Gonzaga to the B12?
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That will change their records a little bit going forward. Having finally play good teams' night in and night out.
Really? Football is the only thing that moves the needle financially. Why would adding a school with no football program be a good move for the little 12?
Look, you guys want to make everything about the money. That’s fine. Big Ten has the most money now. How many National championships is it getting us? The Big Ten West is beyond shit in football this year. Luckily the Big Ten has Michigan and Ohio State. Gonzaga is a top 10 basketball program over the last 20 years. I understand it doesn’t move the needle financially. It would make them an even tougher league in basketball. I’d rather watch an entertaining game then care about how much money my league is making.
Gonzaga is one of the best bball programs in the country. Joining the Big 12 would be a great addition! A great bball conference (especially when Cincy, Houston, and BYU join) would only get better! Not sure how good UCF is in bball.
Gonzaga at ISU would be a great college bball environment!
Hope it happens!
Gonzaga at ISU would be a great college bball environment!
Hope it happens!
It will be interesting to see if Gonzaga remains so dominant having to play a conference schedule that contains less cupcakes.
Frankly, without a Gonzaga football program, I would be surprised if this occurs.
Frankly, without a Gonzaga football program, I would be surprised if this occurs.
Well they won’t be as dominant in a top 2-3 conference. Of course not. But they would be a great addition on the bball side. It’s an ever changing landscape. I believe the Big 12 would take them for just basketball. PAC 12 already getting blasted for possibly letting this happen.
Notre Dame is in the ACC without their football program, so it's happened before... The Big12 would get a 'west coast footprint', Gonzaga would get better TV $ I assume.
That’s all fair. I still think making money the primary determinant of everything makes sense for the long run. As you point out, there has been surprisingly little correlation so far between money and wins, but I do think we are on the verge of that changing. As one example, I’ve seen it said on this board a bunch in the past year that Fran is quickly discovering that NIL drives the bus now with recruiting (and unfortunately we are so far way, way behind on that).
As for Gonzaga to the Big12, I don’t yet really know what to think about it. I would imagine it doesn’t move the needle at all financially so it’s more about just strength in numbers and the basic idea that nowadays conferences are either growing or dying and staying status quo is no longer an option for conferences. It’s eat or get eaten. I can see the logic of that I guess so from that perspective this can make sense, although there are also potential downsides to adding a small basketball-only school from the middle of nowhere. And as you point out, they are currently really good in basketball and there would be a bunch of fun games coming up that even I would be excited to see.
We make it about money? We? The people that broadcast the games and sell advertising make it about money. The B1G foot print has a shit ton of graduates and eyeballs that tune in to watch games. Money is going to drive everything. Why do you think Gonzaga wants to join the Big12? To win more? lmfao.
do you know why the Big12 wants Gonzaga to join? They think they can make more money in a media deal. that's it. they are chasing the big 2. Do you know why the B1G and SEC doesn't add Gonzaga? Because they won't make anymore money.
You know why Gonzaga would join the Big12? Money.
None of this has to do with winning.
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I’m not sure I agree with this take that this would be terrible for the Pac12 to lose out on Gonzaga. Do you think Washington would vote to allow Gonzaga to join? If UNI was a basketball power, I wouldn’t want them to join the Big10. Just like Ohio State doesn’t want Cincinnati and Penn State doesn’t want Pitt.
ESPN is pushing for this to happen. They still have a pretty good hold on the Big 12 media rights. Funny because every other day ESPN is running stories on how bad the UCLA and USC moves to the B1G are. ESPN is working overtime trying to get UCLA to pull back out of the B1G. Shows you how much these media deals mean in these big market areas.
Personally, I agree with you that it shouldn't be all about the $$, but thats just where we are. As far behind as the little 12 is falling I'd think they'd be trying to gain someone like Utah, BYU or Colorado, but as you said should be great for basketball. Basically the 12 and the ACC will be basketball leagues.....
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They won't go 18-0 or 17-1 or whatever their conference record is every year. And I think that's fine with Gonzaga. Fron the Zags standpoint, I get why they would want to join a larger conference. Few has made them very, very good and they could continue to be so where they are. But from Jan. 1 through end of conference play, they don't play anyone and no one pays attention to them unless St. Mary's happens to beat them on their home court in a game that starts at 9:30 p.m. Central.
If this happens, will be interesting to see if it breaks Kansas' strangle-hold on Big 12 titles.
Yeah, the Notre Dame arrangement with the ACC isn’t a great comparison for having Gonzaga join the Big12. Notre Dame is obviously much more valuable, they play 5 football games, and really it’s all part of the ACC’s attempt to someday try to get them to be full conference members.
Zags will still be a top BB program, at least under their current coach, but will pick up more losses.
I haven't followed this, but is the B1G going to add a couple more teams, maybe also from the west coast? 16 is a nice number, but that would be even more travel for Iowa, if it would be in a western division. Forming subdivisions of four teams that rotated playing the other three subdivisions could be an interesting approach.
I haven't followed this, but is the B1G going to add a couple more teams, maybe also from the west coast? 16 is a nice number, but that would be even more travel for Iowa, if it would be in a western division. Forming subdivisions of four teams that rotated playing the other three subdivisions could be an interesting approach.
Well, they do play four ACC teams this season that I don't remember being on their regular schedule.
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