How despicable were Jared Fogle's actions?

[TJ8869]

I'm not going to defend what he did, but in some ways it seems to me he's getting a little more criticism than he deserves. The headlines all blast "Jared Fogle/Child Porn". Unless there is more to the story than what I have heard, he wasn't exactly into kiddie porn. He had a thing for 16 year old girls. That's pretty creepy for a guy his age. But in some states, including his home state of Indiana, that's actually legal.

Where Jared veered into dangerous territory was secretly videotaping the encounters, which is very illegal. He also traveled to states where the age of consent was higher. For example, some of the encounters apparently took place in New York, where the age of consent is 17.

Again, I'm not defending him, but it seems maybe a little unfair that the headlines keep saying "child porn", which implies something far more sinister.

 

[HawkeyeHitman]

He should be shot in the head.

 

[TJ8869]

He should be shot in the head.

Which head?

 

[HawkeyeHitman]

Both

 

[gusto79]

Isn't there a term fort that? Hebaphile maybe.

 

[TJ8869]

Isn't there a term fort that? Hebaphile maybe.

A hebephile is someone who is attracted to girls in the early stages of puberty - roughly 11 to 14 years old. Jared would seem to be more of an ephebophile, which is someone attracted to girls around the age of 15 or 16.

 

[Bob Pelini_]

What's he done that Bill Clinton hasn't done?

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

I'm not going to defend what he did, but in some ways it seems to me he's getting a little more criticism than he deserves. The headlines all blast "Jared Fogle/Child Porn". Unless there is more to the story than what I have heard, he wasn't exactly into kiddie porn. He had a thing for 16 year old girls. That's pretty creepy for a guy his age. But in some states, including his home state of Indiana, that's actually legal.

Where Jared veered into dangerous territory was secretly videotaping the encounters, which is very illegal. He also traveled to states where the age of consent was higher. For example, some of the encounters apparently took place in New York, where the age of consent is 17.

Again, I'm not defending him, but it seems maybe a little unfair that the headlines keep saying "child porn", which implies something far more sinister.

I agree.

 

[icu81222]

Havent read how he met them or got involved with 16 year olds but How can anyone (especially someone in the public eye or prominent) in this day and age actually believe they can get away with banging underage girls unless you already knew them personally and she all but raped you?

 

[hawkeye54545]

A clue he was a creep should have been when he would order a kids meal and tell them to hold the meal.

 

[JWolf74]

What's he done that Bill Clinton hasn't done?

Lost a bunch of weight eating shitty subs. Moran.

 

[ANYCHawk]

It's not as you paint it TJ. A he did receive images from Taylor (paragraph 13 of the plea) so yes he did receive child porn. During discussions with victim 13 he said he'd accept a 16 year old girl but preferred them younger (paragraph 35). So it's not like he was in some relationship where its eww Jerry Lee Lewis style. He wanted a minor to find other minors (16 or younger) that he could have sex with. He also offered to pay for sex which isn't legal in most places and illegal everywhere with minors

 

[ANYCHawk]

What's he done that Bill Clinton hasn't done?

Had child porn, offered to pay to have sex with minors and had sex with minors. But, continue on with the political hackery.

 

[TJ8869]

It's not as you paint it TJ. A he did receive images from Taylor (paragraph 13 of the plea) so yes he did receive child porn. During discussions with victim 13 he said he'd accept a 16 year old girl but preferred them younger (paragraph 35). So it's not like he was in some relationship where its eww Jerry Lee Lewis style. He wanted a minor to find other minors (16 or younger) that he could have sex with. He also offered to pay for sex which isn't legal in most places and illegal everywhere with minors

Again, 16 is perfectly legal in some states, including his home state of Indiana. Obviously paying for sex is illegal and secretly videotaping the encounters is a huge problem.

My point is that there are varying degrees of "child porn", and having sex with 16-year-olds is a far cry from having pics or videos of adolescent children.

 

[gojojo]

The report I read quoted a woman he was involved with stating he preferred girls in middle school. That sick bastard deserves every thing coming to him

 

[ANYCHawk]

Again, 16 is perfectly legal in some states, including his home state of Indiana. Obviously paying for sex is illegal and secretly videotaping the encounters is a huge problem.

My point is that there are varying degrees of "child porn", and having sex with 16-year-olds is a far cry from having pics or videos of adolescent children.

Againm (surprised I have to do this with you) he had child porn. He had images that he shared of kids, 13 and 14 year olds, in sexually explicit positions. That is child porn.

Also he didn't want sex with a 16 year old that was ohhh well she borderline legal in some states. It's not like he's banging some high school junior. He told a minor hey find me some 12 years old, but if not that 16 year will old will do.

 

[LuteHawk]

Jared Fogle is a disgrace to his race.....the human race.

 

[GarryO37]

Again, 16 is perfectly legal in some states, including his home state of Indiana. Obviously paying for sex is illegal and secretly videotaping the encounters is a huge problem.

My point is that there are varying degrees of "child porn", and having sex with 16-year-olds is a far cry from having pics or videos of adolescent children.

I'm pretty sure ANYCHawk's point is that he wanted younger than 16 but couldn't get it. He tried to get as young as he could.

If he was able to get what he wanted, then we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

 

[TJ8869]

Againm (surprised I have to do this with you) he had child porn. He had images that he shared of kids, 13 and 14 year olds, in sexually explicit positions. That is child porn.

Also he didn't want sex with a 16 year old that was ohhh well she borderline legal in some states. It's not like he's banging some high school junior. He told a minor hey find me some 12 years old, but if not that 16 year will old will do.

If he had images of 13 and 14 year olds then that's obviously different from what I was describing. That's a serious problem.

 

[ANYCHawk]

If he had images of 13 and 14 year olds then that's obviously different from what I was describing. That's a serious problem.

 

[joelbc1]

I'm not going to defend what he did, but in some ways it seems to me he's getting a little more criticism than he deserves. The headlines all blast "Jared Fogle/Child Porn". Unless there is more to the story than what I have heard, he wasn't exactly into kiddie porn. He had a thing for 16 year old girls. That's pretty creepy for a guy his age. But in some states, including his home state of Indiana, that's actually legal.

Where Jared veered into dangerous territory was secretly videotaping the encounters, which is very illegal. He also traveled to states where the age of consent was higher. For example, some of the encounters apparently took place in New York, where the age of consent is 17.

Again, I'm not defending him, but it seems maybe a little unfair that the headlines keep saying "child porn", which implies something far more sinister.

Today's news media is about very little other than the headline. I am certainly not condoning his actions......it's just that what is out there is way out of proportion with the deeds. Hellsbells...Jerry Lee married his 15 y/o cousin! Charlie Watts likes them young, too. Don't think either of them did any jail time.

 

[Aegon_Targaryen]

What's he done that Bill Clinton hasn't done?

Jared actually got punished for his sexual deviancy.

 

[ANYCHawk]

Today's news media is about very little other than the headline. I am certainly not condoning his actions......it's just that what is out there is way out of proportion with the deeds. Hellsbells...Jerry Lee married his 15 y/o cousin! Charlie Watts likes them young, too. Don't think either of them did any jail time.

HE....HAD....CHILD....PORN

HE....WANTED/DID....HAVE...SEX...WITH...CHILDREN.

 

[joelbc1]

HE....HAD....CHILD....PORN

HE....WANTED/DID....HAVE...SEX...WITH...CHILDREN.

ofcourse, you are right and I am wrong. Sorry I expressed my opinion. Excuse me now, I am going to piss into the wind.

I think this is a wee bit of overkill. Sex Pred list, monitor him for a few years.......a little therapy MIGHT do him more good than prison...and it would be a helluva lot cheaper for all of us. It's not like he's picking them up off the school yards. There's a lot of everything on "the net" if you look for it.

 

[ParkerHawk]

OP has a thing for 16 year old girls?

 

[ANYCHawk]

ofcourse, you are right and I am wrong. Sorry I expressed my opinion. Excuse me now, I am going to piss into the wind.

I think this is a wee bit of overkill. Sex Pred list, monitor him for a few years.......a little therapy MIGHT do him more good than prison...and it would be a helluva lot cheaper for all of us. It's not like he's picking them up off the school yards. There's a lot of everything on "the net" if you look for it.

Are you serious right now? Really?

He didn't just happen to search for it and find it. He traded with a person child porn. That's not only problem but deserves punishment. And yes he is essentially picking them off school yards. He asked a minor to find other minors for him to screw.

He deserves punishment, not just treatment.

 

[Chuck C]

ofcourse, you are right and I am wrong. Sorry I expressed my opinion. Excuse me now, I am going to piss into the wind.

I think this is a wee bit of overkill. Sex Pred list, monitor him for a few years.......a little therapy MIGHT do him more good than prison...and it would be a helluva lot cheaper for all of us. It's not like he's picking them up off the school yards. There's a lot of everything on "the net" if you look for it.

 

[herk90]

Looks like we have a couple guys on here that are rationalizing sex with little girls. Not surprising.

 

[HawkAttackDial911]

They should just cut his junk off. End of story.

 

[gojojo]

ofcourse, you are right and I am wrong. Sorry I expressed my opinion. Excuse me now, I am going to piss into the wind.

I think this is a wee bit of overkill. Sex Pred list, monitor him for a few years.......a little therapy MIGHT do him more good than prison...and it would be a helluva lot cheaper for all of us. It's not like he's picking them up off the school yards. There's a lot of everything on "the net" if you look for it.

Um, what? He's was trying to have sex with kids. How is that not deserving of hard prison time?

 

[unIowa]

Um, what? He's was trying to have sex with kids. How is that not deserving of hard prison time?

This.

 

[GarryO37]

ofcourse, you are right and I am wrong. Sorry I expressed my opinion. Excuse me now, I am going to piss into the wind.

I think this is a wee bit of overkill. Sex Pred list, monitor him for a few years.......a little therapy MIGHT do him more good than prison...and it would be a helluva lot cheaper for all of us. It's not like he's picking them up off the school yards. There's a lot of everything on "the net" if you look for it.

Wow... You're pro abortion and pro having sex with children.

I always thought there was a line liberals wouldn't cross. I guess I was wrong.

Sounds like this is one step prior to you calling for all of this to be legal.

 

[ilhawkeye]

Hey. I didn't think there was anything wrong with wanting to have sex with kids who are in middle school or early high school.... WHEN I MYSELF WAS IN MIDDLE SCHOOL AND EARLY HIGH SCHOOL!!!!

Hang Jared by his balls

He is a complete sicko

 

[Hoosierhawkeye]

Umm unless I'm mistaken I heard he had a TON of child porn on his computer including secretly recorded videos of kids changing while with his foundation.

Sex with teens isn't all he did.

 

[bladel]

Looks like we have a couple guys on here that are rationalizing sex with little girls. Not surprising.

We've been rationalizing racism, homophobia, and misogyny for years now. Pedophilia was the next logical step for HROT.

 

[mstp1992]

What's he done that Bill Clinton hasn't done?

You really are a special kind of stupid, aren't you?

 

[mstp1992]

Well, I'm sure he's gonna get his foot long on a daily basis.

If I were participating in a "dead pool" game, he'd be one of my choices. I don't think he makes it out of prison.

 

[Hawk in SEC Country]

I'm not going to defend what he did, but in some ways it seems to me he's getting a little more criticism than he deserves. The headlines all blast "Jared Fogle/Child Porn". Unless there is more to the story than what I have heard, he wasn't exactly into kiddie porn. He had a thing for 16 year old girls. That's pretty creepy for a guy his age. But in some states, including his home state of Indiana, that's actually legal.

Where Jared veered into dangerous territory was secretly videotaping the encounters, which is very illegal. He also traveled to states where the age of consent was higher. For example, some of the encounters apparently took place in New York, where the age of consent is 17.

Again, I'm not defending him, but it seems maybe a little unfair that the headlines keep saying "child porn", which implies something far more sinister.

I did production stills for the media firm that shot all the national Subway commercials.
We were talking about Jared and the producer said that when they would bring h into location to shoot an ad spot, that as soon as production wrapped, Jared headed straight for any strip club he could find..... Every single time they shot with him.

Dude is basically a sex addict.

 

[gojojo]

I did production stills for the media firm that shot all the national Subway commercials.
We were talking about Jared and the producer said that when they would bring h into location to shoot an ad spot, that as soon as production wrapped, Jared headed straight for any strip club he could find..... Every single time they shot with him.

Dude is basically a sex addict.

with all the evidence out there and all the witnesses they have against this guy, including a Subway franchisee, I can't believe they didn't catch wind of this earlier and pull the plug on him years ago. It sounds like he didn't hide the fact he wanted to have sex with children from a lot of people.

 

[ANYCHawk]

Dude is basically a sex addict.

i mean who isn't?