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Pro football is also voluntary. Does that make them victims too? Many schools do pay grad students for their work but let’s not confuse the issue. I asked what people disagree with the article about. The schools are making millions off poorly compensated kids. You still haven’t refuted that point.
Of course there isn’t. The GOP hired Steele to investigate Trump’s background and then when he won the nomination Clinton then hired the continuation of the the background check. People act like this is something new. It happens in every election for EVERY CANDIDATE. The difference being that candidates in the past aren’t in bed with foreign adversaries like Trump is.
What is truly amazing, is how people are warped of the truth. It is downright scary. Thank you Rupert Murdoch
Not only for the future of our children, but the future of America....
With the Trump economy shrinking at 32.9%, and China & India increasing, we will no longer be the leaders of the world within 6 months...
Think about that.
It is uber frustrating that soo many do not understand basic macroeconomics.... F me!
Not only for the future of our children, but the future of America....
With the Trump economy shrinking at 32.9%, and China & India increasing, we will no longer be the leaders of the world within 6 months...
Think about that.
It is uber frustrating that soo many do not understand basic macroeconomics.... F me!
Sorry Kurt, but you are an Uber dumbass. Wow. The ignorance is unfortunate, and blinding..
The average student debt, from a major university, when paying their own way is close to 6 figures. $$$, $$$. B1G football players do not have this burden upon graduating. But yeah, poorly compensated.
I don't believe the kids are poorly compensated, but do agree the coaches are paid too much. They don't have to accept a scholarship to play. It is expensive to go to college, especially when you get free medium rare steaks and are forced to eat it despite it making you sick.
The part about pro football is so off point it can be ignored.
Reading through this is disgusting. How can one man make you look so pathetic? Seriously, you act like he took your wife, kids, and house. GTFU and just accept it already, you lefties have proven to be so committed to being pieces of sh*t. Every single day you wake up and let this man run your life, every single day the news runs negative stories, it is exhausting for me to even listen too. I honestly don't care if Biden wins so I can have 4 quiet years from you freaks.
They are poorly compensated. When you have defensive and offensive coordinators making $2M/year, head coaches making over $5M and universities pulling in tens if not hundreds of millions, it’s not that hard to see the kids are getting the raw deal in the grand scheme of things.
Unfortunately It won’t matter if Biden wins - have you ever met a liberal that is happy?
Yes, I'm all broken up. I'm not sure how I can get through the week. FYI, 'Marxist' was the MAGA word of the month in July. For August it's 'indoctrination'. The more you know.
Please cite his violation of the Constitution. He was impeached because they hate him and not because of a violation.
What’s to refute? Schools make money and provide amateur level entertainment to students and fans. By letting people watch amateur players play football, they fund a host of other competitive sports and activities on campus...and they provide 10’s of thousands of kids with free tuition. Sounds good to me.
How poorly compensated are the players that receive a college tuition, room, & board that never play a down? Do tell.
Of course you didn't intentionally leave out China, the Ukraine, and Iran? Because that bed has been occupied more times than a $50 hooker and is really wanting its old partners back!
You can call it amateur all you like, but it's really a multi-million dollar industry where the kids are required to train/practice year round.
You understand that besides the free tuition and all of the advantages that comes with that for athletes, they also get actual cash/stipend for expenses? Have you actually seen what is available for them? At some point stop blaming colleges for this situation. Football funds a multitude of other sports. At any time the NFL could start its own developmental league. It chooses not to. If you think 50K plus per year and no debt for someone in college is nothing, then God bless you!
I never said they weren't compensated. I said they are compensated poorly when you consider how much money is being generated. If people weren't getting rich off the game, I would be fine with status quo, but we know people are getting rich off the game.
There is definitely an imbalance. Capitalism created it, with the coaches salaries spiraling out of control. But how to fix it is incredibly complex. One thing is for certain, there will certainly be a lot of unhappy people. No matter the outcome.
Universities have created and funded football, and other sports for over 100 years. They would technically be the owners, I guess... If they do it wrong, it could spiral out of control and F up everything. That is my fear.
Another negative effect of all this, will be the loss of dozens of other collegiate sports. All on something that universities have created over the last 100 years, football.
Again, there is absolutely no way to make everyone happy.
Universities have created and funded football, and other sports for over 100 years. They would technically be the owners, I guess... If they do it wrong, it could spiral out of control and F up everything. That is my fear.
Another negative effect of all this, will be the loss of dozens of other collegiate sports. All on something that universities have created over the last 100 years, football.
Again, there is absolutely no way to make everyone happy.
I agree and I don't have a solution. It's really a complex issue, as you stated.
Other than head coaches and certain coordinators, just what "people" are getting rich? And before you condemn the fact that these coaches are getting "rich", remember they are hired to be fired and are the leaders of what drives the economy for most college towns. And so f'n what that a few people make money. It's their career and they have paid their dues.
You mean they have to do work to earn their tuition, room and board? That’s outrageous.
Yep say goodbye to women's athletics.
Really going to miss the rowing and lacrosse team despite no high schools in Iowa even having one lacrosse team. (sarcasm)
If you want to know where all the bloat from college sports go, look at women's sports budgets. Ironic that liberals will be responsible for destroying women's meal tickets.
Rowing has a rich donor (See their facility).
Lacrosse is a badass sport! Have you watched it? I seriously wish we had it when I was in high school!
Several teams in the Des Moines metro practice it at just one facility in Johnston. Dowling, Ankeny & Waukee have clubs that practice there. Ironically, Johnston's teams do not. They practice elsewhere. But there are plenty of facilities in the metro to accommodate winter practices.
Lacrosse is a fun sport. It is a mixture of football, soccer and hockey. But more constant movement than football. And much more excitement than soccer or hockey....
Speaking of hockey, I suppose this throws out the door the possibility of The University of Iowa getting scholarship hockey team at the Coralville facility??
That would have rocked! Love going to hockey games.
Dammit
Lacrosse is a badass sport! Have you watched it? I seriously wish we had it when I was in high school!
Several teams in the Des Moines metro practice it at just one facility in Johnston. Dowling, Ankeny & Waukee have clubs that practice there. Ironically, Johnston's teams do not. They practice elsewhere. But there are plenty of facilities in the metro to accommodate winter practices.
Lacrosse is a fun sport. It is a mixture of football, soccer and hockey. But more constant movement than football. And much more excitement than soccer or hockey....
Speaking of hockey, I suppose this throws out the door the possibility of The University of Iowa getting scholarship hockey team at the Coralville facility??
That would have rocked! Love going to hockey games.
Dammit
95%? That is pure bullshit. You right wing nuts spend all day calling these mainstream publications “made up” but of course you don’t even look at them. The Post and Times publish largely left-leaning editorials. They may produce click baity headlines. But they are not making up the news. As usual “fake news” never carries a shred of evidence.
It is a sign of the defeated to dismiss without rebuttal. Such an embarassingly weak retort, it's comical. Pray tell, how do women's sports carry on without football and men's basketball footing their bills?
College football’s first mistake was granting “scholarships” for athletic ability. College’s job is to educate not job train. Division 3 has the right idea. Not that it cannot be abused...but that is more a human being thing.
College sports currently do take advantage of the economically deprived. In my musings however, I am becoming more and more convinced there has to be a cleaner more efficient program that should be used and does not involve education.
However, I have never met an educator who doesn’t believe they can do anything better...and alas, this includes athletics. (However, I believe college’s “ believe this” because of the tremendous monies involved in it...and college’s, like any other business, like their money.)
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