How bad is our 2020 class?
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Last year's team making the 2nd round apparently didn't help this year, so keep dreaming. Fran has taken us as far as he can IMO. If last year's appearance netted us what we've gotten in the '20 class so far, being a low seed in the dance isn't going to move the needle.
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This is spot on....player rankings can certainly change by spring. If AU blows up, or the kid from Indiana...or if the Murray twins show the improvement of growing three inches, adding strength, and what skills/abilities that they showed playing against Iowa players all of their ratings could increase....
We could certainly still add someone else...I get it...I am disappointed with the ratings and apparent level of recruit...but we don't know yet how they will improve and mature between now and when they get to Iowa.
Gotta believe a lot of this stinker of a class has to do with Andrew Francis leaving. He was the guy for a lot of our big recruits
How do you know what class is better or the same. The 2020 class haven't played a game yet. Give it a rest or go cry in the corner. What the hell is wrong with some of you people. We didn't get one recruit so now you're ripping the guys we did get. The guys who actually want to play for Iowa.
To be fair I have been ripping Frans recruiting since 2014. I mean he has got a couple of good recruits but 10 years in you would want him getting solid recruits year in and year out
Iowa needs a big in this class bad. We are losing all but one of our big bodies this year and next. I feel safe with our 1-3’s .....
I completely disagree. They already have bigs coming in and they wont be needed to play big minutes until year 2.
Guards win games...that's what is needed.
Guards win games...that's what is needed.
Agreed, it's a guard's game. Having an interior presence is important, though, IMO. Foster would've been a big get.
No doubt on Foster.
However, the Murray boys will be big enough and they will be a year removed from high school, so by year 2 at Iowa they will each be 20 years old. I think they end up being quality players at Iowa.
QUOTE="TampaHawkfan, post: 7067153, member: 6596"]Agreed, it's a guard's game. Having an interior presence is important, though, IMO. Foster would've been a big get.[/QUOTE]
However, the Murray boys will be big enough and they will be a year removed from high school, so by year 2 at Iowa they will each be 20 years old. I think they end up being quality players at Iowa.
QUOTE="TampaHawkfan, post: 7067153, member: 6596"]Agreed, it's a guard's game. Having an interior presence is important, though, IMO. Foster would've been a big get.[/QUOTE]
Last time I looked the 247 crystal ball was 80/20 Georgetown/Iowa,... so based on that it does not look good...
Rankings wise, this class is worse than the 2007 and 2008 classes.
We didnt get one recruit? LOL!
This is a common theme from Fran. The chances of getting a highly ranked kid is extremely rare if the kid didnt grow up a Hawk fan or has the last name McCaffery. We cant even land the highly ranked kids that grew up Hawk fans at this point it appears.
Dont worry though, Fran tried really hard.
The above is pretty accurate from what I have watched the last 5 years.
Also, on paper this class looks rather modest. But, I am hopeful the Murray twins will surprise and Ulis will blossom into his brother to some extent. To be down on these guys before they play a second at Iowa is a bit rash IMO. At this point we can only hope they mature as basketball players in college.
Hope is not a strategy.
The Murray twins have put up monster numbers in their 1st few games, no idea about level of competition
Yeah, she says that to justify being with you probably. Thanks for the insight, much more valuable than all those p5 coaching staffs that didn't offer.
Agree, but maybe he does have a strategy. If not, he will be gone at some point and probably not soon enough for some folks.
If this 2020 class fails to mature and/or the Hawks BB goes south then he should be gone. And I am also growing impatient, but I do like the bloodlines of those three players and am hopeful that they will surprise.
"Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and f*** the prom queen."
-Sean Connery, The Rock
No I don't mind the class it would have been nice if we had Xavier Foster. That's the one thing that bugs me the kid was an Iowa fan his parents are Iowa fans but he was quoted as saying he thought Iowa State could do more for him. That's a hell of an indictment on our coaching staff
Four star recruits aren't going to come to Iowa when the coach and 2/5 of next year's starting lineup share the same last name
I’m not so sure either the 07 class and the 08 class were better ? Kick Gatens out because he was coming to iowa no matter who was coaching. The only guy that was solid was Cole.
It may appear that way but not that much difference....both play around .500 in conference and cant top the big Dawgs most of time but basketball actually plays people in the non conference and cant hide in the west. Basketball doesn't get a higher seed because the fans show up like football getting to better bowls than they deserve cuz of fans (only to have coach rip those "common fans" when they question him). It's much easier to make a bowl than tourney. Our standard 8-5 in football equals 18-12 in a 30ish game basketball schedule....very franlike.
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Murray twins are a huge reach. They are nowhere near P5 players. Fran was either impressed by Western Illinois interest in the twins, or he was trying to entice Foster by adding his friends, or he is just not good at recruiting.
Why will recruiting be better for the class if 2021? Iowa will be recruiting off of a 20 plus loss season with a head coach over the age of 60.
I actually like the two guards in this class. Add them to C.J. and Joe T and it might be an upgrade on athleticism, ability to play D and create on offense. We’ve tried going big many years, but going small with Joe W and one post could be interesting. I know its hard to see when things look so grim but better guard potential is long overdue imo.
Peterson had a Xavier offer and Kelly had offers from Virginia, ISU, Dayton and Penn State. Those are all better offers than any kid in the 2020 class has to this point.
You cant just kick a kid out of the class to help your argument unless you dont give credit to Fran for landing both his sons and Wieskamp.
Agreed, with one slight change. Football is mired in mediocrity, b-ball is pure shit.
Just talking class rank right now. We can wait 4 and a half years to see how their careers as Hawkeyes play out.
2 Honest questions -
1. Do you think we would be better off with the Dr. Tom era now than where we currently are?
2. How do you propose we become a winner? Who do you see drastically changing our outcomes, and besides Gonzaga, show me a program that has significantly rose out of mediocrity and maintained it and won at the highest levels?
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