Hillary is much better/greater than Trump, Carson...

[Torg]

...and all of the Republicans.

She just spent 11 hours being grilled by the partisan committee. Trump and Carson wouldn't/couldn't stand and debate within their own party for over 2 hours. Total wimps.

The Republicans on the committee would maybe spend a 1/2 hour grilling her and then got to rest, while another tag team member went after her. She was all by herself. No one to take over for her.

I am a big Bernie fan, but I now have more respect for our future president. Thanks committee.

 

[herk90]

...and all of the Republicans.

She just spent 11 hours being grilled by the partisan committee. Trump and Carson wouldn't/couldn't stand and debate within their own party for over 2 hours. Total wimps.

The Republicans on the committee would maybe spend a 1/2 hour grilling her and then got to rest, while another tag team member went after her. She was all by herself. No one to take over for her.

I am a big Bernie fan, but I now have more respect for our future president. Thanks committee.

Simple question. Does it matter to you that the administration knew it was a planned attack the night it happened but yet lied to the country for days following the attack? While the while administration couldn't wait to get in front of a microphone to say it was a video, Hillary bested them while doing it in the hangar with 4 coffins in front of her when she knew it wasn't true. that email today that she wrote within 18 hours where she clearly states it was a planned attack shows that her and this administration lied for politics and then complains that the Republicans are being political. Really?

 

[SCHawkFan]

What difference does it make?

 

[Torg]

Simple question. Does it matter to you that the administration knew it was a planned attack the night it happened but yet lied to the country for days following the attack? While the while administration couldn't wait to get in front of a microphone to say it was a video, Hillary bested them while doing it in the hangar with 4 coffins in front of her when she knew it wasn't true. that email today that she wrote within 18 hours where she clearly states it was a planned attack shows that her and this administration lied for politics and then complains that the Republicans are being political. Really?

You people are insane. If Reagan was a Democrat when the Marine barracks were bombed he would have been crucified by today's Republicans.

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[binsfeldcyhawk2]

...and all of the Republicans.

She just spent 11 hours being grilled by the partisan committee. Trump and Carson wouldn't/couldn't stand and debate within their own party for over 2 hours. Total wimps.

The Republicans on the committee would maybe spend a 1/2 hour grilling her and then got to rest, while another tag team member went after her. She was all by herself. No one to take over for her.

I am a big Bernie fan, but I now have more respect for our future president. Thanks committee.

Which is a pretty big indictment on our current system. Hillary Clinton is the best we can do......think about that.

 

[naturalmwa]

Which is a pretty big indictment on our current system. Hillary Clinton is the best we can do......think about that.

Things like this are the reason no sane person would want to be President. We treat our representatives like crap.

 

[22*43*51]

Yes.

However, being the world's tallest midget isn't much of an accomplishment.

 

[shank hawk]

...and all of the Republicans.

She just spent 11 hours being grilled by the partisan committee. Trump and Carson wouldn't/couldn't stand and debate within their own party for over 2 hours. Total wimps.

The Republicans on the committee would maybe spend a 1/2 hour grilling her and then got to rest, while another tag team member went after her. She was all by herself. No one to take over for her.

I am a big Bernie fan, but I now have more respect for our future president. Thanks committee.

She sure is greater/better than Trump, Carson, et al.

In the same way being eaten alive by wild hogs is greater/better than being eaten alive by a pack of pit bulls.

It's all a matter of perspective.

 

[22*43*51]

Hillary could earn the RNC nomination if she'd but ask.

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

Things like this are the reason no sane person would want to be President. We treat our representatives like crap.

True...but they mostly deserve it.

I just think many folks probably enter politics for noble reasons...they end up being corrupted by the system. In order to raise the $$$$ and backing of the established parties they end up backing policies they probably don't really believe in...once they start doing that, they're pretty much establishment.

I just get sick of looking at the candidates and picking the one I think will do the least damage. Always thought a viable 3rd/4th party was the only way out of the current mess but....ain't gonna happen.

 

[timinatoria]

You people are insane. If Reagan was a Democrat when the Marine barracks were bombed he would have been crucified by today's Republicans.

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Translation....no, it doesn't matter to Torg.

 

[Torg]

Seems like no one disputes that she is better/greater than Trump/Carson.

Works for me.

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[22*43*51]

Seems like no one disputes that she is better/greater than Trump/Carson.

Works for me.

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It's not disputed.

It only works for me because she is a DINO.

 

[naturalmwa]

Simple question. Does it matter to you that the administration knew it was a planned attack the night it happened but yet lied to the country for days following the attack? While the while administration couldn't wait to get in front of a microphone to say it was a video, Hillary bested them while doing it in the hangar with 4 coffins in front of her when she knew it wasn't true. that email today that she wrote within 18 hours where she clearly states it was a planned attack shows that her and this administration lied for politics and then complains that the Republicans are being political. Really?

When you get a moment could you link to support of your argument. The parts I saw failed to make this case.

 

[MemorialRedWarrior]

Things like this are the reason no sane person would want to be President. We treat our representatives like crap.

Interesting.

 

[shank hawk]

Seems like no one disputes that she is better/greater than Trump/Carson.

Works for me.

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You don't comprehend very well, do you?

She's not better/greater than Trump/Carson: she's = Trump/Carson. That's not a choice.

Let's consider the following scenario as a metaphor for American politics. A gang of thugs breaks down your door late one evening. With menacing faces and loaded guns pointed right between your eyes, they offer you a similar 'choice'.

They are either going to beat you senseless, sodomize your wife and burn your house down, OR steal all your possessions, rape your daughter and kidnap your son, whom you may/may not ever see again.

That, my friend, sums up the essence of our 'choice' of politicians. If Colin Powell had done the exact same things Hillary has done in office the Repugnant-clans would be defending him with the same ferociousness that they are using to attack her.

Liars, sociopaths and hypocrites: one and all. Yet we choose to worship them and ignore their crimes based on an R or a D behind their names.

 

[Torg]

You don't comprehend very well, do you?

She's not better/greater than Trump/Carson: she's = Trump/Carson. That's not a choice.

Let's consider the following scenario as a metaphor for American politics. A gang of thugs breaks down your door late one evening. With menacing faces and loaded guns pointed right between your eyes, they offer you a similar 'choice'.

They are either going to beat you senseless, sodomize your wife and burn your house down, OR steal all your possessions, rape your daughter and kidnap your son, whom you may/may not ever see again.

That, my friend, sums up the essence of our 'choice' of politicians. If Colin Powell had done the exact same things Hillary has done in office the Repugnant-clans would be defending him with the same ferociousness that they are using to attack her.

Liars, sociopaths and hypocrites: one and all. Yet we choose to worship them and ignore their crimes based on an R or a D behind their names.

Spoken like a true Republican. They are all crooks and liars.

Republicans want folks to believe they are all the same. It just is not true. Hillary is certainly not perfect but she is way better than any of the Republican. Bernie is way better than all of them.

Who in the world would you like to see in power/office?

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[herk90]

When you get a moment could you link to support of your argument. The parts I saw failed to make this case.

Um.. there was were three emails from hillary to chelsea and two dictators saying it was a terrorist attack. One of the emails said it had nothing to do with the video. Yet, she was still putting out the video excuse a couple days later. Are you not smart enough to put that together?

 

[herk90]

When you get a moment could you link to support of your argument. The parts I saw failed to make this case.

Here is a little something for you to ponder.

We know the attack in Libya had nothing to do with the film,” Jordan read out from Clinton’s email. “It was a planned attack. Not a protest. Let me read that one more time. We know, not we think, not it might be, we know the attack in Libya had nothing to do with a film. It was a planned attack. Not a protest. State Department experts knew the truth. You knew the truth, but that’s not what the American people got. Again, the American people want to know why. Why didn’t you tell the American people exactly what you told the Egyptian prime minister?”

 

[herk90]

When you get a moment could you link to support of your argument. The parts I saw failed to make this case.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...2wXpes&usg=AFQjCNFMqX2wmjgCYBX65L7fYSXDYty2gQ

 

[herk90]

Any questions smartass?

 

[augHAWK]

Hillary is certainly not perfect but she is way better than any of the Republican. Bernie is way better than all of them.

Who in the world would you like to see in power/office?

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Bernie sucks. We don't need to slide any further toward socialism. The slide in that direction we've had the last seven years has done enough damage to our country. And Hillary? Are you serious? Are any of you serious? She has no integrity whatsoever and it's clear to anyone with eyes and ears that she's crooked.

This love for Hillary, despite all the evidence of her malfeasance and actions designed solely to promote her own interests without regard for the consequences really baffles me. It certainly supports one clear truth: while the ends matter to both conservatives and liberals, the means seem to matter only to conservatives.

 

[rocketclone]

Spoken like a true Republican. They are all crooks and liars.

Republicans want folks to believe they are all the same. It just is not true. Hillary is certainly not perfect but she is way better than any of the Republican. Bernie is way better than all of them.

Who in the world would you like to see in power/office?

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Spoken like a true democrat. Isn't this fun. He made a pretty good point. I don't like Carson or trump as candidates either. Why don't the dems throw someone like joe manchin out there. Main reason is the party has lurched so far to the left he can't win. Same problem as republicans moving to right.

I hope Bernie wins, I am rooting for him.

 

[jscott78]

Yep, she administered a devastating blow to the wing and the gop. Congratulations, Madame President Clinton.

...and all of the Republicans.

She just spent 11 hours being grilled by the partisan committee. Trump and Carson wouldn't/couldn't stand and debate within their own party for over 2 hours. Total wimps.

The Republicans on the committee would maybe spend a 1/2 hour grilling her and then got to rest, while another tag team member went after her. She was all by herself. No one to take over for her.

I am a big Bernie fan, but I now have more respect for our future president. Thanks committee.

 

[timinatoria]

Yep, she administered a devastating blow to the wing and the gop. Congratulations, Madame President Clinton.

 

[soybean]

Um.. there was were three emails from hillary to chelsea and two dictators saying it was a terrorist attack. One of the emails said it had nothing to do with the video. Yet, she was still putting out the video excuse a couple days later. Are you not smart enough to put that together?

Herk - Let's assume for a moment that you are correct about that...what then is the point?

 

[soybean]

Bernie sucks. We don't need to slide any further toward socialism. The slide in that direction we've had the last seven years has done enough damage to our country. And Hillary? Are you serious? Are any of you serious? She has no integrity whatsoever and it's clear to anyone with eyes and ears that she's crooked.

This love for Hillary, despite all the evidence of her malfeasance and actions designed solely to promote her own interests without regard for the consequences really baffles me. It certainly supports one clear truth: while the ends matter to both conservatives and liberals, the means seem to matter only to conservatives.

Please tells us what proof of that you have?

 

[naturalmwa]

Any questions smartass?

Not yet, thank you.

 

[theiacowtipper]

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CCEQtwIwAmoVChMIh8PdyfPXyAIVBCweCh05nAbA&url=http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QSooz2wXpes&usg=AFQjCNFMqX2wmjgCYBX65L7fYSXDYty2gQ

So let's say that she believed it was a terrorist attack. There is no question, absolutely none, confirmed by multiple congressional investigations, that the CIA initially though it was related to the video. Was she really supposed to contradict the narrative put out there by the administration? One that she was a part of? Do you think a politician in today's society would contradict the president, just before an election?

Again, I, and other posters one the board have said, this committee greatest accomplishment, with a huge benefit of the doubt, is to discover that politicians spin bad news. Do you consider that a good use of taxpayer dollars?

 

[Lone Clone]

...and all of the Republicans.

She just spent 11 hours being grilled by the partisan committee. Trump and Carson wouldn't/couldn't stand and debate within their own party for over 2 hours. Total wimps.

The Republicans on the committee would maybe spend a 1/2 hour grilling her and then got to rest, while another tag team member went after her. She was all by herself. No one to take over for her.

I am a big Bernie fan, but I now have more respect for our future president. Thanks committee.

1. You are quoting Rachel Maddow, of course.
2. Hillary definitely kicked ass in many respects. Her supporters don't care about the lies and incompetence, and the general public doesn't know enough about it to give a shit one way or the other. They see the Republicans being mean to a girl.

 

[shank hawk]

Spoken like a true Republican. They are all crooks and liars.

Republicans want folks to believe they are all the same. It just is not true. Hillary is certainly not perfect but she is way better than any of the Republican. Bernie is way better than all of them.

Who in the world would you like to see in power/office?

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Yeah. I'm a true republican.

I don't want to give people power to lord it over me. The problem is half the people in this country desire to be ruled: like children.

I don't want people to tell me how much money they need from me. I don't want to be told what I can smoke or who I can poke/marry. I don't want them invading sovereign nations and killing people in my name. I don't want to have to buy licenses for and register everything I own. I don't want to have to fear fines or jail time every time I might slip up and violate one of the queen's millions of stupid laws.

Are you a helpless child that needs to be led through life by the hand?

 

[JupiterHawk]

You know what? I was very unsure about Hillary but I was impressed after watching several hours of the proceedings yesterday. I mean it's one thing to spend 10 minutes questioning someone but she spent 9+ hours answering those questions. I flipped it over to fox news and they would only show when a republican was questioning her with the captions "Jordan grilling Clinton on Benghazi" then go back to regular programming. Very balanced.

The worst line of questioning for me was the Alabama congress woman? WTF was she thinking? Hillary is working at home so therefore she does not care?? M\y god. And why didn't they include other key members like Petraeus for example?? It's time to put this one to bed.

 

[naturalmwa]

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CCEQtwIwAmoVChMIh8PdyfPXyAIVBCweCh05nAbA&url=http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QSooz2wXpes&usg=AFQjCNFMqX2wmjgCYBX65L7fYSXDYty2gQ

This video doesn't say what you need it to say. She says there were video caused protests that lead to attacks of several embassies in several nations which was true IIRC.

There were indeed protests going on for hours at Benghazi too. It wasn't all quiet until the terrorists showed up and attacked. I know because I was in an online game with Sean Smith that night and he talked about how loud and crazy it was outside. Even joked that if he didn't respond right away it might be because he was getting the dead. It was all very surreal the next week when I realized the online personality was this real guy.

This entire narrative that politicians lie to cover up a terrorist attack is beyond stupid. Americans rally when we are attacked. If Obama came out and said we were attacked in Libya and we are sending the Marines, his numbers would have gone up, not down. You're going to need to find a real reason not to like this lady, your swiftboating isn't going to work.

 

[thewop]

1. You are quoting Rachel Maddow, of course.

You raise a good point. I think we need some HROT ground rules for who can be used as legit sources. Rachel Maddow from the D's, and Rush Limbaugh from the R's are two who should be eliminated from discussion at all times. There are many others who should be ruled "off limits," because they can't open their mouths without extreme bias, it's what they're paid to do and they're good at their jobs.

 

[rocketclone]

This video doesn't say what you need it to say. She says there were video caused protests that lead to attacks of several embassies in several nations which was true IIRC.

There were indeed protests going on for hours at Benghazi too. It wasn't all quiet until the terrorists showed up and attacked. I know because I was in an online game with Sean Smith that night and he talked about how loud and crazy it was outside. Even joked that if he didn't respond right away it might be because he was getting the dead. It was all very surreal the next week when I realized the online personality was this real guy.

This entire narrative that politicians lie to cover up a terrorist attack is beyond stupid. Americans rally when we are attacked. If Obama came out and said we were attacked in Libya and we are sending the Marines, his numbers would have gone up, not down. You're going to need to find a real reason not to like this lady, your swiftboating isn't going to work.

Unfortunately Natural, you are stuck. You have questioned the Republicans on numerous occasions about their choice for Speaker of the House etc. I think it is great what is going on in the Republican Party. A debate on many choices that have to be made and who do we want as out candidate. I don't like Trump or Carson. Not personal but as candidates.

We have a choice of people to pick from. You guy are stuck. You have one person to pick from with 3 candidates who quite honestly have no business being candidates.

So you are stuck with Hillary and I know you have to defend her to all ends so the Dems stay in charge. The bottom line is the woman is plain crooked. She hides things so people can't see what is going on. She lied because of politics and quite frankly a lot of people don't trust her.

So you are stuck, with no choices and the same left wing rhetoric of tax the rich that will solve everything, take care of everyone by giving them free stuff, a baby isn't a bay until it leaves the hospital.....etc etc.

A party lacking in ideas and wanting to go back to the days when everyone had 180 acres and we need to be "organic". No ideas just rhetoric that continues and no one with any ideas.

 

[moral_victory]

Bernie sucks. We don't need to slide any further toward socialism. The slide in that direction we've had the last seven years has done enough damage to our country.

Funny I feel we have gone more towards capitalism and austerity. The TPP he is working so hard to ram down our throats is not a socialist measure for the citizenry. Outside of the health insurance law (tongue-in-cheek); where have we gone more towards socialism? What new socialist programs has he started? When did he end Reaganomics? When did the tide of money keep going to the top and get redistributed?

 

[Titanhawk2]

...and all of the Republicans.

She just spent 11 hours being grilled by the partisan committee. Trump and Carson wouldn't/couldn't stand and debate within their own party for over 2 hours. Total wimps.

The Republicans on the committee would maybe spend a 1/2 hour grilling her and then got to rest, while another tag team member went after her. She was all by herself. No one to take over for her.

I am a big Bernie fan, but I now have more respect for our future president. Thanks committee.

Right, we need someone who can sit on their rump for 11 hours running the country

 

[Lone Clone]

This video doesn't say what you need it to say. She says there were video caused protests that lead to attacks of several embassies in several nations which was true IIRC.

There were indeed protests going on for hours at Benghazi too. It wasn't all quiet until the terrorists showed up and attacked. I know because I was in an online game with Sean Smith that night and he talked about how loud and crazy it was outside. Even joked that if he didn't respond right away it might be because he was getting the dead. It was all very surreal the next week when I realized the online personality was this real guy.

This entire narrative that politicians lie to cover up a terrorist attack is beyond stupid. Americans rally when we are attacked. If Obama came out and said we were attacked in Libya and we are sending the Marines, his numbers would have gone up, not down. You're going to need to find a real reason not to like this lady, your swiftboating isn't going to work.

The ambassador didn't know there were protests going on at Banghazi. Nobody but you appears to have known this was happening, based on the testimony. And it's been made abundantly clear that the attack on the embassy was not spontaneous. Even Hillary concedes that.

 

[naturalmwa]

The ambassador didn't know there were protests going on at Banghazi. Nobody but you appears to have known this was happening, based on the testimony. And it's been made abundantly clear that the attack on the embassy was not spontaneous. Even Hillary concedes that.

The compound police and the Sean Smith knew it because he was in the game chatting about it. If the ambassador didn't, then maybe that's where the blame should be. It wasn't a quiet night that was interrupted with mortars exploding and an assault. From Sean's description is was loud for several hours before he had his life actually in danger.

ON TUESDAY, SEAN Smith, a Foreign Service Information Management Officer assigned to the American consulate in Benghazi, Libya, typed a message to the director of his online gaming guild: “Assuming we don’t die tonight. We saw one of our ‘police’ that guard the compound taking pictures.” The consulate was under siege, and within hours, a mob would attack, killing Smith along with three others, including the U.S. ambassador.
http://www.wired.com/2012/09/vilerat/