection of American citizens’ telecommunications information was an illegal act. The government was breaking the law each time it grabbed our metadata. The moment the FREEDOM is signed by President Obama that same activity will become legal. How is making an unconstitutional and illegal act into a legal one a benefit to civil liberties?

2) The FREEDOM Act turns private telecommunications companies into agents of state security. They will be required to store our personal information and hand it over to state security organs upon demand. How do we know this development is a step in the wrong direction? It is reportedly the brainchild of Gen. Keith B. Alexander, the NSA director at the time! According to press reports, this was but a public relations move to deflect criticism of the bulk collection program. Alexander “saw the move as a way for Obama to respond to public criticism without losing programs the NSA deemed more essential,” reports Homeland Security News.

3) The FREEDOM Act turns private telecommunications companies into depositories of “pre-crime” data for future use of state security agencies. It is a classic authoritarian move for the state to co-opt and subsume the private sector. Once the FREEDOM Act is signed, Americans’ telecommunications information will be retained by the telecommunications companies for the use of state security agencies in potential future investigations. In other words, an individual under no suspicion of any crime and thus deserving full Fourth and Fifth Amendment protection will nevertheless find himself providing evidence against his future self should that person ever fall under suspicion. That is not jurisprudence in a free society.

4) The FREEDOM Act provides liability protection for the telecommunications firms who steal and store our private telecommunications information. In other words, there is not a thing you can do about the theft as long as the thief is a “private” agent of the state.

It is very telling that the same Congressional leaders who have supported the PATRIOT Act for all these years are now propagandizing Americans in favor of the FREEDOM Act.

FREEDOM Act becomes law; freedom, RIP.

https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/breaking-freedom-act-passes-senate-freedom-dies/
 
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Three key provisions in the US Patriot Act authorizing US government mass surveillance are expiring on June 1, 2015.
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On Monday, the Senate will meet to reconsider the USA Freedom Act, which updates Patriot Act surveillance authorities and allegedly limits bulk data collection in the United States.



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In case it isn't obvious, let me point out 2 things...

Democrats, YOUR PRESIDENT joined together with mainly Republicans to pass this anti-liberty piece of shit.

Republicans, YOUR ELECTED REPS joined together will Obama and some Democrats to pass this anti-liberty piece of shit.

One more thing. These same assholes are pushing the TPP. Which is even worse!
 
In case it isn't obvious, let me point out 2 things...

Democrats, YOUR PRESIDENT joined together with mainly Republicans to pass this anti-liberty piece of shit.

Republicans, YOUR ELECTED REPS joined together will Obama and some Democrats to pass this anti-liberty piece of shit.

One more thing. These same assholes are pushing the TPP. Which is even worse!
Now you're talking Parser. This is an abomination and people simply don't know or don't care.
 
Think about how boldly deceitful these bastids are. A Freedom Bill was passed in 1787. Soooooo, they pass a nefarious bill and smack a cool sounding name to it.
 
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I was glad to see Bernie Sanders in the nays. No shock to see Paul in the nays as well. I have to give him credit for his work on this situation.

Cruz and Warren in the Yeas.

Baldwin (D-WI), Nay
Barrasso (R-WY), Nay
Blunt (R-MO), Nay
Burr (R-NC), Nay
Coats (R-IN), Nay
Cochran (R-MS), Nay
Collins (R-ME), Nay
Corker (R-TN), Nay
Cotton (R-AR), Nay
Crapo (R-ID), Nay
Enzi (R-WY), Nay
Ernst (R-IA), Nay
Fischer (R-NE), Nay
Hatch (R-UT), Nay
Isakson (R-GA), Nay
McCain (R-AZ), Nay
McConnell (R-KY), Nay
Moran (R-KS), Nay
Paul (R-KY), Nay
Perdue (R-GA), Nay
Portman (R-OH), Nay
Risch (R-ID), Nay
Roberts (R-KS), Nay
Rubio (R-FL), Nay
Sanders (I-VT), Nay
Sasse (R-NE), Nay
Sessions (R-AL), Nay
Shelby (R-AL), Nay
Thune (R-SD), Nay
Tillis (R-NC), Nay
Toomey (R-PA), Nay
Wicker (R-MS), Nay
 
Yes, a republican one in this case, Rep. F. James Sensenbrenner Jr. (R, WI-5).

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I looked up this piece of shit on govtrack. I think everyone needs to blow up his office for sponsoring this piece of shit legislation.
 
I looked up this piece of shit on govtrack. I think everyone needs to blow up his office for sponsoring this piece of shit legislation.
Umm, you might want to edit or ask for this to be deleted as you're probably going to be getting a surprise visit from the feds.

Also all should understand when you support any politician, D or R, that is for the expansion of govt in any way, garbage like this is what you deserve. You are simply begging to be ruled over like a helpless slave.
 
the problem is: al q and now isis are being funded and made up and storied, by all these same guys

it's all a lie to take our liberties
 
the problem is: al q and now isis are being funded and made up and storied, by all these same guys

it's all a lie to take our liberties

I am not sure they are made up, but they are being used as convenient scapegoats to pass broad privacy destroying and fourth amendment destroying laws.
 
I am not sure they are made up, but they are being used as convenient scapegoats to pass broad privacy destroying and fourth amendment destroying laws.
the people and the players are not made up or fake people, but the whole entire story-line is made up and fabricated. there are radical muslims out there, just no proof of a solid government run by these guys, no centralized enemy, too scattered

our politicians make up the fact that there is an isis or al q leadership and centralized government, because we only know that kind of structure here, so it's us against them, our feds against theirs, that's what they want us to visualize

no proof the muslims did 9-11 either
 
the people and the players are not made up or fake people, but the whole entire story-line is made up and fabricated. there are radical muslims out there, just no proof of a solid government run by these guys, no centralized enemy, too scattered

our politicians make up the fact that there is an isis or al q leadership and centralized government, because we only know that kind of structure here, so it's us against them, our feds against theirs, that's what they want us to visualize

no proof the muslims did 9-11 either
To you there is nothing that can proved except some wacky conspiracy theory held together by a bunch of UN related facts
 
It's like passing a law to make mass murder legal and calling it the Jesus Christ Act.

Warren is no longer to be trusted at all. Thanks for the easy spot, Liz.
 
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What's even more tragic is how this legislation passing barely gets debated here, or even noticed. This will be a monumental piece of our future.
 
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In case it isn't obvious, let me point out 2 things...

Democrats, YOUR PRESIDENT joined together with mainly Republicans to pass this anti-liberty piece of shit.

Republicans, YOUR ELECTED REPS joined together will Obama and some Democrats to pass this anti-liberty piece of shit.

One more thing. These same assholes are pushing the TPP. Which is even worse!
Well, Joni voted against it, so there's that.
 
In case it isn't obvious, let me point out 2 things...

Democrats, YOUR PRESIDENT joined together with mainly Republicans to pass this anti-liberty piece of shit.

Republicans, YOUR ELECTED REPS joined together will Obama and some Democrats to pass this anti-liberty piece of shit.

One more thing. These same assholes are pushing the TPP. Which is even worse!

YAY! They're finally working together!
 

Thank you lunchbox50! That was very informative, and it really came together in the last 7 minutes or so.
 
LOL. The clarion call of HROT (especially WWJD, the effen hypocrite) "Why can't the two parties work together more!!! That's what the American people want!"

I'm the one on HROT getting raped for saying - I WANT GRIDLOCK!! The more these mofos do nothing THE BETTER!!! Seriously, every time bipartisanship "solves" one problem, they create two new ones in the bargain.
Thanks for yet another personal attack that gets my position entirely wrong.

I guess when you can't argue like an adult, that's all you have left.
 
It's like passing a law to make mass murder legal and calling it the Jesus Christ Act.

Warren is no longer to be trusted at all. Thanks for the easy spot, Liz.
Agreed. What a disappointment that she supported this legislation.
 
I feel really bad about Warren. My uber-liberal feminist friend was much more disappointed than me. Sanders is her guy now.

I'm going to follow Rand closely and maybe ask his office a few direct questions for his stance and go from there..
 
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I have always failed to see or feel the ire over this legislation. Other than OiT, does anyone think "the government" is out to get them? I welcome the government to read my e-mails.........Gawd knows why they would want to, but they are welcome to it.
I'm thinking if they feel the need to access my e-mail to nab n'erdowells, so be it. I don't engage in illegal activities. Do you?
As long as the process is overseen, I cannot be offended.
 
I have always failed to see or feel the ire over this legislation. Other than OiT, does anyone think "the government" is out to get them? I welcome the government to read my e-mails.........Gawd knows why they would want to, but they are welcome to it.
I'm thinking if they feel the need to access my e-mail to nab n'erdowells, so be it. I don't engage in illegal activities. Do you?
As long as the process is overseen, I cannot be offended.

Arguing That You Don’t Care About The Right To Privacy Because You Have Nothing To Hide Is No Different Than Saying You Don’t Care About Free Speech Because You Have Nothing To Say
 
Arguing That You Don’t Care About The Right To Privacy Because You Have Nothing To Hide Is No Different Than Saying You Don’t Care About Free Speech Because You Have Nothing To Say
In this day and age, one has NO guarantee of privacy any more. Free speech is a guaranteed right....but it has NEVER been protected if your are threatening the government or others. You can talk it, but their are consequences. If I am engaged in illegal activities, why should I be able to use "free speech" as a defense if I am discovered?
The right to privacy exists in my house as long as I draw the blinds and don't break the law. "We the people" have no right to interfere in this case. "We the people" have to meet legal standards to have me arrested. It has nothing to do with my "freedom of speech." If I am stupid enough to write something or say something that might get me arrested, shame on me. Don't use my right of "free speech" to cover your stupidity.
 
I have always failed to see or feel the ire over this legislation. Other than OiT, does anyone think "the government" is out to get them? I welcome the government to read my e-mails.........Gawd knows why they would want to, but they are welcome to it.
I'm thinking if they feel the need to access my e-mail to nab n'erdowells, so be it. I don't engage in illegal activities. Do you?
As long as the process is overseen, I cannot be offended.
Ummm... please stop participating in political threads. Don't ever vote again either.
 
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To you there is nothing that can proved except some wacky conspiracy theory held together by a bunch of UN related facts

It isn't just misery that loves company. Conspiracy loons luv company and OiT has lots of it on this board.
 
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