How do you feel about the President defying a court order?
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Biden did it with student loans, so I'm good with President Trump doing it.
Sure he did.
But, assuming you're fevered dreams are true, you are saying it's okay for Trump to ignore the orders of a court?
Yes. I'll get upset about it when you get upset that Biden did it and put the American people more in debt.
He should be impeached immediately and any Congressperson who votes against impeachment should also be impeached because they are most definitely NOT "defending the Constitution".
Note for the idiots: "Should" does not mean "will". We all know what will actually happen.
Note for the idiots: "Should" does not mean "will". We all know what will actually happen.
No he didn’t, no matter how many times the usual suspects claim it.
Spell out for us exactly how Biden defied a court order. Go ahead and use big words, I'll look them up.
He should be hung from the nearest light post, along with his VP and South African nazi collaborator.
And for those of you trying to use a "But Biden!", here is how he did not actually defy a court order.
www.newsweek.com
And it should be mentioned that no one actually got their student loans forgiven so, there's that.
Fact Check: Did Biden ignore Supreme Court over student loan forgiveness?
Republican Representative Jim Jordan said Biden had ignored a Supreme Court ruling on student loan forgiveness.
www.newsweek.com
And it should be mentioned that no one actually got their student loans forgiven so, there's that.
Hmmmmm, the USSC said it was unconstitutional for Biden to cancel student debt without the consent of congress. He did it anyway. Is that simple enough for you?
Really? Show me where the court DID NOT say it was unconstitutional.
OK......And for those of you trying to use a "But Biden!", here is how he did not actually defy a court order.
Fact Check: Did Biden ignore Supreme Court over student loan forgiveness?
Republican Representative Jim Jordan said Biden had ignored a Supreme Court ruling on student loan forgiveness.
And it should be mentioned that no one actually got their student loans forgiven so, there's that.
"...The White House has said that the plan would cut many borrowers' monthly payments to zero, saving others around $1,000 per year, estimating that over 20 million Americans could benefit."
"The program has faced two separate legal challenges in Republican-led states, which argue that the president overstepped his authority in implementing his debt relief plans by not acquiring input from Congress.
Last week, federal judges in Kansas and Missouri halted parts of the SAVE plan. In Kansas, U.S. District Judge Daniel Crabtree, ruled in a lawsuit filed by the state attorney general that the Department of Education could not implement parts of the program designed to assist students with larger loans by lowering their monthly payments and reducing their repayment period from 25 years to 20 years.
He permitted parts of the program that allow students who borrowed less than $12,000 to have their remaining loans forgiven after making repayments for 10 years instead of the usual 25 years.
U.S. District Judge John Ross of Missouri ruled that the DoE could not forgive loan balances going forward, but said the federal department could lower monthly payments. He said the DoE "lacks the requisite congressional authority to forgive loans under the SAVE plan."
Sounds like they used a loophole to forgive loans.
Incorrect. Read the article posted by YOU.And for those of you trying to use a "But Biden!", here is how he did not actually defy a court order.
Fact Check: Did Biden ignore Supreme Court over student loan forgiveness?
Republican Representative Jim Jordan said Biden had ignored a Supreme Court ruling on student loan forgiveness.
And it should be mentioned that no one actually got their student loans forgiven so, there's that.
So, didn't defy? They worked along what was allowable after the bulk of the plan was not allowed, is that what you are tying to say?
Hmmm… they ruled his plan to cancel the debt unconstitutional. He then rolled out a quite different plan that did not cancel/forgive debt.
Is that simple enough for you?
He didn't, after his first plan was ruled unconstitutional he adjusted the scope of the plan.
Guys they're saying openly they're lawless fascists.
even saying it's a loophole is a little disingenuous.
a court order was issued regarding that attempt to forgive student loan debt. some things were allowed, some things weren't. the things allowed by the court order were implemented.
not only is that NOT defying a court order...it's explicitly FOLLOWING a court order
Gee, they found a loophole. NOW that's a problem? Republicans better watch out then.
But, he did not defy a court order which is what this thread is about and many people are insisting he did.
I'm against it. They can appeal all the way up if they want, but they cannot defy a court order.
You were the one that made the claim.
Biden didn’t violate a Court Order. If he did, it would be really easy for you to find because the right wing echo chamber would be all over it. You can’t find it because it doesn’t exist.
Courts said Biden couldn’t do what he was doing. One under the Save Act and one under the Heroes Act. He didn’t violate any Court Orders in either case.
I did. You seem to be having issues with comprehension with it though. But read what others have posted.
Biden set precedent for this and was actually being sued by multiple state AGs on student loans which is why he was blocked. In this case you have a rogue activist judge claiming the secretary of the treasury has no right to accessing the treasury arbitrarily. The judge should be removed and probably imprisoned for attempting a sort of coup. Blatantly unconstitutional behavior once again from the far left.
I can't imagine going thru life so objectively stupid.
Thoughts and Prayers dude, thoughts and prayers
