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Good KF Teams have great special team; Our Punting & Punt Returning killing us

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Like many of you, I thought Matt VandeBerg catching punts was gong to be an upgrade. Well, as you know from the Wisconsin game, he made a horrible mistake that cost us big time.

From HawkCentral:

Punting is losing for Iowa

We know the offense stunk Saturday. And as 247 Wisconsin rushing yards would attest, the Iowa defense was not without fault.

But that defense continued to give Iowa chances at momentum, with Jackson’s forced fumble of Jonathan Taylor (and a Rugamba recovery) giving the Hawkeyes the ball at their own 49 and trailing just 10-7 late in the first half.

From that moment forward, Iowa’s offense had two possessions and its defense gave up three yards on three plays. Yet Wisconsin still flipped field position 24 yards in its favor thanks to poor Hawkeye special teams. What happened?

Bad punt: After a three-and-out (shock), Colten Rastetter hit a terrible 21-yard punt that was downed at Wisconsin’s 27. Iowa needed a high kick to pin the Badgers at their own 10, at least.

Bad judgment: After Brady Reiff’s sack, Wisconsin was punting from its own 30. Return man Matt VandeBerg stood at his own 26, on the left hash. Anthony Lotti’s kick went that direction, yet VandeBerg for some reason couldn’t get to the ball that landed at the 32 — and rolled an additional 24 yards to the Iowa 8. What should’ve been a 38-yard punt was 62.

Bad situation: After Stanley was sacked, Rastetter had to punt from the back of his end zone. With the snap coming from the 1, Iowa understandably went into maximum protection. Rastetter’s punt traveled 45 yards, but with no gunners downfield, Wisconsin’s Nick Nelson whizzed past late-arriving tacklers to Iowa’s 26.

Three plays after that three-punt sequence, Wisconsin scored to take a 17-7 lead into halftime.

Bottom line: Two Iowa punts netted 47 yards while one Wisconsin punt netted 62.

That trade-off can’t happen, and — much like Iowa’s performance Saturday — there’s plenty of blame to go around.


LINK: http://www.hawkcentral.com/story/sp...consin-loss-noah-fant-nate-stanley/857643001/
 
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True story ... we're a team reliant on winning the field-position battle. Despite the D fighting valiantly ... they were forced to defend too many short fields. Part of that was due to self-inflicted wounds ... the bad snap and Stanley's mystery dropped ball. However, the rest of it was exactly due to poor punting and a poor punt return game.
 
Thank god we brought in that special teams "consultant" this year. That is, unless he is only responsible for two special teams areas - kickoff coverage and field goals.
 
True story ... we're a team reliant on winning the field-position battle. Despite the D fighting valiantly ... they were forced to defend too many short fields. Part of that was due to self-inflicted wounds ... the bad snap and Stanley's mystery dropped ball. However, the rest of it was exactly due to poor punting and a poor punt return game.
you can just blame special teams for bad field position(although I agree, they're not anywhere near what I would have expected for an iowa team)
when you're getting 1 first down a quarter, you're gonna get screwed
 
The fielding is the worst part to me because they have put the offense in really bad field position over and over this year. No matter who has been back there it is has been bad. KR hasn't been good either.
 
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you can just blame special teams for bad field position(although I agree, they're not anywhere near what I would have expected for an iowa team)
when you're getting 1 first down a quarter, you're gonna get screwed

Granted, the D played great and the offense and special teams were horrific.

And the 80,000 in attendance smelled blood, got louder, and what Ohio State experienced in Kinnick, Iowa experienced at Camp Randall
 
And that’s how the 63-year-old ended up joining Kirk Ferentz’s staff this summer as a quality control assistant on special teams.

http://www.hawkcentral.com/story/sp...teams-guru-comes-aid-iowa-hawkeyes/580923001/


Yupp this guy needs to be shown the door asap. I don't care if somebody somewhere said he is a guru. This is the worst our team has looked and they brought in a guy to work specifically with them. Fire him and get us a guy who does nothing but watch videos and recruit. You cannot justify paying this man when we have a body of work to show this wasn't a major area of concern and now we have troubles with it. Getting a higher level athlete into the program has always been a point of emphasis.
 
Thank god we brought in that special teams "consultant" this year. That is, unless he is only responsible for two special teams areas - kickoff coverage and field goals.
Getting a new consultant doesn't improve the legs of our existing kickers ... nor does it make them instantly more experienced. Woods is the new ST coordinator ... ultimately improvements in ST are on him. However, to be fair to LeVar, I think that a few seasons of data are necessary in order to better gauge his improvement at his post.
 
Getting a new consultant doesn't improve the legs of our existing kickers ... nor does it make them instantly more experienced. Woods is the new ST coordinator ... ultimately improvements in ST are on him. However, to be fair to LeVar, I think that a few seasons of data are necessary in order to better gauge his improvement at his post.
True, but it is his/their job to teach our guys how to properly field a punt in our own red zone. Through 10 games this season we are still painfully bad doing that.
 
True, but it is his/their job to teach our guys how to properly field a punt in our own red zone. Through 10 games this season we are still painfully bad doing that.

The question is, have they taught them what to do? You are assuming they haven't. If you are taught the correct thing to do but still shit the bed when it is gametime, then it is on you. They have switched up returners a few times this season.
 
They have switched up returners a few times this season.

They've switched up punt returners once this year, Jackson to MVB. Both looked clueless (maybe too harsh, lets go with uncomfortable) back there. Both are upperclassmen with plenty of playing experience.

Seems like most teams can field a punt returner that doesn't make these type of mental mistakes out there (dropping punts aside). We seem to have the inverse problem, where we can field the punt just fine, we just don't know when to.
 
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