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Hawks likely bowl destination

El Simbolo

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the big ten is likely to have 7-8 bowl eligible teams (I’ve listed their projected final reg season record):
Wisconsin 12-0
OSU 10-2
PSU 10-2
Northwestern 9-3
MSU 9-3
Michigan 8-4
Iowa 7-5 or 8-4 (don’t want to jinx us by saying 8-4)
maybe Indiana 5-7 or 6-6

I think Wisconsin, OSU, and PSU (all currently in Top 10) have a decent chance of making a NY6 game, and at least two of them should make it. I think whether we’re 7-5 or 8-4 we’re the 7th slot in the hierarchy. Where we go will largely depend on whether the conference gets 2 or 3 in the CFP/NY6, and possibly to some degree how serious the league is about not sending IU back to a bowl they’ve recently been to.

It seems likely to me that the SEC runner up or ND will be ranked higher than Big Ten runner up, so Orange Bowl is doubtful for Big Ten

Citrus: Wisconsin/OSU/PSU if not in NY6, or Northwestern/Michigan State (UM played there in 2015)
Outback: MSU or Michigan (NU played there in 2015)
Holiday: NU, MSU, or Michigan
Music City/Taxslayer: NU/MSU/Mich if only 2 in NY6
Or Music City: Iowa if 3 in NY6
Pinstripe: Iowa if 2 in NY6, IU if eligible and 3 in NY6
Foster Farms: IU is eligible and 2 in NY6

However, IU has recently played in both Pinstripe and Foster Farms, so its possible if only 2 make NY6 IU could move up to Music City/Taxslayer and Mich or MSU could drop to Pinstripe thus dropping Iowa to Foster Farms. Or if 3 make NY6, IU might still jump to Music City/Taxslayer and Iowa to Pinstripe.

Some have said (due to fan following, I think) that Iowa will never go to Quick Lane Bowl. However, with these contracts saying that each Bowl will get at least 5 different teams in 6 years, if the Big Ten has enough eligible teams in the future the simple math might force them to send the Hawks there sometime. Rutgers, Minnesota, and Maryland have already used one of their spots in Detroit. The Big Ten likely won’t fill that Bowl this year, but that would mean the next two years would pick from the following realistic pool should we have enough eligible teams: Illinois, Purdue, Nebraska, Northwestern, Indiana, MSU, and Iowa. On second thought I guess we should be able to stay above at least two of those in the pecking order, so never mind. Current contracts run through 2019, so for 2017, 2018, 2019 we still have yet to use a spot in the Citrus, Holiday, Music City, Pinstripe, of Foster Farms. So barring 6-6 seasons we should be safe from Detroit through 2019.
 
Music City vs Kentucky or Foster Farms vs Arizona/Washington St
 
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At the level Iowa will be at whether 8-4 or 7-5 It has nothing to do with wins and losses and everything to do with $$$$$$$$

The Big Ten will send Iowa to the bowl that will generate the most revenue ... thus the large traveling fan base is the selection key.

Northwestern could be 9-3 vs a 7-5 Iowa and if the Holiday Bowl gets pick first over Music City guess what we go to San Diego because we bring the $$$

No chance in double toothpicks does the Big Ten get in CFP or more than 2 Top 6.

Best Guess

Cotton Bowl Wisconsin
Peach Bowl Ohio State
Citrus PSU
Outback Michigan State
Holiday Michigan
Taxslayer Northwestern
Music City Iowa


Foster Farm, Pinstripe, Quick Lane

Maryland, Indiana, Minnesota,
 
Iowa can beat Kentucky, not sure how I feel against Arizona or Wazzu.
Arizona QB would be a nightmare
Washington St O puts up points but their D gives up a ton....I think Minnesota kicked their ass last year.

Kentucky...no idea haven't seen them play
 
That would be our luck to play az.

I am all for playing in a easy, Podunk bowl this year. We NEED a bowl win and the positive offseason vibe.

I have no doubt we will get bumped up as usual though and play a team that should beat us.

BAU. One of the pitfalls of B1G money and a great fsnbase
 
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There was indeed a time when Iowa would never have gone to Detroit, but that time is gone.
 
I can easily see 20,000 Iowa fans in Nashville for the Music City Bowl.
Great city. Game is played on Friday, December 29th.
Fans would stay for the weekend.

Nashville I-Club has around 200 fans that attend weekly Iowa games.
Scott Ramsey, Director of Music City Bowl, has wanted Iowa to play here for years.
 
If you are an Iowa State where any bowl game is a real accomplishment, that is one thing. But I could really care less about the majority of these games that are played at some random day and time. Judging by the attendance at some of these bowls, the feeling is wide spread.
 
But I could really care less about the majority of these games that are played at some random day and time. Judging by the attendance at some of these bowls, the feeling is wide spread.

Agreed. Any of the bowls mentioned would be fine. I don't really care for the Pinstripe Bowl in NYC, but maybe playing some southern team in a cold weather spot would help the Hawks get a W.
 
No chance in double toothpicks does the Big Ten get in CFP or more than 2 Top 6.,

There are 11 spots for Power 5 (and ND) teams in the the NY6. 5 will go to conference champs. I think at most there are only 5 spots that could be grabbed above a 10-3 OSU or 10-2 PSU. So if all 5 of these teams end up in the Top 11 that would mean only OSU or PSU would make it.

2 SEC teams that don’t win conference (Alabama, Auburn, UGA)
Loser of ACC championship
Oklahoma if they lose B12 championship game
ND if they win at Stanford

So if OU wins B12 and ND loses, then 3 big ten teams in top 11 is likely (and still mostly likely if only one of those two things happens)
 
Of seven websites I just checked, four have 3 big ten teams in NY6. Bleacher report, cfn, sbnation, usatoday, athlon, si, ESPN

The ones that didn’t were due to them thinking Okie St or TCU would get in above third Big Ten team. Another had Washington gettting in along with 3 big ten teams. Other than that, no teams other than those in my last post were projected. Maybe those teams end up above a three loss OSU, but I can’t see how they’d jump ahead of PSU without PSU losing.

A few of them had the second B12 team in the cotton bowl. I wonder if they think there’s some tie between B12 and cotton - there isn’t. The only NY6 bowl with conference ties this year is the Orange. If it loses its champion to the CFP (it will) then it picks another ACC team. Orange will also get highest ranked of the following: non-champ from SEC, non-champ from B1G, or ND

So I stand by my OP that it will be Music City, Pinstripe, or Foster Farms for Iowa. Another poster is correct that a bowl may pick Iowa over NU, but that bowl won’t be the Holiday, I don’t think. When the Holiday picks it’s impossible for MSU or Michigan to also not be available, so we’d have to jump them too. I suppose us jumping fellow 8-4 Michigan on a two game losing streak isn’t a reach, so maybe Holiday is still possible.
 
Arizona QB would be a nightmare
Washington St O puts up points but their D gives up a ton....I think Minnesota kicked their ass last year.

Kentucky...no idea haven't seen them play
You still have the caveat of Iowa... we don't seem to prepare well for bowl games as of late.
 
Speculation on who we might beat all depends on whether Dr. Jekyl team that beat OSU shows up or Mr. Hyde team that lost to Wisconsin.
Far be it for me to be a stickler for story plots but I believe it was crazy Mr. Hyde who beat Ohio State like a madman and the mild manner Dr. Jekyl who was in Madison last week.
 
Agreed. Any of the bowls mentioned would be fine. I don't really care for the Pinstripe Bowl in NYC, but maybe playing some southern team in a cold weather spot would help the Hawks get a W.
The few predictions for Pinstripe bowl has been against Boston College or Virginia so there goes the cold weather bonus
 
Well I think scratch Holiday from my OP. Big Ten will have 8 teams in bowls, with IU-PU winner getting one. If we want Music City Bowl cheer for UW, OSU, PU, and PSU next week. The more teams we get in NY6 will help that cause. Also, IU has recently been to Pinstripe and Foster Farms so they could maybe get bumped above us to Nashville to avoid repeat locations. Josey doesn’t you want you to tell the rest of the team, but Detroit seems only a possibility if conference only gets 1 NY6 team and we’re the last big ten team picked
 
We need to go to the crappiest bowl possible. This program needs at least a chance of a victory or be in the game at half which might be a moral victory.
 
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We need to play a team that sounds good, but isn’t. Is UCLA good? I see they’re 5-6. Could they go 6-6 and be in Foster Farms Bowl?
 
We need to play a team that sounds good, but isn’t. Is UCLA good? I see they’re 5-6. Could they go 6-6 and be in Foster Farms Bowl?
QB is future 1st rounder with athletes surrounding him. The d is horrible vs the rush

I think if we go out west we get stuck playing the loser of Wash/Wash St or the loser of Arizona/ Arizona St
 
Foster Farms apparently gets the 4th place P12 team. Current projections on that are split between Stanford and Washington, or possibly Arizona. Don’t think we want any part of Stanford or Wash. The lowest ranked Sagarin teams projected to our potential bowls are #59 Kentucky in Music City and #71 Virginia in Pinstripe. Those two don’t really have the prestige though. For prestige the best opponents would be #33 FSU, #28 Louisville, #18 VaTech in Pinstripe. Think any of those are good matchups for us?
 
Foster Farms apparently gets the 4th place P12 team. Current projections on that are split between Stanford and Washington, or possibly Arizona. Don’t think we want any part of Stanford or Wash. The lowest ranked Sagarin teams projected to our potential bowls are #59 Kentucky in Music City and #71 Virginia in Pinstripe. Those two don’t really have the prestige though. For prestige the best opponents would be #33 FSU, #28 Louisville, #18 VaTech in Pinstripe. Think any of those are good matchups for us?

I'd like to see what Iowa could do against a Louisville or VTech. I'd feel really good about W against Kentucky & Virginia.
 
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I'd like to see what Iowa could do against a Louisville or VTech. I'd feel really good about W against Kentucky & Virginia.

Lamar Jackson against an Iowa defense?!?. You, my friend, are crazy. You think Dan Persa, Randal El, Taylor Martinez and every running qb we have ever gone against were a pain in our quarter quarter half backsides, Lamar Jackson would be brutal.
 
Agreed. Any of the bowls mentioned would be fine. I don't really care for the Pinstripe Bowl in NYC, but maybe playing some southern team in a cold weather spot would help the Hawks get a W.
Problem with the Pinstripe Bowl is twofold: Weather and money.
 
Problem with the Pinstripe Bowl is twofold: Weather and money.

Agreed. A few years ago I thought it would be nice to take Mrs. 4_shur to NYC in December for Christmas lights, etc. You know, NY hustle and bustle during the Holiday season?

Then I started pricing it. :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
 
Foster Farms apparently gets the 4th place P12 team. Current projections on that are split between Stanford and Washington, or possibly Arizona. Don’t think we want any part of Stanford or Wash. The lowest ranked Sagarin teams projected to our potential bowls are #59 Kentucky in Music City and #71 Virginia in Pinstripe. Those two don’t really have the prestige though. For prestige the best opponents would be #33 FSU, #28 Louisville, #18 VaTech in Pinstripe. Think any of those are good matchups for us?
Iowa can definitely beat FSU, Louisville and VaTech not so sure about.
 
Problem with the Pinstripe Bowl is twofold: Weather and money.
And date. My parents are both alive and I have grandkids and the 27th is just not a good date if you want to spend Christmas with family. Things get to rushed.
 
At the level Iowa will be at whether 8-4 or 7-5 It has nothing to do with wins and losses and everything to do with $$$$$$$$

The Big Ten will send Iowa to the bowl that will generate the most revenue ... thus the large traveling fan base is the selection key.

Northwestern could be 9-3 vs a 7-5 Iowa and if the Holiday Bowl gets pick first over Music City guess what we go to San Diego because we bring the $$$

No chance in double toothpicks does the Big Ten get in CFP or more than 2 Top 6.

Best Guess

Cotton Bowl Wisconsin
Peach Bowl Ohio State
Citrus PSU
Outback Michigan State
Holiday Michigan
Taxslayer Northwestern
Music City Iowa


Foster Farm, Pinstripe, Quick Lane

Maryland, Indiana, Minnesota,
I don't think we will travel well this year,especially it we don't beat Nebraska...What say you.
 
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