Garza's second-half charging foul

[Hawkeye Marching Band]

The NU defender had one foot clearly within the restricted area when Luka was called for an offensive foul. Maybe I don't have a complete understanding of the rule, but it sure looked like the defensive player moved into the restricted area to impede Garza's path to the basket. If that was a foul, why wasn't it a blocking call against the defender?

 

[hawkeyeguy69]

Nebraska got away with a whole lot more foul calls their way! Or should we say non-calls... There were some serious muggings going on in Lincoln. Of course, had we made just 6-33 3pt shots we would have won. There is that

 

[iahawks10]

I do believe a player control foul can be called on the offensive player because a defender can still establish legal guarding position inside the restricted arc. A secondary defender can’t establish legal guarding position.

I could be wrong and can’t seem to find the NCAA rule book.

 

[baddog25]

Agree. that was a terrible call.

 

[Legend12]

I do believe a player control foul can be called on the offensive player because a defender can still establish legal guarding position inside the restricted arc. A secondary defender can’t establish legal guarding position.

I could be wrong and can’t seem to find the NCAA rule book.

Yeah, that was a pretty obvious foul and an easy call to make.

 

[Hawkeye Marching Band]

I do believe a player control foul can be called on the offensive player because a defender can still establish legal guarding position inside the restricted arc. A secondary defender can’t establish legal guarding position.

I could be wrong and can’t seem to find the NCAA rule book.

Ah, well that would make sense. The Northwestern player (Jones) was the primary defender in that situation.

 

[DodgerHawki]

Ah, well that would make sense. The Northwestern player (Jones) was the primary defender in that situation.

Yes the other poster is correct. A charge can still be called, and rightly was, for action on the primary defender. Most guys don't stand in there when Garza puts his shoulder right into guys to create space, the Northwestern guy did.

 

[kceasthawk]

Yes the other poster is correct. A charge can still be called, and rightly was, for action on the primary defender. Most guys don't stand in there when Garza puts his shoulder right into guys to create space, the Northwestern guy did.

Yes, and what got Luka in trouble is he was fired up and he REALLY drove his shoulder into the defender, The amount of aggression and the angle he took certainly made it an obvious call for the official. I would have called that a charge as well.

 

[HoustonREDHawk]

Luka will get called for some charges, and I am surprised there haven't been more. I have seen him doing more help defense on perimeter players recently, and that concerns me. We want Luka on the floor for at least 30 min. He is way too slow to guard a perimeter player, and often bumps them after shots when he is contesting perimeter shots. I thought Fran had tried to minimize the need for Luka to switch on smaller players or to close out on perimeter shooters.

 

[Douglas C. Neidermeyer]

The charge also sent a message to any would be defender. He was scoring at will shortly after that.

 

[DodgerHawki]

Luka will get called for some charges, and I am surprised there haven't been more. I have seen him doing more help defense on perimeter players recently, and that concerns me. We want Luka on the floor for at least 30 min. He is way too slow to guard a perimeter player, and often bumps them after shots when he is contesting perimeter shots. I thought Fran had tried to minimize the need for Luka to switch on smaller players or to close out on perimeter shooters.

Garza is very good at playing without fouling. He's been extremely good at not getting into foul trouble all year, basically the San Diego State game and last night are the only games of consequence.

 

[EpenesaEpenesa]

He jumped right into the guy. That was a foul on Garza. If he goes straight up to the basket, he probably gets fouled or lays it in

 

[ChiPackHawk]

The NU defender had one foot clearly within the restricted area when Luka was called for an offensive foul. Maybe I don't have a complete understanding of the rule, but it sure looked like the defensive player moved into the restricted area to impede Garza's path to the basket. If that was a foul, why wasn't it a blocking call against the defender?

I was at the game and had a perfect angle - Luca absolutely lunged into the NW player and initiated all contact. For a play like that I don't think the restricted area has any factor to a call.

 

[twindman]

He jumped right into the guy. That was a foul on Garza. If he goes straight up to the basket, he probably gets fouled or lays it in

I thought it looked like the defender had his feet planted well before Garza hit him, but he was still moving his body strongly toward Garza when the collision took place. Seems like maybe it could go either way.

 

[walleye hunter16]

Yes, and what got Luka in trouble is he was fired up and he REALLY drove his shoulder into the defender, The amount of aggression and the angle he took certainly made it an obvious call for the official. I would have called that a charge as well.

The refs called last nights game much " softer" than pretty much any other Iowa game this year.
Nebby would have had every player with 10 fouls in Lincoln.
How many times have defenders touched Weezy and CJF on a 3 pt shot like Luka got called for last night?
Thats why I get pissed with officiating. The rules of the game are different every night.

 

[AuroraHawk]

Yes, and what got Luka in trouble is he was fired up and he REALLY drove his shoulder into the defender, The amount of aggression and the angle he took certainly made it an obvious call for the official. I would have called that a charge as well.

This is definitely the right answer. I was at the game last night (benefit of an unintentional but well-timed business trip) and from my vantage point, it appeared that Garza aggressively initially contact. Wasn’t surprised that he was called for the foul.

 

[iahawks10]

That was a crap crew too, IMO. I’m almost positive it was Boroski, Old Man Eads, and Scrottero. Please correct me if it wasn’t those three, because I can’t recall a game where one of those three didn’t pull some crap.

 

[BBHawk]

Art. 7. A secondary defender cannot establish initial legal guarding position in
the restricted area for the purposes of drawing an offensive foul on a player who is
in control of the ball (i.e., dribbling or shooting) or who has released the ball for
a pass or try for goal. When illegal contact occurs within this restricted area, such
contact shall be called a blocking foul, unless the contact is flagrant. (Exception:
When the offensive player leads with a foot or unnatural extended knee or wards off
with the arm.)
This restriction shall not prohibit a defender, located within the restricted area,
from attempting to block a shot by: 1) establishing legal guarding position, 2)
jumping in the air
Source: https://www.ncaapublications.com/p-4586-2019-20-ncaa-mens-basketball-rules-and-interpretations.aspx

 

[herkhatescy]

Yes, and what got Luka in trouble is he was fired up and he REALLY drove his shoulder into the defender, The amount of aggression and the angle he took certainly made it an obvious call for the official. I would have called that a charge as well.

Defender was still sliding sideways should of been a blocking foul.

 

[bojihawk44]

Defender was still sliding sideways should of been a blocking foul.

It's not like the defender can't be moving in order to draw a charge.

 

[perryhawk]

He jumped right into the guy. That was a foul on Garza. If he goes straight up to the basket, he probably gets fouled or lays it in

I guess I thought that in the restricted area there was no charge unless it was flagrant.....that was hardly flagrant. He was going to the basket, which is what players do at that position on the court......I think it was a bad call.

 

[kceasthawk]

Defender was still sliding sideways should of been a blocking foul.

Except in this case Luka didn't just go up to score, he jumped AWAY from the basket directly into the defender. It was obvious that he was trying intentionally to draw the contact. I see plenty of crap calls against Iowa in games but this was not a bad call. The angle he chose made it so obvious that he was trying to initiate the hoop and the harm.....

 

[Pepperman]

The charge also sent a message to any would be defender. He was scoring at will shortly after that.

I thought he went to the bench for a while after that? I know he did score a lot when he came back though.

 

[HawkRugged17]

I thought he went to the bench for a while after that? I know he did score a lot when he came back though.

 

[The Deplorable Sleeping Dog]

Obviously I'm no big fan of the officials but at full speed and court level I'm thinking that looked like a lot of shoulder going into the defender.

The Nebraska atrocity was a different story altogether.