I wish Gonzaga played in a real league just to see how good they'd be over the course of a season. Sucks having to watch them play DIII teams.
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They had a solid non conference schedule. They could have just stopped after that though. I want to see how a Michigan does against them.
Agree, the west coast league is garbage
reminds me of Boise state’s football run before they joined the the MWC
reminds me of Boise state’s football run before they joined the the MWC
Dan Shulman made the same comment about the Zags that many say about the Hawks. He said that if you double/triple Timme, then that leaves Kispert, Suggs, and others being a threat from outside. "So many weapons", he said.
We made 3 3's against them, think about that, 3, and lost by 12.
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Yeah- did y’all watch the game we played against them? I get calling out small conference teams if they don’t play anyone but they played us, a supposed top 5 BIG team and it wasn’t competitive
It was but wasn't, they couldn't miss, we couldn't make our 3's and still hung around to the end.
I'm not calling them out. I'm saying it sucks that we don't get to see them play Illinois, Michigan, Ohio State, etc., or in another conference against their best teams all year long. It sucks to only see them play good teams in November, December, and March.
Now, lets see how they do playing against top 25 teams every wk, getting battered and bruised. R they a dam good team? Absolutely no question. Do they go undefeated in the BIG? Not a chance.
I must have watched a different game than most of you. Iowa was down between 12-18 points from the 4 min mark of the first half, and never really felt they were going to make a run of any type.
They "hung around" 2ish minutes to go had a chance to cut to 6 or so and didn't. Point is they sucked at 3s and fts and were always on the edge of challenging. The Zags nailed everything and were very impressive.
The WCC is down this year, but they've had some good teams in recent years. Both St. Mary's and BYU have beaten Gonzaga and played in the NCAA tournament.
They wouldn't go undefeated in the regular season like they will this year. But they would be right there at the very least challenging to win the Big 10, Big 12, SEC or ACC. And they would probably be the favorite in any of the P5 leagues this year. I do think it hurts them not playing anyone worth a darn for 2 months before going into the tournament. There is no way they are improving as much as some other teams playing against lesser competition. They are certainly very good.
I think they'd be first or second in every league in the country. They're awesome. I'd just love to see them play a big conference schedule because it would be fun to see them playing good teams all year long. They're like Iowa, they're fun to watch.
I agree with this. They’re legit good and would be in the mix in any league. Where people lose me is when they talk about Gonzaga being historically great. Maybe they are, but them going undefeated in that conference doesn’t approach what MIchigan and OSU are doing in the B1G. They just won’t have stretches during the bulk of the season where they’re playing ranked teams in 3 out of 4 games multiple times.
I have no doubt Gonzaga would be fighting it out at the top of the B1G, but I don’t think there’s any chance they’d go 20-0.
Historically great isn't possible any more with all the players leaving early for the NBA. A historically great team would be Duke or Kentucky this year if none of their players over the last four years went pro early.
I was going to say this. St. Mary's is horrrrrible this year. They are usually a lock for the tournament and jumping in and out of the top 25. BYU seems to be fools gold but not terrible. Don't forget Matt "watch me flip my hair all game" Haarms transferred there from Purdue. San Francisco was supposed to be better this year but I haven't watched them.
As someone else mentioned, Gonzaga loaded their non-conference. They are the real deal and smoked a lot of good teams... including us.
You might be surprised at the toll the physical beating they would face in this league would have on them over the course of the season.
JFC your commentary on sports ball is consistently terrible.
It's true that Gonzaga probably wouldn't have an undefeated regular season if they played in one of the big conferences....but they are still the best team in the country and would probably finish first in whatever conference they played in.
I don't know why people complain about the records of good teams in small conferences every season. Great teams from small conferences going toe-to-toe with the big boys in the Big Dance is what college basketball is all about. And when teams like Gonzaga, Butler, Loyola, Wichita St,, George Mason, Virginia Commonwealth, etc. make Final Four runs, I think it's awesome.
I don't know why people complain about the records of good teams in small conferences every season. Great teams from small conferences going toe-to-toe with the big boys in the Big Dance is what college basketball is all about. And when teams like Gonzaga, Butler, Loyola, Wichita St,, George Mason, Virginia Commonwealth, etc. make Final Four runs, I think it's awesome.
Iowa was down 22 points in 1st half? That is a stomping and then foul trouble on Gonzaga and Suggs cooling off almost made it a game, but not really. Yes, the 3pt shooting by Iowa was outlier. Getting Timme and Kispert into
foul trouble might not happen again. Suggs at 6'4 and NBA athlete and the other guard Ayayi at 6'5 that got 18 rebounds...those two guys are tall and athletic and gave our shooters Fredrick/JBO fits and torched the zone defense. Iowa can beat Gonzaga but I don't think the 1st game was as close as the score suggests. I do think Nunge being available and development of Keegan and even PMAC to some extent makes Iowa a better team now than they were when 1st game happened.
Iowa was down 22 points in 1st half? That is a stomping and then foul trouble on Gonzaga and Suggs cooling off almost made it a game, but not really. Yes, the 3pt shooting by Iowa was outlier. Getting Timme and Kispert into
foul trouble might not happen again. Suggs at 6'4 and NBA athlete and the other guard Ayayi at 6'5 that got 18 rebounds...those two guys are tall and athletic and gave our shooters Fredrick/JBO fits and torched the zone defense. Iowa can beat Gonzaga but I don't think the 1st game was as close as the score suggests. I do think Nunge being available and development of Keegan and even PMAC to some extent makes Iowa a better team now than they were when 1st game happened.
Correct on both counts. Yes, Iowa can play much better. But no, the first game wasn't all that competitive. Every time Iowa kind of got into the hint of the game, Gonzaga would score a couple of times in a row and open it back up. Gonzaga is really, really good. They won't lose if Suggs is making 3's like that. He has 23 total 3's on the year, and he made 7 of them against Iowa. If Iowa were to play Gonzaga, they would need Gonzaga to not play its best game and for someone on Iowa other than Garza to just go off. The good news is if Iowa plays Gonzaga again, it probably means Iowa made it to at least the Sweet 16.
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You don’t think that Gonzaga maybe had something to do with missing those threes?
I recall a game as others have where after a few minutes the lead was over 20 and by half time it was clear we were just playing for the final score
Gonzaga and Baylor are the real deal and would probably be the favorites to win any P5 league.
Teams like Villanova, Houston, and Alabama fatten up on weak intraconference competition and might lose 8-10 games in the B1G.
Teams like Villanova, Houston, and Alabama fatten up on weak intraconference competition and might lose 8-10 games in the B1G.
They would win the Big 10 this year hands down. Would they lose a couple games? Most likely but they would be the best team in our conference.
I don’t think I’d be surprised, it’s a grind. I just think Timme, Rispert and Suggs are legit talents who could take the grind as much as any of the other B1G stars.
The biggest difference is that Gonzaga can play a B or C game and still win in the WCC. Not only won’t you beat the top teams in the B1G with a C game most of the time, that C game could easily get you an “L” against Rutgers or Penn State or at Minnesota. If Gonzaga was playing in the B1G this year and had played all their games, I think they’d have 3-4 losses at this point just because of the grind. If Michigan had never had an interruption, I think they’d be at 3 losses right now.
I don’t think anyone in the country is arguing they would go undefeated in the Big 10 or Big 12, which are the 2 best leagues. That doesn’t mean they aren’t the best team in College basketball. Would still have really liked to watch them play Baylor. They have 3-4 NBA players and 1 of them is a top 5 pick. Does anyone remember the last time we played the Zags in the tournament? It was not pretty. They have a helluva team.
There is very little chance they would have this type of season in the Big Ten. They are obviously good but let's be real about the grind of a major conference schedule. Which team in their conference is rated low at the beginning of the season like and Illinois or Ohio State and ends up earning top ten or top 5 national rankings? Indiana is supposedly bad losses for us but the truth is they could beat Gonzaga if they were having a good night. Wisconsin can beat most teams on a good night even in a season like this one. We beat them bad last night but I doubt anyone had them circled ad an easy win and I doubt anyone is counting on that when they come to Iowa City. Who on Gonzaga schedule can do that to them that isn't a nonconference game? Truthfully those nonconference games are fun and maybe mean something for rankings especially for Gonzaga. They don't mean much otherwise. Let them play against top teams twice in a season multiple times and see how they hold up. It won't be with a 1 seed at then end if the year.
Well David have you looked at their tournament results? Impressive for sure in some of those years but they aren't Duke now are they? They aren't Michigan State. Or North Carolina. Or Knetucky
What makes you think that they would become those teams in any of the power conferences? If they played in one of the major conferences those true blue blood programs weren't simply going to step to the side. Truth is Gonzaga has been overseeded in many of the NCAA tournaments over the years. They are a fun cinderella story but they get the benefit of being a really great team in a really weak conference where no one punches them in the mouth as would happen in one of the power conferences.
What makes you think that they would become those teams in any of the power conferences? If they played in one of the major conferences those true blue blood programs weren't simply going to step to the side. Truth is Gonzaga has been overseeded in many of the NCAA tournaments over the years. They are a fun cinderella story but they get the benefit of being a really great team in a really weak conference where no one punches them in the mouth as would happen in one of the power conferences.
With their offense and IU’s piss poor offense they would dominate them. As well as Wisconsin. Be realistic.
They did everything they could to ramp up non conference schedule
really too bad the Baylor game didn’t happen
really too bad the Baylor game didn’t happen
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