How come there are no Democrats on Mt. Rushmore?
- Thread starter HawktimusPrime
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For a guy who is above party politics you sure like party politics.
It would be worth noting that neither of the Republicans who are up there would be welcome in today's GOP.
A case could be made that Jefferson could be considered a Democrat had the party existed at that time.
If it was built recently it would definitely have Bill Clinton and John F Kennedy. Even though a bunch of radical republicans will disagree, history may judge Obama worthy as well.
This is the correct answer. The Republicans used to be a party the country was proud of. Today's GOP is usually the laughing stock of today's political environment. They really are an entertaining bunch.
Nope.
Mount Rushmore is in the Black Hills of South Dakota and that's...well...ummmm...
JFK is a gimme, but are you serious about the Clinton reference? Besides putting more black people in jail for stupid charges, cheating on his wife and getting caught doing it, illegally bombing Iraq, etc.
I'm just not seeing that reasoning here.
Fair point. It's tough to characterize any of the founding fathers completely with either of the political parties as they exist today.
Great economy, generally a good time in America. No major wars started by him, balanced budget. It's easy to find bad stuff on anyone if you try hard enough. Who has been better recently?
So put Reagan on the Mountain also then?
I don't consider Clintons myth of being good as actual fact. I don't consider the same for any of the myth surrounding Reagan to be factual either. They have all sucked since,...maaaayyyybbbeee JFK. The best being Eisenhower to a certain point. He had his faults, but he was courageous enough to shed light on what was going on behind the scenes.
Seriously? Thomas Jefferson ...he and Jackson are "the fathers" of the Democratic Party.
How friggin' stupid are you Hawk? It is hard to communicate intelligently with stupids. Do you think that today's Republicans would claim TR with his anti-monopoly, increase the power of the Federal government and "federalization" of lands policies?
But come on.........third graders understand that Jackson/Jefferson were the founders of today's Democratis Party as ALincoln was the nation's first republican of consequence.
Nice flame.
That's not true at all. Jefferson started the Democratic-Republican Party which eventually became the modern Republican Party.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic-Republican_Party
You got this a little wrong. That party Jefferson founded eventually became the modern D party. The modern R party does not trace its roots back that far despite the similarity of the names.
So, I posted a link that says the opposite of what you're claiming, but you're going to assert an unsupported position anyway?
BAU for the HR
You need to read your link closer. It tells you the party Jefferson founded split into the Democrats and the Whigs in the 1830's. The Democrats are still around and the Whigs did not become the republican party. The Republican party was a competitor with the Whigs which eventually converted many of its anti-slavery members to gain a majority in the North by the 1850's.
And a traitor.Jefferson Davis appears on Stone Mountain. He was a democrat.
You need to read your link closer. It tells you the party Jefferson founded split into the Democrats and the Whigs in the 1830's. The Democrats are still around and the Whigs did not become the republican party. The Republican party was a competitor with the Whigs which eventually converted many of its anti-slavery members to gain a majority in the North by the 1850's.
And if YOU read a little closer, you'll notice that the Jackson faction left the party to start the Democratic party. Jeffersonians remained on the other side, and eventually flocked to the Whig Party. When the Republican party was formed, it was based on "Jefferson's ideals of liberty and equality [combined] with Clay's program of using an active government to modernize the economy
Repeal of Glass-Steagall should get Slick Willie the gas chamber as far as I'm concerned.
Presidents who faced impeachment proceedings don't get their face on a mountain. Sorry.
Davis was a better man than two of the ones depicted on Mt. Rushmore. It is fitting that his carving is bigger and visited by more people each year.
You have a Whig problem. The Republican party formed independently of the Jefferson party. That's just a fact. There is a reason the Ds have a Jefferson/Jackson dinner in Des Moines every year.
No reason to taint what started as a great party with the stink of some old slave holder. Jefferson was the opposite of what the republicans started out as. Jefferson would never want to use an activist government to modernize the economy. The first R party was a party of free soil. Do you know the modern equivalent of that? Its minimum wage and free college. That sounds more like the modern Ds, don't you think?
Joel is not the smartest person in the world. Don't expect him to understand this.
No.
It is indisputable that Jackson's supporters split from the Jeffersonians to start the Democratic Party. You don't get to keep Jefferson in your legacy when you divorced from him.
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Which is why today's Democrat's celebrate their Party's founding with many "Jefferson/Jackson" dinners.....friggin' moron.
The dumbest thing a person can ever do is try to be something they are not.......Democrats should never act like Republicans and Republicans should never think they are Democrats.
