The measure of one's character is what they do when NO ONE is watching. I find it difficult to "turn it on and off" like a light switch.
Golf ruling, need a little help.
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He wasn’t in any sort of competition or playing for money. Who cares?
Thank you for the responses fellas. Sounds to me like play the drop and take the stroke penalty like I did would have worked 99% of the time. My other option would have been play a provisional from the tee (3) and then go look for my ball and if I found it I would have been hitting the normal 2.
At risk of nuking my thread: I did come up with this idea while playing. (Assuming it is agreed upon prior to the round.)
Don't play a mulligan but once a round if you miss a putt, move back 3 feet and reputt.. (kinda like a mulligan for putting)
Don't play a mulligan but once a round if you miss a putt, move back 3 feet and reputt.. (kinda like a mulligan for putting)
No one. But it is pretty easy to know the rules and play by them...If your playing golf, follow the rules....if its a swat-fest, who cares.....
I have a dirty secret. When I'm playing by myself, I don't EVER give myself a gimme and put the ball in the hole every time, but I leave the flag in..... don't judge me.
Happy medium?
If I’m by myself and I hit a tee shot, but can’t find it so I hit another ball, then I find my original one, I’m playing the original one. Don’t care what the rules say.
That said, if I hit my dropped ball onto the green and then find my original and duff it 30 yards, I keep playing the original. Not going to pick and choose my best ball.
You can putt with the flag in now. Pace if play rule.
I play by myself mostly and what ticks me off the most is lost balls that wouldn't be lost if playing with a group. Hit a shot today that I know from the feel was in the rough on the left side of the fairway. One of those where you catch the trajectory but loose it in a sky with bright white clouds. Ball like that would never be lost on Tour with cameras and spectators and probably not even with a foursome. But playing alone you can lose a lot of balls that are just in the rough. Frustrating.
100%. We have a really nice course here in DM (Waveland) that I refuse to play solo for this very reason. You can hit a great drive, in the fairway, and because of the slope of the hills it will roll and you will never find it. Atleast with group you have multiple people getting a line on it.
The key is whether it is known to be in a hazard or oob or simply lost. If it's known to be in a hazard you drop within 2 club lengths of where it crossed the margin. Otherwise it is stroke and distance. A provisional is used if you think a ball is lost, job it might be playable from a hazard.
If you want to score better it's best not to play fast and loose with the rules.
If you want to score better it's best not to play fast and loose with the rules.
When do local rules come into play? Because they changed the local rules for out of bounds and lost balls a couple years ago. You can choose to hit 4 from the fairway instead of 3 from your original shot.
Rules School: Hit one out of bounds? This new local rule can save you strokes (and time)
Blast your tee shot out of bounds? Rules School explains how to save a trip back to the tee box with this new local rule.
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A couple of notes - you can only play a provisional ball if you believe your ball is either out of bounds or lost outside of a hazard (i.e. you blow it out into some thick woods, overgrown brush, or something similar, that is not marked as a hazard. If you *think" you hit it into a lake or other marked hazard, you cannot play a provisional ball if you're playing strictly by the rules
As has been mentioned, you must declare that you're hitting a provisional; it should be stated as such, along with the reason for the provisional ("I'm hitting a provisional because the first one might be OB" or "I'm hitting a provisional because the first one is in the woods & I don't think I'll be able to find it."
If you hit the provisional for a potentially lost ball, and subsequently find that ball, the provisional is out & you MUST proceed with playing the first ball. If you find it deep in the woods, you CANNOT decide to go play the provisional, even if you've smoked it right down the middle. When the first ball is found, the provisional is gone. If the first one is unplayable, then you have to declare it as such and proceed under one of your options for an unplayable lie. Best way to explain it is like this...you're on a par 3 that has some heavy brush on one side of the green that is NOT marked as a hazard. You blow one into that crap; declare a provisional for a potentially lost ball, and knock the provisional in the hole. Do NOT go near that garbage looking for the first ball you hit; if you find it, IT is in play, and you'll have to go try to chop it out of the crap. If your opponent goes in looking for your ball, if he finds it you tell him "that's not mine."
As has been mentioned, you must declare that you're hitting a provisional; it should be stated as such, along with the reason for the provisional ("I'm hitting a provisional because the first one might be OB" or "I'm hitting a provisional because the first one is in the woods & I don't think I'll be able to find it."
If you hit the provisional for a potentially lost ball, and subsequently find that ball, the provisional is out & you MUST proceed with playing the first ball. If you find it deep in the woods, you CANNOT decide to go play the provisional, even if you've smoked it right down the middle. When the first ball is found, the provisional is gone. If the first one is unplayable, then you have to declare it as such and proceed under one of your options for an unplayable lie. Best way to explain it is like this...you're on a par 3 that has some heavy brush on one side of the green that is NOT marked as a hazard. You blow one into that crap; declare a provisional for a potentially lost ball, and knock the provisional in the hole. Do NOT go near that garbage looking for the first ball you hit; if you find it, IT is in play, and you'll have to go try to chop it out of the crap. If your opponent goes in looking for your ball, if he finds it you tell him "that's not mine."
When do local rules come into play? Because they changed the local rules for out of bounds and lost balls a couple years ago. You can choose to hit 4 from the fairway instead of 3 from your original shot.
Rules School: Hit one out of bounds? This new local rule can save you strokes (and time)
Blast your tee shot out of bounds? Rules School explains how to save a trip back to the tee box with this new local rule.
Honestly I'm not sure about that rules usage. I believe it it was simply a recommendation that courses adopt it for pace of play, but I haven't seen it posted anywhere or written on a scorecard yet. I think its really just out there for people that actually play the rules formally to avoid stoppages in play in a casual round, but you're still tracking it for your handicap.
I'm convinced that Bryson D would shoot bogey golf plus at the club I play at if he had to play it alone with no cameras, no spotters, and no gallery to find his errant tee shots like we have to do. My course eats golf balls. On almost every hole there are natural areas, water, woods, or OB on one or both sides of the fairway. He'd be hitting 3 off the tee every hole or he'd be taking a lot of penalties for lost balls with the way he sprays it.
I think it's going to be a tough track this summer. I noticed between Friday night and Sunday afternoon the rough had grown out to be nasty. I believe there will be many courses that try to save a few bucks on fuel by cutting back on frequency in mowing in the rough. I'm fine with that, just keep the greens and fairways in good shape.
I think it's going to be a tough track this summer. I noticed between Friday night and Sunday afternoon the rough had grown out to be nasty. I believe there will be many courses that try to save a few bucks on fuel by cutting back on frequency in mowing in the rough. I'm fine with that, just keep the greens and fairways in good shape.
Interesting thought.
Or have stands, crowds and other “stuff” as backstops!
When I played it was at a small town course where I drove my cart from my house to the course.
course was pretty much dead all the time. So when something bad happened I just quit and drove back to the first tee. The only time I played all nine holes was when I had a chance to get under 40.
quitting and starting over was my religion.
course was pretty much dead all the time. So when something bad happened I just quit and drove back to the first tee. The only time I played all nine holes was when I had a chance to get under 40.
quitting and starting over was my religion.
Ive no doubt your course is tough, but let’s be realistic with the bryson comments! He could probably hit 8iron off every tee and shoot under par lol you may be right that his pride would make him want to hit bombs tho
It’s an interesting question, though.
How often do you see pros pay a huge price for a wayward tee shot? You just don’t see woods and tangled messes of brush like you do at your local course.
You’re right, though, they’re so good they’d adapt and still shoot 66.
He thinks he can overpower Augusta by dropping bombs, he'd have no respect for my course.
Of course, I'm being a little dramatic here. Just wanting to emphasize how many hazards this course has. It's not like some of these small town Iowa tracks where you can slice it two fairways over and be able to find your ball and still have a shot at the green. You go left or right here and you're done.
It doesn’t make any difference what you do, unles you are “posting” the round for handicap or event purposes...but becoming familiar with “the rules” makes using them a lot easier. I once heard a USGA rules official say, “Golf is a damn simple game...you hit it, you find it you count it and hit it again. Golf gets quite complicated as soon as your hand touches the ball...all hell can break loose and usually does.”
Guaranteed. They’re playing on courses that are much longer than anything we play. 500yd par 4’s are now fairly standard. They have to hit drivers to have a chance to birdie, still having 175yds in. Standard courses we play they could hit irons off the tee and still have shorter 2nd shots typically.
I will say, my BIL played d1 college golf and i swear every time he hits a shot in the trees he A)finds his ball and B) has a shot. Idk if he’s that lucky or if it’s just because he’s that good. I guess when his balls go wayward they’re not slicing or hooking like crazy, they’re just pushed or pulled, giving him a better chance at knowing where it will be possibly? It’s really aggravating playing against him tho!
Yes....but do not forget to announce your second off the tee as a "Provisional" BEFORE hitting it....otherwise you have "abandonned" your original ball.......There was once an NCAA Tournament lost because of this breech of the rule.
No.....more like, "I am playing a provisional ball"....
"It gets super shitty down there, I'm going to whack a provisional just in case. Throw me another ball ya goat roper"
* the key being the word provisional.
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