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'Furious' Peyton Manning denies Al Jazeera report of HGH use

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Denver Broncos quarterback Peyton Manning launched a swift and furious campaign to deny a report from Al Jazeera that he had received shipments of human growth hormone in 2011, when he was recovering from a series of neck surgeries.

Manning, first in a statement released Saturday night and then in a seven-minute interview with ESPN on Sunday morning, claimed the story was a “complete fabrication” and said it made him “angry,” “furious” and “disgusted.” Manning also hired PR guru and former White House press secretary Ari Fleischer to help manage the fallout.

The report, released Sunday, claimed that Manning had shipments of HGH sent to his wife, Ashley. Charlie Sly, a former employee of the Guyer Institute, an Indianapolis anti-aging clinic, was secretly filmed making the allegations by former British track athlete Liam Collins.

“All the time we would be sending Ashley Manning drugs,” Sly is seen saying in the video. “Like growth hormone, all the time, everywhere, Florida. And it would never be under Peyton’s name, it would always be under her name.”


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Sly later recanted his statements, both to Al Jazeera and later to ESPN. He told ESPN’s Chris Mortensen that he was an intern, not a pharmacist, at the clinic in 2013, and that he did not work there in 2011.

Still, the Al Jazeera report is a significant blow to the reputation of one of the NFL’s most respected players. Manning has won five MVP awards, including one in 2013 with the Broncos, two years after the neck surgeries forced him to miss the entire 2011 season and contributed to his release from the Indianapolis Colts.

Manning, 39, signed a five-year, $96 million contract with the Broncos in 2012, and his rapid ascension back to MVP level — he broke NFL single-season records for passing yards and touchdowns in leading the Broncos to the AFC championship in 2013 — only enhanced his legacy as one of the best quarterbacks in league history.

An allegation that he cheated in order to get healthy could tarnish that.

As part of his wave of denials, Manning on Sunday morning admitted that he was a patient at the Guyer Institute in 2011 but strongly denied ever using HGH.

“Absolutely not. Absolutely not,” he told ESPN.


http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/broncos/2015/12/26/peyton-manning-hgh-report/77936124/
He said he received 35 days of treatments in a hyperbaric chamber at the clinic and also received IV nutrient therapy there, all under the supervision of doctors from the Colts. He said he had never met Sly, or even heard of him, before the Al Jazeera report.

“It stings me that whoever this guy is is insinuating that I cut corners, that I broke NFL rules in order to get healthy,” Manning said.

As part of the 2011 collective bargaining agreement, the NFL and the NFL Players Association agreed to test for the banned substance HGH, though the sides did not agree on testing protocols until 2014. No players have tested positive since testing began last year.

Manning could not have been tested for the drug in 2011, when he was alleged to have received the drug from the clinic.

The Al Jazeera report hinges on allegations that shipments of HGH were sent to Ashley Manning as a way to shield the quarterback from suspicion.

Manning, in his interview with ESPN, said his wife was also a patient at the Guyer Institute, but said their treatments were unrelated. He did not specify why she visited the clinic. He said he never shared any medication with her.

The couple’s twins, a boy and girl, were born in the spring of 2011.

“It makes me sick that it brings Ashley into it, her medical history, her medical privacy being violated,” Manning said.

Dr. Dale Guyer, of the Guyer Institute, issued a statement to The Denver Post on Sunday in which he called Sly a liar. He said Sly was an unpaid intern for three months in 2013 and was never involved in Manning’s treatment.

“I have no reason to believe these allegations are based in fact or have any truth. In fact, I can say with absolutely certainty they are not,” Guyer said in his statement. “I find it extremely disturbing that the source of Al Jazeera’s story, a former unpaid intern named Charles Sly, would violate the privacy of Mrs. Manning’s medical records and be so callous and destructive as to purposely fabricate and spread stories that are simply not true.

“I would emphasize that Mr. Sly was never an employee of the Guyer Institute and his brief three-month internship occurred in 2013 during which time Peyton was not even being treated or present in the office.”

Manning was not the only NFL player or professional athlete included in the report. It includes three Green Bay Packers (Mike Neal, Julius Peppers and Clay Matthews), Pittsburgh Steelers outside linebacker James Harrison, and baseball players Ryan Howard of the Philadelphia Phillies and Ryan Zimmerman of the Washington Nationals as players who received various drugs from Sly.

All three Packers players angrily denied the report after Sunday's loss to the Arizona Cardinals. Matthews offered a particularly pointed retort.

“It’s (expletive), to be completely honest with you. It’s 100% falsified, fabrication information," said Matthews. "I don’t know who this guy is. I couldn’t tell you what he looks like. I've never talked to him. I’ve never communicated with him. To bring my name up like that — which appears to be out of thin air — it’s (expletive), for lack of a better term.

"I’ve worked hard on my reputation. That’s all I have. For seven years, I’ve worked my (butt) off. For this guy to say those types of things, it’s not true. Especially for him to recant everything he said, too, I think it goes to show this source, as well. The truth will come out. I’m not worried about it. I carry myself a certain way, and that’s the right way."

William Burck, an attorney who represents both Howard and Zimmerman, issued the following statement on Sunday morning: "It’s inexcusable and irresponsible that Al Jazeera would provide a platform and broadcast outright lies about Mr. Howard and Mr. Zimmerman. The extraordinarily reckless claims made against our clients in this report are completely false and rely on a source who has already recanted his claims."

The NFL declined to comment on the report, though the league will likely conduct its own investigation into the allegations.

The Broncos on Sunday morning issued a statement in which the team strongly supported Manning.

“The Denver Broncos support him 100 percent. These are false claims made to Al Jazeera, and we don’t believe the report,” the team said. “Peyton is rightfully outraged by the allegations, which he emphatically denied to our organization and which have been publicly renounced by the source who initially provided them. Throughout his NFL career, particularly during his four seasons with the Broncos, Peyton has shown nothing but respect for the game. Our organization is confident Peyton does things the right way, and we do not find this story to be credible.”

The Colts, too, issued a statement in support of Manning on Sunday, calling the report a “crude attempt to besmirch Peyton’s reputation.”

“We are thoroughly familiar with Peyton's tireless work habits, his medical history, and, most importantly, his integrity. Peyton played the game in Indianapolis for 14 years the right way. He never took any shortcuts and it would be absurd to suggest he would have taken prohibited performance enhancing drugs,” the statement said.

Those statements, while using strong language, basically amount to both teams deferring to the judgment of the quarterback, while allowing Manning to issue his own strong denials.

“There are no shortcuts in the NFL. I’ve done it the long way, the hard way,” Manning said. “It’s defamation, and it ticks me off.”

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...urious-denies-al-jazeera-hgh-report/77945822/
 
Let’s back up this garbage truck. In 2011, we had a 36-year-old quarterback who could not grip a football properly. His triceps had withered, and his right arm had turned into a frail reed. He needed spinal fusion surgery, the insertion of a titanium plate in his neck, and that came on the heels of earlier neck operations.


Peyton Manning was trying desperately to get back into shape in hopes of returning to football, even though his neck and spine were in a state of disrepair. And the N.F.L., the players’ union and all of us fans were all right with that.

The shock is not that this fading star is reported in an investigative documentary by Al Jazeera to have obtained human growth hormone. He denies this, vehemently, angrily, and we’ll get to his protestations.


Rather the shock would be to discover that more than a few men in this morally compromised sport are completely clean. In the last two decades, the weight of N.F.L. linemen has jumped by 50, 60, 70 pounds, and men the size of linebackers play wide receiver. At the draft combine, teams weigh in players like so many steers and then chart their every improbable sprint, vertical jump and bench press.


Players are bigger, faster, heavier, which leads to more brain-dissolving concussions, heart attacks, and ligaments and joints stretched to the breaking point. Would you blame any of these battered men — a majority of whom can have their contracts ripped up after the first torn ligament — for popping a pill, slipping a syringe under the skin or lying back after a game and smoking a fat one? As a dope trafficker claimed in Al Jazeera’s documentary, one football player began using and saw his contract jump to $2 million per year, from $400,000.

“Football and doping kind of go hand in hand: big strong men who crush each other and recover from injury faster,” noted Roger A. Pielke Jr., a professor at the University of Colorado Boulder who studies sports drug testing and governance.

More broadly, Al Jazeera’s documentary underlines the globalization of sports doping. Fly to the Bahamas to meet ethically compromised doctors, then take a cross-country flight to meet a chemistry-loving naturopath and drive around Austin, Tex., with a pharmacist boasting of the players inflated through better doping.

As Renee Anne Shirley, former head of the Jamaican Anti-Doping Commission noted, the Bahamas connection opens a door to the Caribbean, which has seen many sprinters, hurdlers and jumpers implicated in drug-testing scandals.


In baseball, we assume progress. The biceps of home run hitters no longer bear resemblance to those of Captain America. This said, a former Major League Baseball investigator told Al Jazeera that one in five players is taking something.

M.L.B. responded that it cashiered this investigator. That claim might erode his credibility, or speak to his righteousness.

Drug taking in baseball varies wildly. Mets relief pitcher Jenrry Mejia was twice disqualified this season for using the steroid stanozolol, which in today’s high-tech doping world is the equivalent of driving a Khrushchev-era tank. The odds of getting blown up veer toward near certainty. The Mets nonetheless gave a new contract to Mejia, who must sit out 162 games, perhaps giving him time to update his regimen.

Let’s circle back to Manning. He looked at the ESPN cameras Sunday and denied all, emphatically, roundly.

“I think I rotated between being angry, furious,” he said. “Disgusted is really how I feel, sickened by it.

“What hurts me the most about this, whoever this guy is, this slapstick trying to insinuate that in 2011, when more than less I had a broken neck — I had four neck surgeries.” He added, “It stings me, whoever this guy is, to insinuate that I cut corners.”

Manning is likable and does earnest well. He is a great quarterback, an all-time great, and who wouldn’t want to believe him?

Nagging questions pop up like too-early flower stems. Pielke argues we need to revisit H.G.H., a protein that activates receptors that tells cells to turn on growth. Perhaps it could speed healing. A medical center is preparing long-term studies.

For now, however, legal use is tightly circumscribed.

On Sunday, Charles Sly, the man described by Al Jazeera as a doctor of pharmacy, claimed everything he said in the undercover films was a boast and a lie.


In Al Jazeera’s documentary he can be heard saying that Manning attended an anti-aging clinic in Indianapolis, known as the Guyer Institute of Molecular Medicine. Sly said Manning obtained H.G.H., which was prescribed and mailed to Manning in his wife’s name.

Manning said he went to Dr. Dale Guyer’s center only to use the hyperbaric chamber. Dr. Guyer released a denial of Sly’s claims, saying that Sly was not even working as an intern at the clinic at the time.

“I have no reason to believe these allegations are based in fact or have any truth,” the doctor said.

If Sly fabricated his 2011 service at the center, however, how did he know that Manning and his wife had been patients there?

Further, it’s not clear if Manning’s wife received H.G.H. Based on the required conditions, she would not appear to qualify.

Caveats should be piled in a heap here. Al Jazeera’s documentary breaks intriguing and suggestive ground and establishes that the doping world is umbilically attached, doctor to doctor. There is, however, no undercover video of Manning or Guyer.

And Sly and the other characters appear to be slippery sorts, sweaty salesmen in search of another mark.

Then again, Victor Conte of Balco and Anthony Bosch of Biogenesis did not resemble high elders in the American Medical Association. But they ran sophisticated operations, and their customers, who rarely tested positive, included some of the greatest athletes in the world.

That fact alone argues that football’s elders would be wise to spare us ritual denials and outrage for now. Let’s open this box a little wider.

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Al Jazeera just ruined any chance they had at being a trusted news source in America
 
Sly makes the statements/accusations, why? Later recants, why? I suspect there will be a lot of amateur and professional gumshoes digging into this one, especially given the number of athletes involved.

So far, what I've heard and read on what Payton said he he was going to do to "fight this", I don't recall hearing lawsuit or anything of the sort. I have heard he was going to throw and the ball might have a little more on it. Interesting that doing something legal hadn't come out in any of his statements. Could be playing it smart or ........

The sports world is littered with "Me think you doth protest too much" denials by many an athlete, sometimes for years, only later it's proven otherwise. Sometimes in the process taking down innocent bystanders and/or friends.
 
Sly makes the statements/accusations, why? Later recants, why? I suspect there will be a lot of amateur and professional gumshoes digging into this one, especially given the number of athletes involved.

So far, what I've heard and read on what Payton said he he was going to do to "fight this", I don't recall hearing lawsuit or anything of the sort. I have heard he was going to throw and the ball might have a little more on it. Interesting that doing something legal hadn't come out in any of his statements. Could be playing it smart or ........

The sports world is littered with "Me think you doth protest too much" denials by many an athlete, sometimes for years, only later it's proven otherwise. Sometimes in the process taking down innocent bystanders and/or friends.
The fact it's still be talked about, and not this dumba$$, but questioning whether Manning did anything, is definitely something he should protest
 
I'm starting this post taking Manning at his word with the assumption that he's innocent....because that's the only scenario where my point is relevant. If he's thinking about suing and he is innocent, he probably has to factor in whatever his wife's medical situation is if she really was getting HGH. The story said the Mannings had twins around the time the allegation is being made and I know some women take HGH to help with ovulation. I would think bringing a lawsuit would necessitate him acknowledging that his wife had it (assuming she did) and then, why she was taking it. They may or may not want to get into that, even if it's all above board.
 
I'm starting this post taking Manning at his word with the assumption that he's innocent....because that's the only scenario where my point is relevant. If he's thinking about suing and he is innocent, he probably has to factor in whatever his wife's medical situation is if she really was getting HGH. The story said the Mannings had twins around the time the allegation is being made and I know some women take HGH to help with ovulation. I would think bringing a lawsuit would necessitate him acknowledging that his wife had it (assuming she did) and then, why she was taking it. They may or may not want to get into that, even if it's all above board.

They could theoretically just sue over the obvious HIPAA violation.
 
I'm inclined to believe Peyton, just because he seems like a good dude. That being said, it wouldn't surprise me one bit to learn that he did use HGH to help with recovery. You know that PEDs in football are being abused by a great number of players, and the funny thing is nobody really seems to care. I know I don't, they should just lift the bans on this stuff and let the players make the decision to use or not. JMO.
 
Again, though, by taking that angle, you're then establishing Ashley's use of HGH as fact.

Not necessarily. . . Ashley was a patient at that clinic, that was revealed to the media. That in and of itself is illegal I believe. What she was there for and what prescriptions she received isn't of material importance.
 
Not necessarily. . . Ashley was a patient at that clinic, that was revealed to the media. That in and of itself is illegal I believe. What she was there for and what prescriptions she received isn't of material importance.

While that's true, it still doesn't speak to whether Peyton had access to the HGH. Frankly, his best defense would be if HGH was medically necessary for Ashley and they could demonstrate that and show what she received was prescribed in amounts in line with established treatment protocols.

But, with the accusations now being recanted, a lawsuit might not even be necessary.
 
Not necessarily. . . Ashley was a patient at that clinic, that was revealed to the media. That in and of itself is illegal I believe. What she was there for and what prescriptions she received isn't of material importance.

Couldn't we just tell that something got bigger on her just by looking at a pic?
 
Couldn't we just tell that something got bigger on her just by looking at a pic?

My guess is that if she was taking it, it was for pregnancy related issues.....so probably not, unless you're looking at the belly.
 
Threatening a lawsuit is easy. Winning one? That's another matter — especially if you're a celebrity.

Broncos quarterback Peyton Manning — who on Sunday in an interview with ESPN called allegations in an Al Jazeera report that he used human growth hormone "garbage" and "a complete joke" — told NFL writer Peter King that he "probably will" sue Al Jazeera for defamation of character.

Ari Fleischer, an adviser to Manning and a former White House press secretary, told The Denver Post on Saturday that his team would wait to view Al Jazeera's full documentarybefore deciding whether to sue.

Here's the challenge Manning faces if he proceeds with a defamation or slander suit: The burden of proof for public figures is greater in U.S. courts than it is for average citizens. Public figures have to prove in court "actual malice," meaning the allegations about Manning must have been not only false, but also Al Jazeera must be found to have intentionally made the claims knowing they were false.

There's also the issues of what can be brought up in court and how long it might take for the case to wind its way through the legal system, legal analyst Michael McCann told The Post: "The risks for Manning in bringing a case include that there would be pretrial discovery, so he'd have to share information he might not want to. Also, if Manning were to sue, litigation could take years and that is a deterrent."

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...suit-against-al-jazeera/ar-BBnZbaB?li=BBnba9I

So two things. . .

1. If true the burden of proof for slander if you are a celeb seems impossibly high because it's hard to know for certain that anything is false. Seems like you could make up any story or accusation about a celeb and publish it and not be liable because you don't KNOW that the story is false. I think Jennifer Lawrence is a serial killer. I have no evidence to support that but I can just write an article about it because I don't know for certain that Jennifer Lawrence hasn't killed multiple people.

2. Apparently Peyton Manning is taking advice from Ari Fleischer. The article says he's an advisor to the Manning's. . . is that like an official job title that he has? Does Peyton pay this guy a salary to advise him on stuff?
 
1. If true the burden of proof for slander if you are a celeb seems impossibly high because it's hard to know for certain that anything is false. Seems like you could make up any story or accusation about a celeb and publish it and not be liable because you don't KNOW that the story is false. I think Jennifer Lawrence is a serial killer. I have no evidence to support that but I can just write an article about it because I don't know for certain that Jennifer Lawrence hasn't killed multiple people.

Think about what the original AJ article actually said. There were allegations and "ties" to HGH shipments in his wife's name. If he sues AJ for defamation and his wife was actually taking HGH, then he has almost no ability to win the suit -- HGH was going to his house and there were inferences that he was taking it because he had access to it. It's tough with that set of facts to prove that AJ acted with malice on something they knew to be false.
 
I'm inclined to believe Peyton, just because he seems like a good dude. That being said, it wouldn't surprise me one bit to learn that he did use HGH to help with recovery. You know that PEDs in football are being abused by a great number of players, and the funny thing is nobody really seems to care. I know I don't, they should just lift the bans on this stuff and let the players make the decision to use or not. JMO.

The problem with this attitude is that any high school athlete who wants to be a professional athlete would have to start doing performance enhancing drugs achieve their goal.
 
Threatening a lawsuit is easy. Winning one? That's another matter — especially if you're a celebrity.

Broncos quarterback Peyton Manning — who on Sunday in an interview with ESPN called allegations in an Al Jazeera report that he used human growth hormone "garbage" and "a complete joke" — told NFL writer Peter King that he "probably will" sue Al Jazeera for defamation of character.

Ari Fleischer, an adviser to Manning and a former White House press secretary, told The Denver Post on Saturday that his team would wait to view Al Jazeera's full documentarybefore deciding whether to sue.

Here's the challenge Manning faces if he proceeds with a defamation or slander suit: The burden of proof for public figures is greater in U.S. courts than it is for average citizens. Public figures have to prove in court "actual malice," meaning the allegations about Manning must have been not only false, but also Al Jazeera must be found to have intentionally made the claims knowing they were false.

There's also the issues of what can be brought up in court and how long it might take for the case to wind its way through the legal system, legal analyst Michael McCann told The Post: "The risks for Manning in bringing a case include that there would be pretrial discovery, so he'd have to share information he might not want to. Also, if Manning were to sue, litigation could take years and that is a deterrent."

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...suit-against-al-jazeera/ar-BBnZbaB?li=BBnba9I

So two things. . .

1. If true the burden of proof for slander if you are a celeb seems impossibly high because it's hard to know for certain that anything is false. Seems like you could make up any story or accusation about a celeb and publish it and not be liable because you don't KNOW that the story is false. I think Jennifer Lawrence is a serial killer. I have no evidence to support that but I can just write an article about it because I don't know for certain that Jennifer Lawrence hasn't killed multiple people.

2. Apparently Peyton Manning is taking advice from Ari Fleischer. The article says he's an advisor to the Manning's. . . is that like an official job title that he has? Does Peyton pay this guy a salary to advise him on stuff?

He may not be able to successfully sue them in court, but just the threat of it will win him a settlement. Al Jazeera is struggling to find acceptance in the US market because they are a middle east news source. Dragging America's sweetheart through the mud won't win them any viewers. If it comes out that there was no evidence of doping I predict that Peyton gets a big check, signs a piece of paper, and never speaks about it again.
 
If it walks like a duck.....

IDK if Manning is guilty but his situation does make the idea of HGH use credible.

I'd personally be surprised if he follows through with legal action. That could open up a lot of things and its possible Manning isn't that squeaky clean he would want to go there. Even if he wins the cloud is there which could hurt his endorsements.

Easier to push for a retraction, mention the thought of litigation, and move on. That is the quietest route to go.
 
The fact it's still be talked about, and not this dumba$$, but questioning whether Manning did anything, is definitely something he should protest

I take it your view point is "yawn, nothing to see here, move one people"? If he were the only one named, and since the guy recanted, I would take a similar stance. However, there's much to take pause with here.

I've heard too many athletes through the years stand on the mountain top proclaiming their innocence in the use of PEDS, to take ANY athlete, including Manning, at their word. I'm more inclined to believe Payton since the accuser recanted, but then why does Payton keep on taking?
 
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They could theoretically just sue over the obvious HIPAA violation.

I don't see how there's any HIPAA violation. Who's the patient? What privacy was violated? Any treatment/drugs Sly mentioned that Payton received would not have been 'by the book', and 'off the record' thus no expectation of privacy.
 
I don't see how there's any HIPAA violation. Who's the patient? What privacy was violated? Any treatment/drugs Sly mentioned that Payton received would not have been 'by the book', and 'off the record' thus no expectation of privacy.

He's talking about Peyton's wife's treatment.
 
The guy didn't bring up his wife treatments or medications as if they were hers. He simply indicated prescriptions etc. in her name and going to him. I'm not sure how that's interpreted.

Even bringing up that there were prescriptions going to her is a HIPPA violation. Hell, I think that even mentioning that either one of them was a medical client is a HIPPA violation.
 
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Even bringing up that there were prescriptions going to her is a HIPPA violation. Hell, I think that even mentioning that either one of them was a medical client is a HIPPA violation.

Agreed HIPPA is pretty extensive, there is almost nothing you can talk to the media or other people about when it comes to a person's medical treatments, history, etc. Ashley Manning's HIPPA rights where clearly violated.
 
The guy didn't bring up his wife treatments or medications as if they were hers. He simply indicated prescriptions etc. in her name and going to him. I'm not sure how that's interpreted.

As others have said, even saying she's a patient is a HIPAA (2 As, one P....Health Insurance Portability & Accountability Act), but even beyond that, he said she was the one receiving the HGH. If she was taking HGH for a medical purpose under the care of a physician (could be pregnancy/fertility related), then he absolutely talked about her prescription meds and that's clearly covered....even if he was trying to infer that Peyton is a cheat.
 
Agreed HIPPA is pretty extensive, there is almost nothing you can talk to the media or other people about when it comes to a person's medical treatments, history, etc. Ashley Manning's HIPPA rights where clearly violated.


Who is Ashley Manning?

And it would seem there's some sort of HIPPA loophole for celebrities.
 
Who is Ashley Manning?

And it would seem there's some sort of HIPPA loophole for celebrities.

Not by the letter of the law. Back in 2011, 6 employees at Cedars-Sinai Hospital in the UCLA medical system were fired for leaking treatment information for Kim Kardashian. I'd also question whether Ashley Manning actually qualifies as a celebrity. She's no Miko Grimes.
 
Who is Ashley Manning?

And it would seem there's some sort of HIPPA loophole for celebrities.

Ashley Manning is the wife of Peyton Manning.

I would agree with hawkifann, Peyton Manning is obviously a celeb, but his wife and kids pretty much stay in the background and live their own private lives. They don't even appear in his commercials or anything. The closest thing she is to a celeb is she sometimes appears with her husband at some of his not for profit functions and she went with him to a formal dinner at the White House once.

Trying to fit her under a public person status in the courts would be a stretch.
 
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