Hawks and a Number 1 Seed........

[Hawkman34]

Sorry if this has already been discussed, but lets say the Hawks beat the Badgers and Illinois loses to OSU. What happens in each of the following scenarios?

1) Then they both exit the BIG tourney on Friday.
2) They meet up and the Hawks beat them on Saturday.

Thanks

 

[silasstarr]

Iowa would certainly be trending, which wouldn't hurt their chances.

 

[Obviously Oblivious]

Anything can happen, but even if Iowa wins out through the BTT, I still think the likelihood of Iowa as a #1 seed is still <10%. IMO Gonzaga, Baylor & Meatchicken are virtual locks unfortunately. That leaves only one slot for the rest of the field and those are bad odds.

 

[StormHawk42]

Pretty much have to hope Illinois loses out and Hawks get super hot. Illinois has an edge with two more Q1 wins and one less Q2 loss. Also the better win at Michigan. And head to head. And a better SOS.

 

[CUHawkeye91]

For Iowa to get a #1 seed, they likely have to beat Wisky and win the BIG tourney hopefully with wins over UI and UM along the way.

 

[Birky]

Pretty much have to hope Illinois loses out and Hawks get super hot. Illinois has an edge with two more Q1 wins and one less Q2 loss. Also the better win at Michigan. And head to head. And a better SOS.

If Iowa wins out, nearly everything you just listed will be even, even if Illinois’ only loss is to Iowa in the semis.

 

[Big Hawk D-Port]

How about Illinois gets the #1 seed and we are the #2 in their bracket. It would be epic to play them for a chance to go to the final four.

 

[33hawkfan]

Anything can happen, but even if Iowa wins out through the BTT, I still think the likelihood of Iowa as a #1 seed is still <10%. IMO Gonzaga, Baylor & Meatchicken are virtual locks unfortunately. That leaves only one slot for the rest of the field and those are bad odds.

If any of Iowa, Illinois or OSU win the BTT they will be a one seed. Whoever wins the BTT is likely to pick up two of the best wins any team has this year to accomplish it.

 

[The Deplorable Sleeping Dog]

Michigan is a number one unless they lose before the BTT finals. Let's hope the Hawks get revenge in the finals. We get the last no. 1 if that happens.

 

[mthawkeyes]

If any of Iowa, Illinois or OSU win the BTT they will be a one seed. Whoever wins the BTT is likely to pick up two of the best wins any team has this year to accomplish it.

This. Iowa would likely have beaten Illinois and Michigan on back-to-back days. This would clearly put Iowa above Houston, Alabama, West Virginia, Villanova, etc.

 

[Rambler Hawk]

How about Illinois gets the #1 seed and we are the #2 in their bracket. It would be epic to play them for a chance to go to the final four.

Not a crazy thought...

 

[pocha444444]

Michigan is a number one unless they lose before the BTT finals. Let's hope the Hawks get revenge in the finals. We get the last no. 1 if that happens.

Michigan will be a #1 even if they lose their first game.

 

[BBHawk]

For Iowa to get a #1 seed, they likely have to beat Wisky and win the BIG tourney hopefully with wins over UI and UM along the way.

I'll take it!

😉

 

[StormHawk42]

Michigan is a number one unless they lose before the BTT finals. Let's hope the Hawks get revenge in the finals. We get the last no. 1 if that happens.

They’re a number one even without that. Max 4 losses. They’re not going anywhere.

 

[The Deplorable Sleeping Dog]

Michigan will be a #1 even if they lose their first game.

Tend to agree. The only way for them to lose would be to lose before the BTT finals and even that might not impact them. I think Michigan will also win the BTT.

So there could be two BIG nos 1. If Iowa wins the BTT it means Iowa, already National 4-6 beating two ranked teams in a row (Wisconsin and the 6th seed) and then beating National nos. 4-5 and then 2-3 in consecutive wins. Iowa's resume would then include 2 neutral court wins against top 5 teams, a top five road win at then tOSU and wins over two other ranked teams, Wisconsin and our likely opponent in the 3 v 6 BTT bracket in the last 3 weeks alone. Iowa also defeated more ranked opponents than any other team.

KenPom has Iowa 4 and Illini 5. BPI has Iowa 4, Michigan 5 and Illinois 6 today. CBS and NET have Illini 4 and Iowa 6. ESPN Illini 4 and Iowa 5, Most importantly, the NCAA webpage lists Illini 4 and Iowa 6. if Iowa beats Wisconsin and wins the quarterfinal game, the Iowa / Illini loser will be the bottom 2 or top 3 and the winner probably the top 2, unless they beat Michigan which could elevate to a second Big Ten 1st seed.

So the loser won't drop far, not below 8 so the 2nd seed is pretty likely, but you knock off a little value 'cuz its just Iowa and we may drop to a 3 seed with an Illini loss game. We also field the NPoY so that gives us more than the usual Iowa media value so I'm still thinking 2 is most likely, either no 5 or no 8.

 

[TheTruthTheWholeTruth]

Yeah it’s pretty apparent that three 1 seeds are already locked up. Illinois has the inside path at the 4th but Bama/Iowa/OSU still have a shot if things go topsy turvy. It really feels like Iowa is destined to be opposite Baylor. I really hope Villanova ends up a 3 in Iowa’s region.

 

[wilson reborn]

Iowa gets a two seed. Lightning will not strike twice. Iowa moves forward from the two seed.

 

[ICWestfan]

Anything less than a BTT title means Iowa is a 2 seed. Beat Illinois and Michigan makes then the defacto #1 at Illinois expense.

 

[pocha444444]

Tend to agree. The only way for them to lose would be to lose before the BTT finals and even that might not impact them. I think Michigan will also win the BTT.

So there could be two BIG nos 1. If Iowa wins the BTT it means Iowa, already National 4-6 beating two ranked teams in a row (Wisconsin and the 6th seed) and then beating National nos. 4-5 and then 2-3 in consecutive wins. Iowa's resume would then include 2 neutral court wins against top 5 teams, a top five road win at then tOSU and wins over two other ranked teams, Wisconsin and our likely opponent in the 3 v 6 BTT bracket in the last 3 weeks alone. Iowa also defeated more ranked opponents than any other team.

KenPom has Iowa 4 and Illini 5. BPI has Iowa 4, Michigan 5 and Illinois 6 today. CBS and NET have Illini 4 and Iowa 6. ESPN Illini 4 and Iowa 5, Most importantly, the NCAA webpage lists Illini 4 and Iowa 6. if Iowa beats Wisconsin and wins the quarterfinal game, the Iowa / Illini loser will be the bottom 2 or top 3 and the winner probably the top 2, unless they beat Michigan which could elevate to a second Big Ten 1st seed.

So the loser won't drop far, not below 8 so the 2nd seed is pretty likely, but you knock off a little value 'cuz its just Iowa and we may drop to a 3 seed with an Illini loss game. We also field the NPoY so that gives us more than the usual Iowa media value so I'm still thinking 2 is most likely, either no 5 or no 8.

Yep gotta hope the Illini lose to Ohio State, then we take them down in the BTT after beating Wisconsin. Then it would be pretty close to a toss up imo. Both would have the same amount of losses, 1-1 head to head with the metrics favoring the Hawks. I'd still probably give a slight edge to Illinois for the Michigan win. If the Hawks win the BTT though, with Illinois losing this weekend, then I think you have to give the Hawks the fourth 1 seed.