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GOP sen.: Let restaurants ‘opt out’ of handwashing after toilet to ‘reduce regulatory burden’

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After reading please notice the flaw in his thinking.

Sen. Thom Tillis (R-NC) argued this week that restaurants should be able to “opt out” of health department regulations that require employees to wash their hands after using the bathroom.

On Monday, the freshman senator ended his talk at the Bipartisan Policy Center (BPC) with a story to illustrate his philosophy on government regulations.

“I was having this discussion with someone, and we were at a Starbucks in my district, and we were talking about certain regulations where I felt like maybe you should allow businesses to opt out,” Tillis recalled. “Let an industry or business opt out as long as they indicate through proper disclosure, through advertising, through employment, literature, whatever else. There’s this level of regulations that maybe they’re on the books, but maybe you can make a market-based decision as to whether or not they should apply to you.”

Tillis said that at about that time, a Starbucks employee came out of one of the restrooms.

“Don’t you believe that this regulation that requires this gentlemen to wash his hands before he serves your food is important?” Tillis was asked by the person at his table.

“I think it’s one I can illustrate the point,” Tillis told the women. “I said, I don’t have any problem with Starbucks if they choose to opt out of this policy as long as the post a sign that says ‘We don’t require our employees to wash their hands after leaving the restrooms.’ The market will take care of that.”

“That’s probably one where every business that did that would go out of business,” he added. “But I think it’s good to illustrate the point that that’s the sort of mentality that we need to have to reduce the regulatory burden on this country.”

“We’re one of the most regulated nations in the history of the planet, and I think if we go about it in a common sense way that that solves a lot of problems. It makes these other big problems that we’re talking about imminently more easy to solve.”
 
A Coast Guardsman and a Navy sailor are both in the bathroom using the urinals.

As they finish, the sailor heads for the sink and the Coastie heads for the door.

The sailor bellows, "Didn't they teach you Puddle Patrollers to wash your hands in boot camp?"

The Coastie replies, "No, they taught us to not pee on our hands."

~rim shot~
 
“I think it’s one I can illustrate the point,” Tillis told the women. “I said, I don’t have any problem with Starbucks if they choose to opt out of this policy as long as the post a sign that says ‘We don’t require our employees to wash their hands after leaving the restrooms.’ The market will take care of that.”

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The number of signs businesses are required to post has grown to ridiculous proportions.

We have two different signs for minimum wage (state and federal). OSHA has a sign. The EEOC has a sign. There's a sign letting employers know they can't use lie detectors on employees. There's a worker's comp sign and a state civil rights laws sign. There's child labor law sign. There's a sign warning you can't discriminate against military members and veterans. Signs advising employees that they have the right to collectively bargain and their right to take FMLA leave. There are two different E-Verify signs (actually four because you have to post the English and Spanish versions).

And a whole slew of additional signs depending on what industry you're in.

No one reads any of these signs. The only purpose is to provide something that regulators can fine you for if one of the requisite signs is missing, covered up by something else, defaced, etc.

 
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Ah, I see the con strategy strategy.

First you protest against the tyranny of being required to wash hands, and dismiss the concerns by saying there will be signs.

Then you protest the tyranny of too many signs.

Clever.
 
Hate to think of the failure rate of people following signs when it comes to the hand washing.
 
The number of signs businesses are required to post has grown to ridiculous proportions.

We have two different signs for minimum wage (state and federal). OSHA has a sign. The EEOC has a sign. There's a sign letting employers know they can't use lie detectors on employees. There's a worker's comp sign and a state civil rights laws sign. There's child labor law sign. There's a sign warning you can't discriminate against military members and veterans. Signs advising employees that they have the right to collectively bargain and their right to take FMLA leave. There are two different E-Verify signs (actually four because you have to post the English and Spanish versions).

And a whole slew of additional signs depending on what industry you're in.

No one reads any of these signs. The only purpose is to provide something that regulators can fine you for if one of the requisite signs is missing, covered up by something else, defaced, etc

Why don't you tell us the real reason you're forced to post those signs. C'mon...show us you know.
 
Why don't you tell us the real reason you're forced to post those signs. C'mon...show us you know.

To create an "All-In-One Labor Law Poster" industry that provides automatic updates whenever some alphabet soup agency decides to update their sign? You know, because all employers have time to constantly check with dozens of state and federal regulators to see if there have been any new signage requirements?
 
Pissing on your hands can be a good way to clean them off after taking a dump without the benefit of toilet paper.

Yah, people are just to sensitive these days. Don't you guys remember hearing after Hillary's bathroom break during the debate, that urine is sterile? :eek:
 
To create an "All-In-One Labor Law Poster" industry that provides automatic updates whenever some alphabet soup agency decides to update their sign? You know, because all employers have time to constantly check with dozens of state and federal regulators to see if there have been any new signage requirements?

I thought you worked in HR. Maybe I was mistaken. You really should understand the "whys" before you go off. You look...ignorant...when you don't.
 
I thought you worked in HR. Maybe I was mistaken. You really should understand the "whys" before you go off. You look...ignorant...when you don't.

Allegedly, it's so employees will know their rights and how to report employer wrongdoing.

In reality, no one ever look at the stupid signs, and in this day and age, any employee interested in this stuff has the ability to look it up on their smartphones.

Do you really think someone won't realize they're being paid less than minimum wage unless the employer posts a government sign stating what the minimum wage is?
 
Allegedly, it's so employees will know their rights and how to report employer wrongdoing.

In reality, no one ever look at the stupid signs, and in this day and age, any employee interested in this stuff has the ability to look it up on their smartphones.

Do you really think someone won't realize they're being paid less than minimum wage unless the employer posts a government sign stating what the minimum wage is?

Half right...but that's pretty good for you. They also prevent the employer from making the claim that they didn't know, didn't understand, didn't "whatever" when they violate the law.

And if keeping up is a problem, NC - and I assume other states - provide a service that informs you when state or federal regs change and they automatically send new signage.
 
Half right...but that's pretty good for you. They also prevent the employer from making the claim that they didn't know, didn't understand, didn't "whatever" when they violate the law.

And if keeping up is a problem, NC - and I assume other states - provide a service that informs you when state or federal regs change and they automatically send new signage.

Ignorance of the law has never been an excuse. That's the lamest justification ever.

We operate nine facilities in North Carolina. Can you please provide the link for this free notification and signage service provided by the state?
 
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