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Hillary Clinton has a new ad out where a young girl asks her if she'll get the same pay as a male President.
Extremely effective ad. I've posted many times she is not my first choice, but she hit a home run with this ad. She hits a core issue with women, she looks warm and caring with a touch of fighter thrown in. And, you got a cute kid asking the question. Dynamite ad. Too bad she didn't save it for the general.
 
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Hillary Clinton has a new ad out where a young girl asks her if she'll get the same pay as a male President.
Extremely effective ad. I've posted many times she is not my first choice, but she hit a home run with this ad. She hits a core issue with women, she looks warm and caring with a touch of fighter thrown in. And, you got a cute kid asking the question. Dynamite ad. Too bad she didn't save it for the general.

Gender pay is just one of the many fairy tales spewed by the Democrats. Account for type of job, education, and experience and there is no statistical difference between males and females.
 
Gender pay is just one of the many fairy tales spewed by the Democrats. Account for type of job, education, and experience and there is no statistical difference between males and females.

It's exhausting how many times this has to be pointed out.

It will be Hillary's "Gruber" sound bite.

You know, where she'll "rely on the stupidity of the American public" to believe it and act on it.
 
Gender pay is just one of the many fairy tales spewed by the Democrats. Account for type of job, education, and experience and there is no statistical difference between males and females.

Its been a while, why don't you post your irrefutable statistical link for me?
 
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The reason that men and women average different wages are three-fold.

(1) Occupations dominated by women tend to pay lower than the median for similar academic qualifications (think nurses and teachers vs. tech guys for example).

(2) Women aren't attracted to high-paying but high-danger occupations to the same extent as men.

(3) Women tend to be more likely to interrupt their careers for child-raising, which puts them behind on the career ladder.

I can't think of any acceptable action the government could take to correct these realities. Maybe they could force women to become high-rise welders and come back to work immediately after childbirth?
 
The reason that men and women average different wages are three-fold.

(1) Occupations dominated by women tend to pay lower than the median for similar academic qualifications (think nurses and teachers vs. tech guys for example).

(2) Women aren't attracted to high-paying but high-danger occupations to the same extent as men.

(3) Women tend to be more likely to interrupt their careers for child-raising, which puts them behind on the career ladder.

I can't think of any acceptable action the government could take to correct these realities. Maybe they could force women to become high-rise welders and come back to work immediately after childbirth?

And women on average are likely not as aggressive in salary negotiations. This is one issue that I think the democrats stretch way too far.
 
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Hillary Clinton has a new ad out where a young girl asks her if she'll get the same pay as a male President.
Extremely effective ad. I've posted many times she is not my first choice, but she hit a home run with this ad. She hits a core issue with women, she looks warm and caring with a touch of fighter thrown in. And, you got a cute kid asking the question. Dynamite ad. Too bad she didn't save it for the general.

What is Hillary going to do about it? What's her plan? And don't we already have many laws on the books to prevent pay discrimination against women?
 
The Bureau of Labor Statistics said in 2012, unmarried women with no children, made 96% of what men made. 4% is almost within the margin of error.

Hillary’s bigger problem will be explaining to women why she enabled a sexual predator for 40 years.
 
The reason that men and women average different wages are three-fold.

(1) Occupations dominated by women tend to pay lower than the median for similar academic qualifications (think nurses and teachers vs. tech guys for example).

(2) Women aren't attracted to high-paying but high-danger occupations to the same extent as men.

(3) Women tend to be more likely to interrupt their careers for child-raising, which puts them behind on the career ladder.

I can't think of any acceptable action the government could take to correct these realities. Maybe they could force women to become high-rise welders and come back to work immediately after childbirth?
It isn't doing a different job, it's that women are paid less for doing the same job. Points 1 and 2 are invalid for this reason. Point 3 doesn't go over very well with the female voters, including moderate Republican females who will be tempted to vote for Hillary over the Republican candidate who smugly insists that gals just aren't cut out for higher paying jobs, or that deciding to have that kid was their decision, so live with the lower paycheck and like it.
 
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It isn't doing a different job, it's that women are paid less for doing the same job. Points 1 and 2 are invalid for this reason. Point 3 doesn't go over very well with the female voters, including moderate Republican females who will be tempted to vote for Hillary over the Republican candidate who smugly insists that gals just aren't cut out for higher paying jobs, or that deciding to have that kid was their decision, so live with the lower paycheck and like it.

No, you're wrong. Try again.

Wanna know why teachers and nurses pay lags "male dominated" jobs? BECAUSE THERE'S TOO MANY DAMN TEACHERS AND NURSES. Girls grow up thinking, "I want to work with kids" or "I want to help sick kids get better" and flood the market with education and nursing degrees. If women would get smart and say, "no thanks" to these jobs, then supply and demand would work it's magic, and teaching and nursing jobs would be high-paid professions.

But women don't do that. They bitch and moan about how "unfair" it is, and vote for Hillary.

As for the last point, why don't women make the husbands stay home and watch the kids?

(hint: they don't want to do that, so rinse and repeat)
 
I thought it was the most ridiculous TV ad for a presidential candidate I've ever seen. I am fairly certain little girls nationwide aren't losing any sleep at night over their future pay inequities.

The next commercial no doubt will be a toddler asking if Hillary is going to tax the rich hard and reign in Wall Street like she promised. "Don't you worry little girl, I'll save you from the mean ol' republicans!"
 
It isn't doing a different job, it's that women are paid less for doing the same job. Points 1 and 2 are invalid for this reason. Point 3 doesn't go over very well with the female voters, including moderate Republican females who will be tempted to vote for Hillary over the Republican candidate who smugly insists that gals just aren't cut out for higher paying jobs, or that deciding to have that kid was their decision, so live with the lower paycheck and like it.
No, they are not. The data does not support that claim. What the data say is if you took all the money made by men and divided by the number of men who earned it, and then took all the money made by women and divided by the number of women who earned it, you come up with a 23% difference (the real difference is closer to 16%). No consideration for hours worked. No consideration for education. No consideration for experience. No consideration for male-dominated fields vs. female-dominated fields.
All the data I’ve seen says that college educated, unmarried, childless women actually make somewhere between 5%-8% more than their male counterparts. Who is fighting for these men who are clearly being discriminated against?
And for the record, the top male models make about 30% what the top female models make. Where’s the outrage?
 
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No, they are not. The data does not support that claim. What the data say is if you took all the money made by men and divided by the number of men who earned it, and then took all the money made by women and divided by the number of women who earned it, you come up with a 23% difference (the real difference is closer to 16%). No consideration for hours worked. No consideration for education. No consideration for experience. No consideration for male-dominated fields vs. female-dominated fields.
All the date I’ve seen says that college educated, unmarried, childless women actually make somewhere between 5%-8% more than men their male counterparts. Who is fighting for these men who are clearly being discriminated against?
And for the record, the top male models make about 30% what the top female models make. Where’s the outrage?
Preach brother! Now how about some pics of those oppressed models?
 
The reason that men and women average different wages are three-fold.

(1) Occupations dominated by women tend to pay lower than the median for similar academic qualifications (think nurses and teachers vs. tech guys for example).

(2) Women aren't attracted to high-paying but high-danger occupations to the same extent as men.

(3) Women tend to be more likely to interrupt their careers for child-raising, which puts them behind on the career ladder.

I can't think of any acceptable action the government could take to correct these realities. Maybe they could force women to become high-rise welders and come back to work immediately after childbirth?
Don't suppose you were around when women were hired with lower starting pay because they MIGHT have children.
 
This is not an endorsement of Hillary, but you're blind if you don't admit the brilliance of that ad. I'll go so far as to admire that work. I don't know how many, but there were plural sharp people behind that ad (for the sheer politics - the matter of truth on the issue will vary from person-to-person - I happen to think women are doing fine in the workplace but I work in an entry-level corporate environment and anyone who doesn't suck lasts here - will check back in if I last longer).
 
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Here's the ad I'm waiting to see:

Secretary Clinton, you said during the primaries that your biggest enemy was “Republicans.” I think that your comment provides the voters with a perfect example of how we differ. I’m a Republican, and, on some of the issues at least, I have some disagreements with the Democratic party. But it is not my enemy. Those who vote for it aren’t my enemies. They’re my neighbors, my colleagues, my friends, the men and women who teach my children, the people I see every day all around my state. On November 8th of this year, I will be asking all Americans for their votes — Democrats, Republicans, independents, everybody. For far too long now we’ve had a political class that refuses to work together; that draws lines around itself based upon its party affiliation; that forgets why it was sent to serve. I want to end that. I want to lead this country into the future as the president of everybody — even those who aren’t sure about me. If you believe that half of the country is your enemy — if you believe that a majority of the people you’ll have to work with are your enemy — you won’t be able to do that. I will.


I'm Marco Rubio and I approved this message.
 
It isn't doing a different job, it's that women are paid less for doing the same job. Points 1 and 2 are invalid for this reason. Point 3 doesn't go over very well with the female voters, including moderate Republican females who will be tempted to vote for Hillary over the Republican candidate who smugly insists that gals just aren't cut out for higher paying jobs, or that deciding to have that kid was their decision, so live with the lower paycheck and like it.

So a process engineer with 20 years experience should make the same as a process engineer was that just hired upon graduation?

Regardless of gender. Do you really think this?
 
I thought the ad was pretty cheesy. Ya, some little girl in the front row with a set up question. I am looking forward to the hit ads on her. Can't wait to see the ones with the families saying she told us it was the videos when she knew it was a terrorist attack.
 
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So a process engineer with 20 years experience should make the same as a process engineer was that just hired upon graduation?

Regardless of gender. Do you really think this?
I doubt anybody thinking rationally would believe this.

However, wouldn't you believe that a male and female process engineer with equal experience (and equal performance evaluations, etc.) should be making the same salary? I certainly do.
 
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I doubt anybody thinking rationally would believe this.

However, wouldn't you believe that a male and female process engineer with equal experience (and equal performance evaluations, etc.) should be making the same salary? I certainly do.

Within a small margin, yes.

But, the study that is always cited doesn't use methodology that levels experience, seniority, work content, responsibility, leave of absennce etc.

So it's results are bogus. But, that doesn't mean it won't fuel Hillary's platform.
 
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Within a small margin, yes.

But, the study that is always cited doesn't use methodology that levels experience, seniority, work content, responsibility, leave of absennce etc.

So it's results are bogus. But, that doesn't mean it won't fuel Hillary's platform.
I agree with you, and that's why it is important for everyone to look at the methodology of any study before making firm conclusions.
 
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I am still waiting to see the answer about what Hillary is going to do about it?? Kind of like income inequality and all the other rhetoric. What are you going to do about it?
 
How do you prove it?

If a man and woman have same job title, and the woman has worked there longer than the man, and she gets paid less than you might have a case.

Of course there could be other justifiable factors even with that.

Just a bs Oprah type thing to yell and get votes. Zero chance anything will be done about it.
 
Hillary Clinton has a new ad out where a young girl asks her if she'll get the same pay as a male President.
Extremely effective ad. I've posted many times she is not my first choice, but she hit a home run with this ad. She hits a core issue with women, she looks warm and caring with a touch of fighter thrown in. And, you got a cute kid asking the question. Dynamite ad. Too bad she didn't save it for the general.

Ah, gender discrimination on pay is already against the law, and has been my entire working life which started in the 1970's. This proves that democrats are incredibly stupid voters, they actually believe this crap. Even 20 years ago, Rockwell looked at engineering pay, and found that women on average make 105% of what men make.

Look at it this way, Hillary is making this statement because she knows her voters are morons. She is insulting you and you don't even know it.
 
Hillary Clinton has a new ad out where a young girl asks her if she'll get the same pay as a male President.
Extremely effective ad. I've posted many times she is not my first choice, but she hit a home run with this ad. She hits a core issue with women, she looks warm and caring with a touch of fighter thrown in. And, you got a cute kid asking the question. Dynamite ad. Too bad she didn't save it for the general.
Of course she would, there's already laws against that not happening. So awesome
 
Gender pay is just one of the many fairy tales spewed by the Democrats. Account for type of job, education, and experience and there is no statistical difference between males and females.
Um, this isn't true. When to take into account all these issues, women still make around 90 cents on the dollar.
 
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Its been a while, why don't you post your irrefutable statistical link for me?

If you have spent any amount of time on this board, and looking at your post count I can see that you have, you would have seen it posted many times. If you want to continue to be a shill for the left and believe this lie then go ahead. Hillary is counting on dopes like you.

When you compare the pay of men and women simply by gender then there is a pay gap. But when you break down the numbers so you are comparing apples to apples that pay gap disappears.

But since you asked:

Wall Street Journal http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702303532704579483752909957472

CBS
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-gender-pay-gap-is-a-complete-myth/

Huffington Post
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/christina-hoff-sommers/wage-gap_b_2073804.html

Pew Research Center
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...ng-you-need-to-know-about-the-gender-pay-gap/

WSJ, again
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748704415104576250672504707048
 
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