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How bad is our 2020 class?

Well with Ogundele the class has now addressed every floor position,... time will tell...
 
I actually like the two guards in this class. Add them to C.J. and Joe T and it might be an upgrade on athleticism, ability to play D and create on offense. We’ve tried going big many years, but going small with Joe W and one post could be interesting. I know its hard to see when things look so grim but better guard potential is long overdue imo.

this statement is the weird part about recruiting. I mean you like them but no other major coach likes them and they have seen them against other guys. If Fran has a habit of signing unknown players I would get it. Some are bound to be under the radar but no way out of five players you might get one that works.
 
Personally, as a rule of thumb, I think it may be a good idea to not trash our recruits until they at least prove they aren't worthy of their scholarships. And even then, we're talking about young men, who all hope to have promising careers and have chosen Iowa to make their stand.

Now, if you want to trash Coach McCaffery, well, as the saying goes, he a grown man.
 
Personally, as a rule of thumb, I think it may be a good idea to not trash our recruits until they at least prove they aren't worthy of their scholarships. And even then, we're talking about young men, who all hope to have promising careers and have chosen Iowa to make their stand.

Now, if you want to trash Coach McCaffery, well, as the saying goes, he a grown man.
Can we trash the coaches kids since the cheap skate wont use some of his overpaid salary on them?
:)
 
Just going by offers this has to be in the level of 2014 or 2015 if not worse, right?

Hopefully I’m wrong

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What are you bitching about, Roy. The 2020 class doesn’t have a single white dude. Ya got what you asked for.
114 4* seniors and we can’t land one?!?! Hell, Butler has two! Not recruiting white guys is a start, but we won’t be competitive until we get more 4* players. I didn’t mention the 5*s as I don’t think we’ll land a 5* b-ball player in my lifetime....it could be the University presidents son, and he would go elsewhere.
 
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114 4* seniors and we can’t land one?!?! Hell, Butler has two! Not recruiting white guys is a start, but we won’t be competitive until we get more 4* players. I didn’t mention the 5*s as I don’t think we’ll land a 5* b-ball player in my lifetime....it could be the University presidents son, and he would go elsewhere.

I was just giving you some grief. I’m with you, shockingly, that Fran has no excuses this far into his tenure to put together a class like this. Not one top 150 player? A class with very few P5 offers? Nah, that’s simply not going to cut it in the B1G. Those arguing that stars or offers don’t matter.....that’s denial talking.
 
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Can we trash the coaches kids since the cheap skate wont use some of his overpaid salary on them?
:)

Of course not! Would you want to be held responsible for everything your parents ever did? How is that fair to the McCaffery kids? They are simply living their dream to pay basketball for their dad.
 
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114 4* seniors and we can’t land one?!?! Hell, Butler has two! Not recruiting white guys is a start, but we won’t be competitive until we get more 4* players. I didn’t mention the 5*s as I don’t think we’ll land a 5* b-ball player in my lifetime....it could be the University presidents son, and he would go elsewhere.
You're too wrapped up in the stars Roy.
 
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I’m not so sure either the 07 class and the 08 class were better ? Kick Gatens out because he was coming to iowa no matter who was coaching. The only guy that was solid was Cole.

Jake Kelly was pretty solid too, but I wouldn’t consider them Lickliter’s recruits. All three, plus Gatens were Alford recruits.

Lick did have a decent class coming in when he was fired, but Brust had already opened his recruitment up and had no plans of committing to Lick. The same could be said for Larson.
 
Who else are you looking to throw under the bus? I've heard the AD, the coaches, some of the recruits, etc. Seems some on here are forever bitchers and always needing to fill the glass to overflow. I was remembering Veterans Day earlier this week and all those millions of vets who served and many died so we have the freedom to to say almost anything we choose using whatever media available, and usually in complete anonymity. For over seventy years I've been a Hawk fan in good years and some not so, whether at bowl games, the baseball diamond, the track and in Carver for bball and wrestling, etc.
And for all of it, I've enjoyed the ride and look forward to continue this entertainment. :)
 
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Star ratings not great. I actually think this is an average class for Iowa. I like it better than most. The Twins will be be solid starting/ rotational players. I actually think Ulis is going to be a very solid player/ PG. Perkins seems to be a tweener to me, that currently I don't think is going to make it. But 3/4 pretty decent players. No can't miss studs, but I don't think Foster was a can't miss player. I think the murray twins have the potential to outperform him over 4 years, although Foster has the higher potential for the pros being a 7 footer.

I'm actually highest on Perkins at the moment... He has some ups. We will see... Very intrigued about the twins. The growth spurt is a very good thing. I'll be following them at DME.

Ulis and Josh O look to have some skills. Although they need to move a little quicker, more hustle. Focus on the Defense. Please...and thank you!
 
I always thought our facilities were hurting us in recruiting top talent but now not sure what is holding us back.
We once again struck out on every top target.
Prohm nailed two of his top three targets.
If we could just have landed the two legacy targets,Carton and X, the whole program would be jazzed.
This class could bury Fran.
LOL!

BTW, where are Prohm and his "top three targets"?
 
No doubt on Foster.

However, the Murray boys will be big enough and they will be a year removed from high school, so by year 2 at Iowa they will each be 20 years old. I think they end up being quality players at Iowa.


QUOTE="TampaHawkfan, post: 7067153, member: 6596"]Agreed, it's a guard's game. Having an interior presence is important, though, IMO. Foster would've been a big get.
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Good guess!

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To be fair to myself I did say “Hopefully I’m wrong”

I will eat my crow sandwich right now. Glad this class has been productive
Productive . . . wow, I gave you a thumbs up, but right now we are looking at least 1 NBA likely 2 out of this class. This went from from a fireable class to one of the top 10 recruiting classes potentially in Hawkeye history.
 
Crazy to think we were bitching about missing out on Carton the year before who played 47 games total in college, and Foster in 2020 who played 7 games total in college.

I don't know if Josh will ever amount to much in his time here. But that 2020 class has given us one superstar, his twin brother that should develop into at least a multi-year starter, and two guys that are at least decent substitutes already as sophomores. And I don't really expect any of the four contributors to transfer out.

Meanwhile ISU's recruiting class only has 1 out of the 4 recruits still at ISU. 2 out of the 7 if you also count the transfers they brought in.
 
I am all for not getting too high not getting too low. The one thing is for whatever you think of McCaffery, he has an eye for talent. I don't think he will ever take a team and win it all, however, he will always have his teams play well, and will have enough talent on the court to put a good product on the floor. Much better than we had in the Lickliter years, and for people to compare any class to the Lickliter's class like in this thread is ridiculous.
 
Our recruiting class is below UMass, Rhode Island, and Fresno State per 247. So that's how good it is
The class with the
Just going by offers this has to be in the level of 2014 or 2015 if not worse, right?

Hopefully I’m wrong
The class with the Murray twins was laughed at too. The ranking don't mean much
 
This guy sure disappeared. Good riddance!

Complete tool.

I really believe he is still here under a different handle. I think I interacted with him after the Nebraska game.

This is where I miss when they used to log your IP address publicly.
 
Complete tool.

I really believe he is still here under a different handle. I think I interacted with him after the Nebraska game.

This is where I miss when they used to log your IP address publicly.
Legend was able to ferret these types out. I suspect that if RaptorDick pops up again under a different handle, Legend will out him.
 
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