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They believe that they own this country and no one has the right to take it away from them.I wonder what they actually believe. Like... they obviously believe in their mission, they believe it must be advantageous. But do they really think they're fixing important problems? Addressing democratic cheating?
The video cutup is a little conflicting since it shows what seems to be contradictory behavior. I wish I had the whole thing.
I think you could make an argument that they're in a bit of a holy war at this point... where you can do almost anything necessary to win. I think they're in pretty deep that way.They believe that they own this country and no one has the right to take it away from them.
I would imagine it's a mix of a few true believers, a handful of people caught up in the fervor and a whole lot of individuals looking to make their specific situation better.I think you could make an argument that they're in a bit of a holy war at this point... where you can do almost anything necessary to win. I think they're in pretty deep that way.
I just wonder how much cognitive dissonance is going on. Do they really believe what they're preaching?
Nobody in video mentions voter suppression. The narrator does.But posters here said that the new laws aren't about voter suppression at all....
Oh, well if they don't explicitly say the words it must not be what they're talking about.Nobody in video mentions voter suppression. The narrator does.
Can someone give me the cliffs on this?
Refer me to the moment in the video when they discuss anything close to voter suppression and I’ll retract my statement.Oh, well if they don't explicitly say the words it must not be what they're talking about.
Conservative think tank uses dark money to influence state election policy that aims to limit access to polls and keep like-minded conservatives in power.
Via some questionable measures that make it harder to vote.Ok, but like how are they suppressing the vote?
Ok, but like how are they suppressing the vote?
Let’s see what the Heritage Foundations founder said about voting:
“[Paul] Weyrich bluntly articulated . “I don’t want everybody to vote,” he said. “Elections are not won by a majority of the people. They never have been from the beginning of our country and they are not now. As a matter of fact, our leverage in the elections quite candidly goes up as the voting populace goes down.”
If you believe the various pieces of legislation passed by Iowa and Georgia are really designed to improve access to the polls, I can’t convince you otherwise, Swag.
HR1I don't know if I want everybody to vote either, but I'm not going to try to make it harder to vote for certain types of voters so as to benefit my party.
Exactly. This has been going on for the last 50+ years. Weyrich was a founder of the HF.Let’s see what the Heritage Foundations founder said about voting:
“[Paul] Weyrich bluntly articulated . “I don’t want everybody to vote,” he said. “Elections are not won by a majority of the people. They never have been from the beginning of our country and they are not now. As a matter of fact, our leverage in the elections quite candidly goes up as the voting populace goes down.”
If you believe the various pieces of legislation passed by Iowa and Georgia are really designed to improve access to the polls, I can’t convince you otherwise, Swag.
Personally I’ve never had a problem going to vote. I just chose not to. Plus you didn’t really say what measures were taken.
Swag, you’re not going to be convinced by me. Or anyone. Again, if you believe that all the legislation was designed around 1) ensuring election integrity (when no systematic fraud has been found) and 2) increase access to the polls, I can’t help you.
But let Stacey Abrams tell you why the Georgia legislation specially targets POC and their access to the polls:
lolYou don't need a hidden camera to find the libs voter corruption they proudly crow about HR1 so........
They believe in putting money in their pockets. They don't give a shit about anything else.I wonder what they actually believe. Like... they obviously believe in their mission, they believe it must be advantageous. But do they really think they're fixing important problems? Addressing democratic cheating?
The video cutup is a little conflicting since it shows what seems to be contradictory behavior. I wish I had the whole thing.
Or choose not to objectively listen. Your choice.Ok doc
In real time. Just like we all know. What an evil bitch. Thinking she's funny. Yeah, I truly loathe these evil people. Thanks to Manchin we aren't going to get that desperately needed legislation passed. Republicans know EXACTLY what they're doing. The rest of us have to vote like our WW2 Veterans fought against tyranny. It's up to us to save the country from authoritarian rule. It's plain as day.
Or choose not to objectively listen. Your choice.
Glancing through it, I don't see too much to object about. Why not modernize the process and allow everybody to register online with some sort of identification?
You didn’t say anything just that measures were past to restrict voting.
Yeah, they're talking about educating poor kids there. JFC. The woman is talking about having to block HR 1.Nobody in video mentions voter suppression. The narrator does.
The same Stacy Abrams that says she lost the Georgia governor’s race BEFORE this legislation ?Swag, you’re not going to be convinced by me. Or anyone. Again, if you believe that all the legislation was designed around 1) ensuring election integrity (when no systematic fraud has been found) and 2) increasing access to the polls, I can’t help you.
But let Stacey Abrams tell you why the Georgia legislation specially targets POC and their access to the polls:
HR 1 is garbageYeah, they're talking about educating poor kids there. JFC. The woman is talking about having to block HR 1.
I'm guessing you would know what garbage is.The same Stacy Abrams that says she lost the Georgia governor’s race BEFORE this legislation ?
HR 1 is garbage
No. Creating legislation that makes it harder to vote is garbage...because some people don't want some people to vote.The same Stacy Abrams that says she lost the Georgia governor’s race BEFORE this legislation ?
HR 1 is garbage
The same Stacy Abrams that says she lost the Georgia governor’s race BEFORE this legislation ?
HR 1 is garbage
Facts don't matter to the authoritarian crowd.Your words...they don’t make sense.
Stacey Abrams lost the 2018 race for the Georgia governor’s office by 55,000 votes. Before the election, her opponent (the GA Sec or State who oversaw that same election) removed 500,000 people from the rolls - a disproportionate number of POC. Abrams acknowledged Kemp as the winner of the election but took issue with Kemp’s management of the rolls.
So what’s the dispute?