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headline: Two transgender girls sue to challenge Trump’s executive order banning them from girls’ school sports

its funny becasue when i was in high school 25 years ago, we had 2 guys that were on the girls field hockey team

no one really cared
I don't know what the answer is; but I do think the athletes that have to compete should have a say, and there have been a ton of them speaking out. Not just the big headline grabbing ones. Personally it impacts me zero; but I find it fascinating how grown ass men on both sides try to speak for the girls that it impacts. Both sides are trying to silence their opinion.
 
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it's amazing the different once kids hit puberty.

we often have our 5/6 grade boys & girls basketball teams scrimmage each other and they are relatively fair, although the boys wear the girls down.

although we cannot even attempt scrimmaging the 7/8 graders because of fear of the girls getting hurt, not to mention they'd just get blown out.
 
I don't know what the answer is; but I do think the athletes that have to compete should have a say, and there have been a ton of them speaking out. Not just the big headline grabbing ones. Personally it impacts me zero; but I find it fascinating how grown ass men on both sides try to speak for the girls that it impacts. Both sides are trying to silence their opinion.
i'd be fine with leaving it to the states to decide

i certainly understand the objections related to sports participation...i just don't' share the general vitriol for trans people
 

Two transgender girls sue to challenge Trump’s executive order banning them from girls’ school sports​



should read, Two boys who wear dresses want to compete against real girls in sports.
I thought they said something along the lines that they just wanted to be in the body they believed they were.
Why does playing a girls sport matter so much? If they want to play, im sure they can still play in the boys sport they grew up playing and competing against.
It almost seems like they pretend to be a girl just for the competitive advantage.
 
I understand threatening to pull federal funds to schools who participate in this -- I think -- but the legal pathway to forcing this everywhere in society isn't clear.

Seems something states and localities would be able to control..
Are you serious? So you are saying sex specific bathrooms and locker rooms might not be legal? Why do those who support men participating in women's sports, because they feel bad for trans athletes who just want to play sports, completely disregard how the girls feel? Why should a girl be forced to dress next to a male? Some young girls are embarrassed to dress in front of other girls let along a boy. Why should a girl be forced to participate against a male who is obviously physically superior. Why don't the girls get a say? Why has the left made this political? No one who is being honest can actually believe men should participate against women.
 
Are you serious? So you are saying sex specific bathrooms and locker rooms might not be legal? Why do those who support men participating in women's sports, because they feel bad for trans athletes who just want to play sports, completely disregard how the girls feel? Why should a girl be forced to dress next to a male? Some young girls are embarrassed to dress in front of other girls let along a boy. Why should a girl be forced to participate against a male who is obviously physically superior. Why don't the girls get a say? Why has the left made this political? No one who is being honest can actually believe men should participate against women.
Was talking about how we approach the issue legally. Agree that there are a bunch of reasons males in female sports is problematic, wasn't my focus here.
 
I don’t either.

Separation of girls’ and boys’ sports seems pretty unambiguous to me.
Not quite "that" constant. While T IX has obviously been around for a long time, in 2024, the Biden administration issued a rule to the effect that the statute protected gender identity in what was generally regarded as an expansion of the statute. That rule was struck down in early January by a district court in KY (say what you will about that, given the broader construction of the term sex by scotus in the employment t vii context in bostock; I guess we'll see about t ix in skrmetti soon enough).
 
Are you serious? So you are saying sex specific bathrooms and locker rooms might not be legal? Why do those who support men participating in women's sports, because they feel bad for trans athletes who just want to play sports, completely disregard how the girls feel? Why should a girl be forced to dress next to a male? Some young girls are embarrassed to dress in front of other girls let along a boy. Why should a girl be forced to participate against a male who is obviously physically superior. Why don't the girls get a say? Why has the left made this political? No one who is being honest can actually believe men should participate against women.
My God you're an ignorant lady or fellow. Truly incredible amount of nonsense in this post. For the record, I am not a supporter of men playing girls' sports. I just know you've been conned into thinking this teeny tiny issue is MASSIVELY important in this country. Hook, line and sinker.
 
My God you're an ignorant lady or fellow. Truly incredible amount of nonsense in this post. For the record, I am not a supporter of men playing girls' sports. I just know you've been conned into thinking this teeny tiny issue is MASSIVELY important in this country. Hook, line and sinker.
Way more important than shitting on the constitution and allowing private citizens all the information in the treasury department. Oh wait, only certain private citizens.
 
That takes some balls.
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