Guards who Iowa has contacted in the portal?

[Ihawkhoops]

It's more than just shooting free throws. Connor makes good decisions. He is like having a coach on the floor. I haven't seen enough of the young guards to know how they would close out a game. The crap about Connor playing because his dad is coach is BS IMO. He played hurt this past year, and was one of the most valuable players the year before.

I respect your POV here, but I do not understand how you can have this evaluation of Connor. The stats are what they are. He plays 30+ mpg and averages 3 ppg and can't shoot or drive which allows his man to sag off and help elsewhere. He is an 'ok' defender but no more. He is not a good ft shooter, so having the ball in his hands late in games is not optimal and back to my earlier point, the team is 4 on 5 offensively with him on the floor. Has any aspect of his game improved? I don't think so.

Is he a heady, gritty, tough-nosed team guy? 100% yes. Does that translate to starting and playing a lot of minutes on team that will be offensively challenged next year? Going back a year on this... Connor had some nice moments when he was able to post his guy up, survey the floor and look for guys coming off screens. He is a high-level distributor of the ball, but isn't a high-level ball handler, driver, scorer. Put him in situations where he can hit cutters, shoot his step back or take a couple dribbles + ball fake and use his strength to finish in close. This is where I think he would be best utilized. Parking him outside the 3-point line doesn't fit with his game IMO.

 

[BirdistheWord]

If he can't make it through a season uninjured at Iowa, KY isn't going to be any easier.

Right, I agree, but my point is that a slightly lesser role will be easier on his body versus maximum minutes likely at Iowa.

 

[amahawk]

I think Fran has asked JBo to keep it quiet. That would make sense anyhow... Both for transfers and current players.

If Jordan says he is coming back for his 9th year, that would immediately rule out a lot of players. Knowing that a starter is returning.

It would also make it a negative for current players. Knowing that another guard is staying, and taking minutes. Although with CJ leaving, that opens up a tons of minutes...if he could get healthy.

I would like another guard, for certain. To add a cliché, Guards win championships.

Bad hips and a bad shoulder, time to hang it up or spot duty .

 

[BirdistheWord]

Agreed, but would he be willing to accept that role?

Probably not, I just figured he would love my recommendation!

 

[Dargo]

If Bohannon returns I doubt we look to add any guards. With PMac , the Murray's, and Sandfort I think we are fine

LOL

 

[BBHawk]

If Bohannon returns I doubt we look to add any guards. With PMac , the Murray's, and Sandfort I think we are fine

Whether JoBo returns or nor doesn't impact the scholarships available so I am assuming that Iowa will continue to look for someone to fill CJ's slot.

 

[Dargo]

i wonder what a 100% healthy JBo would look like. I doubt we have consistently seen that for quite some time.

He might have a 12 inch vertical instead of 10. Seriously, he is not athletic enough, and never has been. He is simply overmatched against anyone with a shred of athleticism.

 

[NevadaHawk]

Who knows, maybe JBo coming back was part of the reason for CJ's departure.

Interesting speculation.

 

[BBHawk]

Who knows, maybe JBo coming back was part of the reason for CJ's departure.

Probably scared of the competition...
😉

 

[2432Hawk]

Whether JoBo returns or nor doesn't impact the scholarships available so I am assuming that Iowa will continue to look for someone to fill CJ's slot.

I don't

With Perkins/Ulis/Bohannon/Murray's/PMac and Sandfort there are plenty of bodies to man the 2/3 slots..... and Iowa has 2022 targets so unless they find a 1 year guy (Bohannon fills that).... I don't see them looking for another guard

 

[MitchLL]

IMO, they absolutely have to find someone that can hit 3s.

 

[HoustonREDHawk]

I respect your POV here, but I do not understand how you can have this evaluation of Connor. The stats are what they are. He plays 30+ mpg and averages 3 ppg and can't shoot or drive which allows his man to sag off and help elsewhere. He is an 'ok' defender but no more. He is not a good ft shooter, so having the ball in his hands late in games is not optimal and back to my earlier point, the team is 4 on 5 offensively with him on the floor. Has any aspect of his game improved? I don't think so.

Is he a heady, gritty, tough-nosed team guy? 100% yes. Does that translate to starting and playing a lot of minutes on team that will be offensively challenged next year? Going back a year on this... Connor had some nice moments when he was able to post his guy up, survey the floor and look for guys coming off screens. He is a high-level distributor of the ball, but isn't a high-level ball handler, driver, scorer. Put him in situations where he can hit cutters, shoot his step back or take a couple dribbles + ball fake and use his strength to finish in close. This is where I think he would be best utilized. Parking him outside the 3-point line doesn't fit with his game IMO.

I said I want Connor in at the end of the game, along with JBo, if he is on the team. I said nothing about giving him 30+ mpg, although I would probably play him 20 mpg. His decision making and getting the ball to the right person (JBo or other good FT shooters) is why I want him in, especially at the end of the game. If Iowa needs to take the ball out of bounds, and the other team is pressing, Iowa has no one who is as good at getting it in the right person. I think that Connor led the nation in assist/turnover ratio the year before last (or was very close). I think last year for both Connor and CJ were not representative of what they can do.

 

[HoustonREDHawk]

This thread kind of went off from what I was hoping. Is there no information about Iowa contacting guards in the portal? I have only heard about centers.

 

[BBHawk]

I said I want Connor in at the end of the game, along with JBo, if he is on the team. I said nothing about giving him 30+ mpg, although I would probably play him 20 mpg. His decision making and getting the ball to the right person (JBo or other good FT shooters) is why I want him in, especially at the end of the game. If Iowa needs to take the ball out of bounds, and the other team is pressing, Iowa has no one who is as good at getting it in the right person. I think that Connor led the nation in assist/turnover ratio the year before last (or was very close). I think last year for both Connor and CJ were not representative of what they can do.

This. CMac's understanding of what needs to be done many times outweighs his shortcomings. But with the talented young guys, I prefer to see him play fewer minutes and spend more time helping as a coach on the floor and the bench. His smarts could really help this young team. Only one junior and one senior (HIM). Such a young team.

 

[hawkeyeguy69]

Bad hips and a bad shoulder, time to hang it up or spot duty .

I'm good with spot duty. High percentage 3pt shooter coming off the bench. Works for me!

 

[CleteyColgate]

Probably scared of the competition...
😉

No

 

[Ronman]

Who knows if JoeT and two totally untested new guys (Ulis and Perkins) are ready to fill the 80 available guard minutes? Who knows if Ulis and Perkins can shoot the ball? Can beat their man off the dribble and take it to the hoop consistently ? Can handle the defensive pressure they'll encounter in the B1G? Young guys, Joe T included, make mistakes and need to be benched at times. I would feel as if we have a bit of an insurance policy if JBo comes back. He's been there, done that and usually at a pretty decent level.

 

[BBHawk]

No

Thus the winkie...

There are 2 posters now who have guessed that CJ left because Jordan is now coming back. Never mind that Jordan's situation was in April and CJ was already putting out feelers in February. Someone has a timeline issue in their logic...

 

[RocknRollface]

Thus the winkie...

There are 2 posters now who have guessed that CJ left because Jordan is now coming back. Never mind that Jordan's situation was in April and CJ was already putting out feelers in February. Someone has a timeline issue in their logic...

Players were aware they had the option to come back last summer.

To think they never discussed it with eachother is silly.

 

[BBHawk]

Players were aware they had the option to come back last summer.

To think they never discussed it with eachother is silly.

See my other post. If you think that CJ is transferring because Jordan was considering coming back, I have some beach front proprty in southern New Mexico to sell you.

 

[RocknRollface]

See my other post. If you think that CJ is transferring because Jordan was considering coming back, I have some beach front proprty in southern New Mexico to sell you.

See my reply.

If you think players weren't talking about next year amongst eachother I have some interesting real-estate opportunities for you as well.

 

[BBHawk]

See my reply.

If you think players weren't talking about next year amongst eachother I have some interesting real-estate opportunities for you as well.

Note that I didn't say they weren't talking to each other...

 

[sadiehawkins]

I said I want Connor in at the end of the game, along with JBo, if he is on the team. I said nothing about giving him 30+ mpg, although I would probably play him 20 mpg. His decision making and getting the ball to the right person (JBo or other good FT shooters) is why I want him in, especially at the end of the game. If Iowa needs to take the ball out of bounds, and the other team is pressing, Iowa has no one who is as good at getting it in the right person. I think that Connor led the nation in assist/turnover ratio the year before last (or was very close). I think last year for both Connor and CJ were not representative of what they can do.

Hell i could of led the nation in assist if i had garza to dump the ball to and i'm 70

 

[CleteyColgate]

Hell i could of led the nation in assist if i had garza to dump the ball to and i'm 70

I doubt it

 

[sadiehawkins]

with garza gone cmac value diminishes quite a bit if he really had any value. to many people oh and ah over what tv announcer say during a game.

 

[sadiehawkins]

I doubt it

i don't

 

[CalmHawk]

If you are 70, how do we know you don't think like Lee Corso or Dicki V?

 

[sadiehawkins]

U don t. but i slept at a holiday inn express last nite

 

[St78I81]

This isn't true. JoBo may not be the best defender on the team but he puts in the effort.

It's obvious you don't like him, but don't make shit up about him. He was/is a great Hawk.

JBo does try, but he lacks the strength, lateral quickness and overall speed to be very effective against the opposition he faces on defense in the Big Ten.

 

[HawkRose]

I said I want Connor in at the end of the game, along with JBo, if he is on the team. I said nothing about giving him 30+ mpg, although I would probably play him 20 mpg. His decision making and getting the ball to the right person (JBo or other good FT shooters) is why I want him in, especially at the end of the game. If Iowa needs to take the ball out of bounds, and the other team is pressing, Iowa has no one who is as good at getting it in the right person. I think that Connor led the nation in assist/turnover ratio the year before last (or was very close). I think last year for both Connor and CJ were not representative of what they can do.

Ridiculously overrated stat that was propped up by an 2 Time All American center. The advanced metrics are not on your side. Conner had the worst rated chemistry with every teammate on the team including Garza.

Anything over 5-10 is too much without considerable improvement.

 

[St78I81]

Whether JoBo returns or nor doesn't impact the scholarships available so I am assuming that Iowa will continue to look for someone to fill CJ's slot.

If JBo comes back and gets the minutes he has been getting (which would seem likely), we're probably going to lose at least one guard to the portal, and it'll be someone who never really had much of a shot at PT--not an ideal recipe for future recruiting success.

 

[The Deplorable Sleeping Dog]

I don't

With Perkins/Ulis/Bohannon/Murray's/PMac and Sandfort there are plenty of bodies to man the 2/3 slots..... and Iowa has 2022 targets so unless they find a 1 year guy (Bohannon fills that).... I don't see them looking for another guard

Unless Perkins or Ulis display a shot, heretofore unseen, Iowa is going to need shooting from a guard. Hopefully the portal is being heavily recruited for a good shooting guard.

 

[HawkRose]

Who knows if JoeT and two totally untested new guys (Ulis and Perkins) are ready to fill the 80 available guard minutes? Who knows if Ulis and Perkins can shoot the ball? Can beat their man off the dribble and take it to the hoop consistently ? Can handle the defensive pressure they'll encounter in the B1G? Young guys, Joe T included, make mistakes and need to be benched at times. I would feel as if we have a bit of an insurance policy if JBo comes back. He's been there, done that and usually at a pretty decent level.

Regardless we know the ceiling of Cmac/Jbo backcourt come tourney time. What did Oregon’s starting backcourt do to us, 60pts to 3 or something awful like that.

I will still claim Frans biggest coaching mistake at Iowa was not giving his young athletic guards enough leash last year. Maybe it ends up in same or worse result but at least your playing to win. Iowas end was pre-destined with its backcourt last year. Don’t think I could stomach watching another year of it.

 

[RocknRollface]

Note that I didn't say they weren't talking to each other...

Thats exactly what you implied.

That cj wouldn't have been considering whether or not there would be another player to compete with for pt.

 

[HawkRose]

Unless Perkins or Ulis display a shot, heretofore unseen, Iowa is going to need shooting from a guard. Hopefully the portal is being heavily recruited for a good shooting guard.

Keegan, Kris, Sandfort and Rebracca may end up being our best deep threats this year. Joe T, Ulis and Perkins slashing to the rim with athletic pick and pop forwards could be really fun to watch.

Offense is going to have a completely different flow without Garza as a focal point.

 

[BBHawk]

Thats exactly what you implied.

That cj wouldn't have been considering weather or not there would be another player to compete with for pt.

Whether he would give a shit is what I implied. WTF would he care if Jordan is there? Do you think he was worried about competition? HELL NO! Do you think he just didn't get along with Jordan? After 3 years suddenly he doesn't get along with him? This whole line of thought is ludicrous.
IF, and that's a big IF, CJ is leaving because Jordan is coming back for a year (we don't even know if that is the case yet - DOH!), then he is not worth the trouble of keeping around.

 

[BBHawk]

Keegan, Kris, Sandfort and Rebracca may end up being our best deep threats this year. Joe T, Ulis and Perkins slashing to the rim with athletic pick and pop forwards could be really fun to watch.

Offense is going to have a completely different flow without Garza as a focal point.

Ulis was 42/106 from the 3 as a senior (40%) so he can shoot the 3. He just hasn't chosen to do so yet. I can see him being a scorer at pg in the future.

 

[TrianglePlace]

Keegan, Kris, Sandfort and Rebracca may end up being our best deep threats this year.

I really hope not. The Murray boys and Rebraca are a combined 42/137 (30.7%) from three point range in their college careers.

 

[TrianglePlace]

Ulis was 42/106 from the 3 as a senior (40%) so he can shoot the 3. He just hasn't chosen to do so yet. I can see him being a scorer at pg in the future.

Not a great idea to assume HS shooting stats will translate well to college.

 

[RocknRollface]

Whether he would give a shit is what I implied. WTF would he care if Jordan is there? Do you think he was worried about competition? HELL NO! Do you think he just didn't get along with Jordan? After 3 years suddenly he doesn't get along with him? This whole line of thought is ludicrous.
IF, and that's a big IF, CJ is leaving because Jordan is coming back for a year (we don't even know if that is the case yet - DOH!), then he is not worth the trouble of keeping around.

Well there's allot of reasons he might care.

They only played together 1 year and CJ had a bigger role the previous season.

If JBO was coming back to play the 2 it would definitely cut into CJs pt.